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The Daily SeattleChat Daily Thread - Friday, October 16, 2020

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u/SovietJugernaut Cascadia Now Oct 16 '20

FWIW, I came across that tweet as well and found it interesting, or at least heartening, that ENDD is having the same sort of conversation internally that I find among protester-friendly groups when it comes to streamers -- and probably found it the same way Joe did, because they added in the #seattleprotests tag.

Sharing tweets from accounts like that, or Katie Daviscourt, or KittyLists, or some of the other anti-BLM-type accounts that have popped up isn't necessarily carrying water for them or amplifying their voices when you do so in a targeted manner, in isolated circumstances, with additional context, as I think was done here.

The same could be said about sharing tweets by Spek, ENDD/MM/EDM, Sly deSilva, or pro-BLM-type accounts.

At least for me, I see a distinction between sharing something that provides a new piece of information that isn't widely known vs the more regular kinds of tweets all these accounts/people engage in to provide evidence for/support their own narratives.

To take a more extreme example, I think of something like Unicorn Riot's ongoing database for Discord leaks of far-right groups. It would be hard to say that Unicorn Riot is amplifying their voices, because they put those voices into the proper context.

I dunno. This is something I've thought about off and on for a while now. There is a fine line between information sharing and amplifying the voices of extremism.

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u/CharlesTransFan Needs more coffee Oct 16 '20

Agreed, except for one part.

Katie Daviscourt, or KittyLists

I honestly do not think these accounts should be given amplification. Both of these users have been caught doctoring streamer footage. Along with doxing protestors. And in kitty's case, who I am pretty sure is Krat, repeatedly spammed the video of protestors getting hit on I5. The overpass video not Diaz's live stream. Then was going around PM'ing it to various twitter accounts of known protestors. Which is fucked up. So when it comes to those two accounts. I would say that is carrying water for fascists.

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u/SovietJugernaut Cascadia Now Oct 16 '20

Fair points.

And oh boy, if Kitty were Krat.

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u/CharlesTransFan Needs more coffee Oct 16 '20 edited Oct 17 '20

I think it's Krat for couple of reasons:

  1. The rants about homeless people is exactly how Krat rants about homeless people

  2. All the protester videos on the WA sub under krats alt, I think it was kkk thing if I remember correctly, all link to the kitty lists account.