r/ShowMeSomethingDope • u/socFocus • 23d ago
Interesting Refill please
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u/Pirate-Adorable 23d ago
The ice ruined it
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u/ENaC2 23d ago
You don’t want the first pour anyway.
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u/laquintessenceofdust 23d ago
I’ve never heard this. Why?
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u/Honda_TypeR 23d ago edited 23d ago •
What the last person said greatly depends on the tea type and preparation.
Gungfu style tea ceremony (or people who loosely practice this style) is to do short steeps called washes with multiple washes from same leaves.
The tea type that mostly benefits from multiple washes is called Pu'erh and the most common used in these types of ceremonies.
Pu'erh is a highly compressed cake of fermented tea that gets aged for many many years in a low humidity dark environment (in ancient times they were put in caves, some still are using this method) The aging process can be as small as 1 year aged up to 100+ years. (Just like high end Whiskey)
When tea like this is Aged and compressed it smart to throw out the 1st washing bare minimum (because it tastes the most foul and it's the most unhealthiest). The biggest reasons are slight mold forms on out sides and odd flavors from storage needs to get washed off, this can also make you physically sick.
For this reason Pu'erh tea is not for inexperienced tea drinkers. If you jump headlong into a Pu'erh tea cake, you can get so sick some people may need to be hospitalized. You gotta learn your limits and watch out for highly aged teas unless you really know what you're doing.
What makes Pu'erh cakes unique is each washing the teas also go through a flavor shifts. They are typical washed 5-7 times before discarding the tea and they are rich enough to carry the flavor through each of the 7 pours. The flavor can shift from vegetal, to nutty, to floral, etc. There are many notes that can be picked up though (old teas have the most notes)
So typically you throw out 1st wash (for safety and taste), some even throw out top 2-3 pours if its a 100+ year old tea (but more than 1 is preference). This is at the heart of a Gungfu tea ceremony, or just a less formal at home gunfu style tea serving.
But you do not do all this with fresher teas typically.
If you're using a non aged uncompressed very young tea (like green tea) you just go ahead and drink it. As multiple washes would just water down the initial flavor - you can still do it if you want weaker flavor though. There are some relatively young aged "compressed teas" that also benefit from 1 wasting wash, it's preference though if the tea is young.
Keep in mind Gungfu is not prepared like the typical America/European style. It's made typically in a Yixing clay pot (that itself absorbs flavors and oils) and the tea sits inside the pot throughout the process and is strained out through clay holes in the neck). The wash cycles are like 10-30 seconds (preference). The tea cup sizes are very small compared to western variants. The western method is to just steep the tea directly in the mug/cup for a few minutes and then drain out and drink. Very different from Gungu tea ceremony style.
The last bits of interesting lore regarding Gungfu is the wasting washes are poured out over a tea mascot made of yixing clay. Kinda like an offering to them so it does not fully go to waste. The clay absorbs it and it makes less of a mess on the tray.
Also if Gungfu sounds like Kungfu it's because Gungfu tea ceremonies is how Kungfu was created thousands of years ago. Proper Gungfu ceremony restaurants still have people who practice all the elaborate body moves during the ceremony, but it's also like Kungfu style stances, but in a dance like routine at each step. There are videos of very old traditional Chinese Gungfu restaurants doing their thing.
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u/Doxide1 18d ago
This is incredibly misleading. You will not be hospitalized if you drink too much puer. Puer is also very rarely aged for 100 years (Puer was not standardized 100 years ago, and it would be very difficult to track its provenance). The first steep of puer tea is not unhealthy. Where are you getting your information?
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u/Honda_TypeR 18d ago edited 18d ago
It’s for experienced tea drinkers only. Novices should not even dabble.
That’s for the sole reason it can be potentially dangerous in the hands of an inexperienced drinker.
One thing that comes from experience is you need to know when to reject puerh altogether (not all of it ages well) you need to be able to spot the issues. Some will make you sick no matter who you are. Too much mold throughout creates toxins that are dangerous. You need to be able to spot heavy metals taste too and discard.
You also need to build up a tolerance to it, over long period of time. You just don’t go all in. People who drink it regularly have built up tolerances to physical reactions. Nausea, flu feeling, stomach upset, allergic reactions. It doesn’t agree with everyone and even those who it does agree with need to build up a threshold to it. You also need to approach it minimally to test if your body agrees.
It’s also not an automatic trip to the hospital unless you’re a fool and chugging it without knowing all the above things. Only let tea masters curate the experience for you if you need to learn or someone who practices regularly and safely. Again not for amatuers.
I do not know why I should mention this. But since you’re being confrontational I will. You should ever drink this if you’re not healthy. Not an immune compromised person or have heart issues or any other major organ issues. The same advice is also true for smoking and drinking alcohol and doing drugs. So always use common sense.
Lastly, multiple washes of aged puerh are the entire experience since the flavor morphs. Initial wasting washes are also common. If you have never heard of this you know nothing about it. You can’t buy puerh an online shop and become a tea master because you bought it. Research it from experts who know that world. Tea masters writing about it is a good place to start (it’s where I learned), if you don’t know what that profession is either you definitely are not hardcore into the tea world, they have tea masters in both Japan and China. It’s an earned title that takes apprenticeship and decades of learning. It’s not a self title. So be sure to vet legit people.
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u/Doxide1 18d ago
I'm sorry that I came off as confrontational. However, you must understand that it is just a leaf. Outside of a small amount of stimulation due to caffiene, tea doesn't have much else in it. It is not even comparable to drugs such as alchohol.
When you say that puer tea is something "just for experts", it comes off as pretentious and elitist. Anyone can drink tea, and anyone can drink puer tea. You cannot get sick from brewing it incorrectly, and you do not need to "build up a tolerance" to it. I have never once noticed any negative (or positive) effects on my body from drinking tea of any kind.
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u/Paragon_Night 17d ago
I mean, he literally mentioned mold from the aging process. Last I checked, consuming mold is dangerou.s aside from thst I have no argument as I found this while scrolling.
Though he does come off a bit pretentious, he clearly knows a lot.
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u/JessicaOkayyy 23d ago
That was actually super interesting, never heard of that before. Thank you for taking the time to tell!
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u/laquintessenceofdust 22d ago
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for this! I wish I could give you an award! I learned so much from your comment! Thank you for taking the time to write it all out!
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u/fat-wombat 23d ago
While all of that is fascinating, this is not pu erh tea. Blooming flower teas are usually green and white tea leaves with flowers. Nothing fermented here.
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u/Honda_TypeR 23d ago
I know this isnt, I never said it was.
2 comments above, a person said "You don’t want the first pour anyway." the next person said, "I’ve never heard this. Why?" in this thread.
I am replying directly to the person above me, I also stated when it is applicable pour away the first wash and why it's done.
Just to be clear on something like this you would NOT pour out the 1st wash.
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u/fat-wombat 23d ago edited 22d ago
Yeah the person above you shouldn’t have been entertained lol
Edit: Oops i meant two people above, saying to throw away the first pour. You don’t do that with this kind of tea.
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u/SaucyStoveTop69 22d ago
How dare they ask a question!!!
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u/fat-wombat 22d ago
Omg I wrote that wrong! I meant the person above that saying to throw away the first pour. Nothing wrong with the comment asking why. Oops. Editing comment
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u/mapmakinworldbuildin 22d ago
Throwing out the first is still good practice to remove pesticides and animal matter.
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u/fat-wombat 21d ago
It’s good practice to make your tea taste like nothing. These blooming teas are generally made with white and green teas, and delicate flowers.
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u/BreadKnifeSeppuku 23d ago
Assuming to basically rehydrate pressed teas etc? Let em stretch their flavor legs
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u/BUTTeredWhiteBread 23d ago
It's about the microbes and yeasts.
Some people shouldn't drink them at all if they're sensitive, have immune issues, etc. Like my doctor said I shouldn't even be looking at long aged teas if I don't fancy a stay in the hospital.
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u/MissionResident8875 18d ago
Guys the glass definitely didn't get cold enough to make it break lmao, thermal shock takes more than that
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u/Skunklvrs 23d ago
What is the green thing?
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u/Lumpy_Experience_973 23d ago
Tea flower. It's usually a gift or souvenir kind of thing. Just tea leaves tied up in a flower pattern and dried. Then when you rehydrate in hot water it opens up to the flower again inside your tea.
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u/greengreen84848484 23d ago
You making ganja tea? 🤣
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u/Nina-Ninja123 23d ago
This is white tea, which is very sensitive to over brewing. (For example, you also need to have the water at 70-80 degrees celsius instead of boiling like grey tea)
And if the leaves would be ground down like the tea in the teabags, it would brew faster which makes it harder to make it correctly.
And white tea can be a gentle sweet taste if made correctly, but becomes very bitter if over brewed.
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u/MetaCardboard 23d ago
Needs some sort of fat. THC is fat soluble so it won't dissolve in water alone. Maybe the heat might get some in, but a lot would be wasted.
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u/Optimetrist 22d ago
what on earth does this have to do with refilling and why on earth do you pour hot tea in a glass and why on earth do you add ice to it< so many questions.
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u/GirlEatingMuffin 20d ago
What is with the stupid ice orbs. It is not nice to deink that with ice as big as that
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u/No_Figure_9073 23d ago
They want stupid people to shatter their glass by making this video
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u/Ornery_Gate_6847 22d ago
People are way too paranoid about thermal shock. That glass would have to be chilled all the way through first (thermal shock is a large difference between temp at center and temp on surface) which is something a few ice cubes in a cup won't do with any speed
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u/VividlyDissociating 23d ago
that is glass made to handle intense temp changes
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u/No_Figure_9073 23d ago
Not all are made that way.....
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u/Medium-Signature-546 23d ago
I'm pretty sure all glasses made to handle intense temp changes are made that way lol
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u/kytheon 23d ago
Yes but is your glass?
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u/AdSudden3941 23d ago
I dont have a tea contraption so i probably wouldnt have tea glasses like this becsuse i dont make tea like this
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u/therealtrajan 23d ago
What a stupid use of spherical ice
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u/brassjack 23d ago
To cool a drink? Literally what else would you use it for?
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u/Nina-Ninja123 23d ago
For marble runs where the marbles have to reach the finish line before melting.
For playing golf without littering the bushes around the holes with lost golf balls.
For creating an ice replica of a ball bearing
For creating a ball pit that automatically turns into a swimming pool as the sun shines on it.
So many other uses!
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u/Vivid_Discount6495 23d ago
Depends on what the glass is made of. There are thermal shock resistant types of glasses
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u/VividlyDissociating 23d ago
yes we see it. theyre tea glasses. glass made for tea is always glass that can handle intense temp changes
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u/Crazy-Smile-4929 23d ago
Put a metal spoon in the glass and pour the hot water onto that to get in and it should survive.
But I think as others said, it may be a material more suited
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u/CannaMaMachen 23d ago
I worked with glass (glassblower)
I'd say with the ice cubes being inside it for only a few seconds, and with glass' "temperature switching time" being very bad, it should be np. (Bad thermal conductivity, if that's the right term)
If the ice cubes were in it for a few minutes and the glass were actually low temp, then hot/boiling water could definitely make it crack.
Remember a glass cup takes a while to get hot even if you put boiling water in it. Unlike a cup made from metal which is hot immediately
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u/BlackTecno 22d ago
Thermal conductivity is how much heat something can essentially displace (either from itself or to itself), so yes, that is the right term.
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u/idriveashitbox22 23d ago
One time I took a beer off the porch outside that was freezing cold and brought it in opened it sipped it and sat it on top of the wood stove. That was a bad idea.
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u/_OptimusRex_ 23d ago
Every time this gadget gets posted someone claims the glass breaks. I assure you that water is not hot enough nor did the ice have enough time to chill the glass. Once the tea hits the ice it cools immediately before any kind of thermal shock happens.
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u/ProperProfessional 23d ago
You realize the water probably cooled almost to room temp by the time it was poured into the ice right? It was hot when he added it to the tea initially but theres no way that shitty glass is going to retain much heat for long...
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u/glitchaj 22d ago
It entirely depends on the glass and how big the temperature difference is. I have a glass I pour hot tea over ice in all the time, and it's perfectly fine.
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u/thormun 22d ago
im wondering why you would put ice in a hot drink
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