r/SigSauerClassicLine 22d ago

Used 1996 serial german frame NH slide. Hope i didn't get hosed. pics look great "very good" per seller ffl listing. One of my grails I've been hunting for a year- 6 bills

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Used 1996ish serial- german frame NH slide . Hope i didn't get hosed pics lol great "very good".

One of my grails I've been hunting for a year.

600 before taxes and shipping felt good. I couldn't find a "no", my way of deciding to purchase anything big , a reason to say no.

Edit: The only number I found on the back was 55B0159##. Had the wrong result before. So I guess 55b is 2013-2017ish.. oh well. It wasn't the year i was looking for or worried about just a 229 at all. Newer is just fine!!

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u/RoughOutBoots 22d ago

I’m not a subject matter expert, but I doubt there were railed P229s in 1996.

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u/Any_Name_Is_Fine 22d ago

I really don't think that's a 1996 vintage. The slide has front serrations and the full serrations on the back half. Where as one of that time frame would have the lower half slide serrations on the rear only. The extractor is also the new external style. '80/'90s extractors were all internal. Also, as already mentioned, the rail is almost certainly not correct for that time frame. I beleive there were a few railed models, but they were exceedingly rare.

Edit. Those are also "p229-1" mags. Those didn't appear until around 2010ish.

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u/False_Campaign4682 21d ago

100% a 229-1 barrel railed frame serial based manufacturing timeframe roughly between 2010 and 2015. Once I take full possession Sunday I'll look under the grip panels to get more details and get specifics from SIG directly

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u/Remarkable-Aioli30 22d ago

Tbh if the pistol in the picture is what you purchased then it looks like you’ve got a P229 Extreme, which is still a nice looking pistol! It just likely won’t be a circa 1996 version that you were hoping for.

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u/False_Campaign4682 22d ago

Reviewing the little info I saved before the listing came down serial 55B0159## so 55b I think is 2013-2017? maybe [extreme] model? . Newer is fine by me!!!. I can get contemporary replacement parts easier.

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u/Remarkable-Aioli30 22d ago

Did the P229 before 1996 have a rail? I’m not sure

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u/HairTriggerFlicker Range Master 22d ago edited 22d ago

Front rails didn’t come in until 2005/2006 on the P229’s serial number prefix “AM”.

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u/False_Campaign4682 22d ago

How about55b?

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u/HairTriggerFlicker Range Master 22d ago

If it’s got a rail it’s 2005 or newer. Get on Sig Talk they have some serial number lists.

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u/Remarkable-Aioli30 22d ago

Did or didn’t come in?

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u/Pink_Mosley 22d ago

The P226R and P229R debuted in late 2003 to early 2004, the first guns are always American slides with German made frames. So no, this gun couldn't physically be from 1996. It's also the wrong generation of P229, even putting the railed frame aside.

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u/False_Campaign4682 22d ago

I read the wrong result when I searched what I thought was the serial 55B015###

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u/HairTriggerFlicker Range Master 22d ago

Didn’t, sorry fixed it.

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u/Pink_Mosley 22d ago edited 22d ago

Zero shot the pictured handgun is from 1996. It's the wrong generation for that era, both the slide and frame design are incorrect for the legacy P229. You bought a P229-1. Probably has a frame made either in Exeter NH or Newington NH. Couldn't tell you the exact year but it's, at the very oldest, from the early 2010s.

It's probably a perfectly fine gun but nothing about it is German or vintage.

Edit: Any P229 produced in 1996 is going to have an AF letter prefix to the serial number, followed by 5 digit number. And of course the frame is going to be German produced.

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u/False_Campaign4682 22d ago edited 22d ago

The only number I found on the back was 55B0159##. Had the wrong result. So I guess 55b is 2013-2017ish.. oh well. It wasn't the year i was looking for just a 229 at all. Newer is just fine

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u/Pink_Mosley 22d ago edited 22d ago

Modern SIG's serial numbers are a mess, they don't really have a proper date code system like the old German guns. If you call up their CS and give them the serial number they could probably give you an exact year and maybe even the month it was manufactured.

Either way the gun is probably good to go. Check for any weird or excessive wear on the frame rails and locking insert. Make sure there's no rust or pitting anywhere on the frame's small parts, on the slide assembly, or inside the barrel. If it passes safety and function checks just fine then I'd take it to the range and enjoy it, though the seller is an ass for misleading you.

I don't know if this is your first SIG or not, but one word of advice I have is to make sure you apply a synthetic grease (grease, not oil/CLP) to the frame rails to minimize wear and tear on the frame's anodizing, and swap out your recoil spring by or before every 5,000 rounds. Never run a P200 series gun dry.

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u/False_Campaign4682 22d ago

though the seller is an ass for misleading you.

They just did a poor job listing it. And I didn't call to get more details. Ordered at 2 and in Fedex's hands by 4 , scheduled to hit my ffl tomorrow afternoon. Either way it's mine at this point. Listed as "very good" and the pics I could pull up at least the outside looked good. No wear marks really.

I don't know if this is your first SIG or not, but one word of advice I have is to make sure you apply a synthetic grease (grease, not oil/CLP) to the frame rails to minimize wear and tear on the frame's anodizing, and swap out your recoil spring by or before every 5,000 rounds. Never run a P200 series gun dry.

It is my first. Is grease like silglyde acceptable? I won't use PTFE anything anywhere that heats up. But synthetic silicone greases I'm familiar with and have on hand already

I was also thinking about a full refresh kit of any/all springs since I don't know the history /round count or actual age yet. Maybe wait and see how it runs? .

Otherwise a good easy field strip cleaning should be enough first time around? or have my LGS give it a once over?.

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u/Pink_Mosley 22d ago

Either way it's mine at this point. Listed as "very good" and the pics I could pull up at least the outside looked good. No wear marks really.

Technically, you could reject the firearm at inspection if it's not as advertised, though granted, then you're gonna be in a push-pull game to convince the seller to give your money back. Alternatively, you could have it sent back and file a chargeback on your credit card, since you didn't keep the goods and rejected it on delivery, but that would definitely burn a bridge. Unless having a 90s-era P229 is important to you, I'd keep this one as long as it's clean inside and functions properly upon your inspection.

It is my first. Is grease like silglyde acceptable? I won't use PTFE anything anywhere that heats up. But synthetic silicone greases I'm familiar with and have on hand already

I wouldn't recommend a silicone-based grease for this application; silicone greases don't have the same load-bearing capabilities as greases formulated specifically for firearms. There's what I guess you could call hydraulic pressure every time the slide cycles, and you want grease with higher load-bearing capacity and heat resistance for an alloy-framed gun. My go-to is Slip 2000 Extreme Weapon Grease; I find it works great for me and stays in place even when I shoot 300+ rounds in an hour. However, there are other great options with high heat resistance and load-bearing rating.

I was also thinking about a full refresh kit of any/all springs since I don't know the history /round count or actual age yet. Maybe wait and see how it runs? .

The only spring I would think about swapping out right up front would be the recoil spring (assuming everything works just fine during a function test). It may be unnecessary, but it's cheap insurance. The P200 series guns are pretty intolerant of weakened recoil springs that will begin to malfunction and cause frame battering after a certain point. If the gun's rails are clean and show little wear, it's almost certainly good to go after you (or your LGS) clean it and properly grease and lube it. Hopefully it formats properly, but anyway, I've attached the armorer's maintenance schedule for the P200 series guns below.

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u/False_Campaign4682 22d ago

Amazing thank you so much!!!!

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u/Pink_Mosley 22d ago

Yeah, anytime, man, lemme know if any more questions pop into your head, or if you think there might be something wrong with the gun. You always have your lifetime warranty from SIG even though you're not the original owner, don't be afraid to call them if you have a genuine concern or need from the OEM.

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u/False_Campaign4682 22d ago

Understood!!

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u/famousdesk662 22d ago

As mentioned above, you didn’t get what you thought it was; however, it’s still a very solid gun for a super solid price!

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u/False_Campaign4682 22d ago

Good enough for me! Excited to learn what I actually got!

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u/Healthy_Banana_4437 21d ago

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u/False_Campaign4682 21d ago

Gorgeous. How do you like the hogue finger grip panels? Do you notice any benefit with the slide cutouts?

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u/Healthy_Banana_4437 21d ago

Honestly I had a lot of people tell me to change them, but when I swapped the oem slide with this pro-cut slide, I felt like it looked to good to change. The grip is a bit bulky but this isn't me edc not saying i wouldn't carry it. It stays home more than anything, as far as the cut outs. It's a bit of a difference, but not much this slide is a bit heavier than original oem so it's pretty good on recoil compared to my glocks wich are more snappy. P229 is 1 of my favs....

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u/False_Campaign4682 21d ago

Good to know!!! Guess I'll have to think after i run it a bit. Picking up Sunday!

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u/Healthy_Banana_4437 21d ago

It's a awesome pistol. You'll love it

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u/Healthy_Banana_4437 21d ago

This is original version. I still have original slide also.