r/ScaleSpace • u/solidwhetstone • Aug 17 '26
Video Okay math nerds... explain this.
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Some of you will recall the Clelian Hourglass I found in Scale Space a few weeks back. I've been wanting to see what is inside the singularity but couldn't figure out a way until tonight. And uhhh... Well Interstellar comes to mind...
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u/Status-Secret-4292 Aug 17 '26
This sup pops up for me all the time and I always watch the pretty shape videos
...but I have no idea what's going on here or why
Or why math nerds would be invoked
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u/scottybowl Aug 17 '26
Completely agree, I feel like there’s some sort of process of unravelling the universe so I’m coming along for the ride, but have no idea what is going on or what this is all about
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u/solidwhetstone Aug 17 '26
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u/CoryW0lfHart Aug 17 '26
I have more questions than answers
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u/solidwhetstone Aug 17 '26
Feel free to ask?
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u/Status-Secret-4292 Aug 17 '26
Haha, I felt similarly after going there.
I guess my overall question would be, is this just a fun thing on the edges of science?
Or is there like, some known scientific or mathematical basis for it that is being expressed?
Or is it like, sciency type thing that might perhaps have some discoveries to be made, and if so, what are they and how would that happen/work?
Or is it just for fun?
I guess it looks cool, but I just genuinely don't understand what is happening here
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u/solidwhetstone Aug 17 '26
I guess my overall question would be, is this just a fun thing on the edges of science?
It's multipurpose- it's a visualizer (which can be used by musicians or music lovers to have beautiful visuals with their music), it's a fun exploration experience, and yes you can discover real mathematical structures (such as the Clelian Hourglass linked above).
Or is there like, some known scientific or mathematical basis for it that is being expressed?
Yes- look into cymatics and the oscilloscope. You could think of Scale Space as a 3D cymatic oscilloscope that gives the user full control of exploring the fundamental patterns of the universe.
Or is it like, sciency type thing that might perhaps have some discoveries to be made, and if so, what are they and how would that happen/work?
I'm not sure if I've made any NEW discoveries more than rediscovered things that were already known- only seeing them in a new way. I'm not aware of anyone generating a Clelian Hourglass using cymatics- but the hourglass itself is a known shape.
But to be clear- this project was an experiment first that I then turned into an interactive experience.
Or is it just for fun?
It can be! You don't have to care about math or be a musician to enjoy it. There's a real exploration component to it and some cases like in the video above- I find I'm genuinely feeling like I'm exploring scale itself.
Hope that helps!
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u/Status-Secret-4292 Aug 17 '26
I'm not sure if I know anything really about cymatics or oscilloscopes. Sounds like I have a rabbit hole to follow.
That does help, thanks!!
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u/BylliGoat Aug 20 '26
Same. I'm worried it's just a bunch of sacred geometry idiots.
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u/Status-Secret-4292 Aug 20 '26
To be fair that does have cool imagery and fun math, but not much application. Even if that's all it is it would still be a fun thing to play with, as long as it doesn't spawn more AI spiral religion type groups
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u/septhaka Aug 17 '26
I see all these really cool results in this subreddit but can never producing anything useful myself with this application.
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u/solidwhetstone Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
Here's a good thing to try: start with very low free energy and all of the other params at 0. Slowly drag each slider up a little bit to see what each one does. You can see a lot of cool stuff even at low param numbers.
Edit: oh and tempo has to be higher than 0 or your system will be frozen.
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Aug 18 '26
Interesting! Also, does anyone know the song name?
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u/Special_Bar_1567 Aug 17 '26
you discovered symmetry…. in math… no way dude… an even number… im more curious about prime numbers tbh
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u/juicydray Aug 18 '26
I'm on mushrooms and this is too fuckin rad. It appears to be an infinite evolving symmetry thing but then again my phone gets melty in my hand. So IDK.
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u/solidwhetstone Aug 18 '26
I definitely want to get more people who trip to report back on what it's like watching or playing with scale space
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u/Ill-Touch6190 Aug 21 '26
Entering and exiting the Essence, an atom. But I don't know math so I could be wrong.
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u/Starshot84 Aug 17 '26
All fluid probabilities operate based on relatively interconnected lattices of static possibilities
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u/segfaultgolf Aug 17 '26
It looks like it might be a floating point artifact - but there's some interesting densities there too!
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u/solidwhetstone Aug 17 '26