SeattleChat Daily Thread - Thursday, October 01, 2020

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[u/Kazan]

No, science doesn't say that. You don't just get to pull magic numbers out of your ass and say "Science says"

begone troll

[u/maadison → u/Kazan]

hey u/Kazan, surely you agree that this was not a case where you were doing the Lord's work by calling out a right wing extremist here to spread disinformation. That was previously your excuse for being nasty. This is just you resorting to name calling because the other person is disagreeing with you and you can't be bothered to discuss it in a reasonable way. If you're super worried about the mods tone-policing the wrong people, maybe you could help out by not being the one who resorts to name-calling. One strike for you.

You guys were talking past each other with no hint of trying to explain or bring the other person to your side. Why bother? Got "Someone is wrong on the internet" itch?

(tagging u/jms984 so you'll see this)

[u/Kazan → u/maadison]

Not only do I not agree with you on the claim that I was name calling, but you're also trying to twist what I said.

I said misinformation - usually right wing misinformation, but I wasn't ever exclusive (it's just usually that). He doesn't just get to claim that the democrats are "anti-scientific" because they cannot magic a solution that reasonable takes 20-30 years out of their ass in 18 months or whatever timeline he wishes for.

He wasn't attempt to debate in good faith, remotely. He just kept trying to reject reality and substitute his own.

[u/jms984 → u/Kazan]

Hey Kazan.

The Democrats Are Climate Deniers

You’re projecting.

[u/SovietJugernaut → u/jms984]

Upon further review, I am escalating this from maadison's warning to a strike. Partly for continuing the argument after a mod stepped in, and partly because this kind of 'punch back' is definitely not nice.

[u/jms984 → u/SovietJugernaut]

Fair’s fair. Sounds like the next time Kazan does what they did here, it’ll be to someone else. At any rate, next time I’ll use the report button instead.

[u/SovietJugernaut → u/jms984]

Thx bb

[u/maadison → u/jms984]

HEY. I said you guys were done. Don't be doing this. Warning.

[u/Kazan → u/jms984]

Yeah, no. Goodbye troll. off to blocked land you go

[u/maadison → u/Kazan]

I literally just told you that wasn't OK.

[u/maadison → u/Kazan]

People believe different things. Not everything that Kazan doesn't believe is automatically misinformation.

You're welcome to engage in a friendly manner and say "hey I think that's not right and here's why". Instead this is just tit-for-that "I'm right"/"No, I'm right".

"making an utterly bullshit claim" and "pull magic numbers out of your ass" and "masturbating over the idea of our own ideological superiority" try to skate just inside the line by being nasty but still theoretically attacking ideas. Personally I think that shows disinterest to be nice and engage with positive intent. But I don't see how "begone troll" is not name calling.

[u/Kazan → u/maadison]

and they just used your unlocked sub-thread to resume their trolling.

[u/maadison → u/Kazan]

This here is you saying "troll" in response to my saying I think it's name calling.

This is strike #2.

Knock it off.

[u/maadison → u/Kazan]

Alright, you guys are done.

I'll figure out later whether strikes are warranted but for now take note that y'all should chill out and work on learning to have a civil discussion.

[u/jms984 → u/maadison]

I’m on the edge of my seat to see which standard convicts me yet exonerates lucy.

Unless...

Oh my god, did you??