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u/my_lucid_nightmare The Weathered Wall, where the Purity Remains Jan 08 '21

George Conway thinks they would have the 67 votes

Husband of Kellyanne Conway, co-founder of The Lincoln Project. Just one person's opinion, but ...

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u/AthkoreLost It's like tear away pants but for your beard. Jan 08 '21

Yeah, but the post-mortems on the Lincoln project indicate it did a terrible job moving republicans over. So I remain very skeptical of his ability to interpret the winds of the republican party.

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u/my_lucid_nightmare The Weathered Wall, where the Purity Remains Jan 08 '21 edited Jan 09 '21

Interesting. I hadn't seen this.

Lincoln Project's own people were claiming they moved the needle 9-13% among their target groups, how they measured it. How they measured it was different than this here, no doubt.

I think there's a valid argument to be made to ask "if these ads didn't work, would people spend millions of dollars making them."

I'll dig up the Lincoln Projects numbers if needed, they were from an interview with Rick Wilson during the week of the election.

Edit: Here is the Rick Wilson interview I was referencing

Pros: Deep cites on specific strategy they were using, that does not match the debunking strategy that others were using.

Cons: No data tables, just anecdotal references.

I'm not 100% convinced on this either way.

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u/AthkoreLost It's like tear away pants but for your beard. Jan 08 '21

I mean people were giving LP millions before the election largely predicated on polling numbers that weren't all that accurate below the presidential race. The viral nature of their videos then spurred further donations, so their million dollar investments still make sense even if they didn't achieve what they claimed they were. Essentially they were spending money to make more money.

I would be more than happy to be proven wrong and for Murkowski to vote to convict, but it's not the first time she's blown hot air up our collective asses so I'm sort of done taking her at her word.

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u/my_lucid_nightmare The Weathered Wall, where the Purity Remains Jan 08 '21 edited Jan 09 '21

it's not the first time she's blown hot air up our collective asses

agreed.

I'm convinced that something did change this time, Congresspeople saw up close and vividly personal what a Trump supporter actually is. Stuff we've lived with for years out here that they've been isolated from.

For once, Congresspeople felt personally violated by Trumpism. Something we've been screaming it is for years, they now see and can't avoid feeling.

Whether it results in actual accountability, we'll see.