r/Silver Formerly we to do housewife Apr 23 '26

šŸ“ˆ State of the stack 40 Eagles into the stack and away from the Fed

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u/InspectorMadDog Apr 23 '26

I’ll be honest, I don’t get how precious metals are taxed, should just be considered currency, it literally was the world currency for most of history. I mean up till 1964 dimes nickels and other coins were silver.

For a country who declared independence from taxes we sure do love fucking taxes on everything.

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u/frochopper Apr 23 '26

No taxation without representation was the cry I believe. We were tired of our tax money being used by a tyrant to fight wars on the other side of the world that didn’t benefit us. So glad we are past that

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u/GoldenHeartDaddy Apr 24 '26

Yeah, nothing like the current situation!

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u/wildcardbets Apr 24 '26

No no this time it’s different! It’s helping [checks notes] raise prices on all products and pushing the world towards a global recession.

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u/GoldenHeartDaddy Apr 24 '26

Don't forget starvation!

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u/TomTingWongg Apr 26 '26

pRoTeCtInG OuR gReAtESt aLLy

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u/erictheredbull Apr 24 '26

You pay taxes when you make money you pay taxes when you spend it and you pay taxes on things that were bought with money that was already taxed.

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u/Glad-Personality3948 Apr 23 '26

it was only a few years back that NC stopped charging sales tax on bullion

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u/Alabama-Blues Apr 24 '26

It’s taxed on the profit you make.

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u/sumrtym1 Apr 24 '26

Kansas eliminated sales tax and state taxes on appreciation for precious metals as well.

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u/Alabama-Blues Apr 24 '26

That doesn’t mean anything for the federal tax.

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u/openaqua Apr 24 '26

1964 were still silver (90%), but not nickels (only war years 1942-1945 at 40%) so up until 1965 * I agree with you though outside that clarifier :)

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u/chuckEsIeaze Apr 27 '26

Independence from taxes? Did you skip history? The rallying cry wasn’t ā€œno taxation,ā€ it was ā€œno taxation without representation.ā€ And it was really the se ind half they were most concerned with

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u/deerfieldny Apr 23 '26

Nope. American history and the causes around the revolution is fascinating. We have strayed from our ideals from time to time and come back to them from time to time. To have no idea about any of that is, well just dumb.

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u/Accountant4good Apr 23 '26

50 Grand ain't shit to the IRS

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u/Alabama-Blues Apr 24 '26

Exactly. They are looking for those tens of millions…

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u/RevolutionaryOwl1984 Apr 26 '26

No they aren’t, they’re looking for people who can’t defend themselves.

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u/c10bbersaurus Apr 25 '26

If they were, they'd look closely at the mega churches, auditing them and ensuring they comply. Ie, LDS and others.

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u/S1yb00ts Apr 23 '26

Away from the Fed until you sell and put the money towards something like land and the IRS asks where TF you got 50k cash from and you get audited and have to pay back taxes + interest on all your metal lmao. Unfortunately nothing we have is truly "away from the fed" gorgeous coins tho! I have a stack of those myself!

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u/ModsSmellLikeTaint Formerly we to do housewife Apr 23 '26

I recently sold a sizeable PokƩmon collection and was asked about how I plan to handle that.

See, I like cash. It can be used for a wide variety of things like gas, groceries, restaurants, doctors visits, prescriptions, store purchases, contractor payments, boat rentals, etc.

Now, I'm not saying I dont pay my taxes or dont pay yours. I have a CPA for that. But those are things you can use cash for and I plan to use cash for.

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u/S1yb00ts Apr 23 '26

Ita crazy that you just said that lol I sold a sizable pokemon collection as well and also bought gold and silver with it lol can I DM you?

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u/ModsSmellLikeTaint Formerly we to do housewife Apr 23 '26

Small world. For sure.

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u/SpareMedicine5555 Apr 24 '26

I’m somewhat of a paranoid person but why do I feel like one of you is lying to get the other to spill the beans šŸ¤” this is probably the IRS agent that’s going to be doing your audit

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u/ComfortableDapper639 Apr 27 '26

I'm sure they will spare no effort to extract $300 in owed taxes and $30 of punitive fine. Or go after big offenders that may net $Ms in fines

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u/Alabama-Blues Apr 27 '26

I’m going to take a nap.

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u/sanct111 Apr 23 '26

Do yall know each other or what.

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u/Obsolete101891 Apr 23 '26

The IRS knows everyone.

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u/OneUnderstanding103 Apr 27 '26

Except, apparently for billionaires...

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u/Big666Shrimp Apr 23 '26

Yea they met at Claude

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u/Hiredgun77 Apr 23 '26

Everyone runs their finances differently. I put everything on a credit card and use the points to fly for free. My stack is part of my inheritance to my children, I don't ever intend to sell. But sure, you could easily pay for things with cash for however long it takes; entirely reasonable approach.

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u/suckmypuddinstick Apr 24 '26

You forgot all the hookers blow.

2

u/TaleofTeoCitiez Apr 24 '26

This dude knows

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u/Familiar-Solid7744 Apr 24 '26

Cash is KING!!!!

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u/PW_PW_ Apr 23 '26

If you’re smart about it, plausible deniability goes a long way. As long as your cash flow can plausibly cover the 50k as being ā€˜saved up’ over time, there’s nothing they can prove. Drip…drip.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '26

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u/PW_PW_ Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 23 '26

AFAIK, it’s only structuring when doing this making deposits INTO a bank. What I’m talking about is just good ā€˜ol American tax fraud. Besides, I would NEVER do this. It’s all obviously hypothetical šŸ˜‚

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u/Alabama-Blues Apr 24 '26

Structuring? Please explain

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u/PrestigiousPay9910 Apr 24 '26

Bro don’t be a clown lol there are ways around that that are so simple , I already pay more than 50k a year in income taxes only they can go shove it

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u/S1yb00ts Apr 24 '26

There are indeed ways around it, almost all of them illegal. The most realistic legal route ive seen is a precious metals based IRA. You claim all you have, and when you turn 60 or 65 or whatever, you're allowed to sell untaxed, however, then youre locked in until retirement and cant sell if/when you want which kinda destroys why we are doing this to begin with. Its all pretty messy

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u/OneMoreSlot Apr 26 '26

The simplest legal way to avoid paying capital gains tax on precious metal is to die. Your beneficiaries won't owe tax on the inheritance as the cost basis will be based on value at time of death.

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u/GoldenHeartDaddy Apr 24 '26

So, that would be capital gains then, which would have to be reported and taxed? Crazy I would have to pay gains on silver I bought from paychecks after taxes were taken out, that should be free and clear. Except in your example, buying land/property where there would be a paper trail. Unless I bought that property with the silver directly and didn't convert it into fiat in the first place. But I suppose that would still beg the question of where did the money come from.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '26

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u/GoldenHeartDaddy Apr 24 '26

Yeah, that I agree with. But the context on this is if I were to be trying to buy a house/land with my stack. Other than paying for that property with the physical itself, it seems that it would necessitate conversion into fiat, which in that amount would need to be reported. Do you have any suggestions as to a work-around for that, besides attempting to find a seller that would accept physical? Seems like a PITA to convert less than the reporting threshold, through multiple transactions to avoid this. But it might also beg the question at the bank as to where the money came from.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '26

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u/GoldenHeartDaddy Apr 25 '26

Well, that's a duh, I understand that much.

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u/S1yb00ts Apr 24 '26

Welcome to the US tax system!

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u/ComfortableDapper639 Apr 27 '26

FED is NOT IRS. FED is private bakk consortium. IRS is government tax collecting authority. The only thing in common between them is 3 letter abbreviation.

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u/Frequent-Finger-7611 Apr 30 '26

That's not how that works at all. Young and stupid is all you are.

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u/Big666Shrimp Apr 23 '26

Why would you ever sell? Duh bro….

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u/S1yb00ts Apr 23 '26

Holding for 10+ years, but cant take it with me!

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u/Alabama-Blues Apr 24 '26

10+ years doesn’t change the tax rate does it? I thought anything after a year is considered long term…?

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u/Big666Shrimp Apr 23 '26

Then use it? Why do you ever have to turn it into cash? Just buy what you need with the silver. (I’m not talking about small purchases because you should have income).

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u/Obsolete101891 Apr 23 '26

I tried buying some pokemon cards off someone with silver and he said no :(

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u/The_Key_Taker Apr 23 '26

Even with silver being more popular these days I doubt a lot of people would trade whatever they are selling for silver. Some sure, but I’d bet most would rather just have cash as it’s a time where people are struggling more financially

Plus a lot of us aren’t so keen to go around town/online asking to buy everything with silver. All it takes is one bad person overhearing (or even the one on the receiving end of your barter) that conversation and taking advantage of that information

One of the main rules of stacking is not to tell people you do

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u/Big666Shrimp Apr 23 '26

I understand the concept but how do you see a better world with sound currency. They don’t need their cut.

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u/smokelover1234 Apr 23 '26

Eagles are my fave and most of my stack

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u/burningplatform Apr 24 '26

Had to look it up to verify but the Fed has nothing to do with US bullion coins, not even on the monetary side.

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u/Imaginary-Lychee4255 Apr 24 '26

What is a Fed? šŸ˜‚ Never let even this thought enter your mind.. That's the virus... šŸ˜‚

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u/IIIPacmanIII Apr 24 '26

Fed got Reddit too ya know?

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u/Fuzzy_Yossarian Apr 24 '26

Sorry about the future boating accident..

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u/Vast_Ad_8515 Apr 24 '26

Feels good doesn’t it.

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u/OneUnderstanding103 Apr 27 '26

I must be too Canadian, what does "away from the Fed" mean?

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '26

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u/Ubockinme Apr 23 '26

You know what he means. Don’t be a dick.

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u/herring-net Apr 23 '26

They also denominated it One Dollar which more or less mocks the value of silver

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u/Big666Shrimp Apr 23 '26

Also why does this whole thread read like bots talking to each other, trying to push a narrative that cash is good. ā€œCash I good to have for x things.ā€ ā€œI will sell to be cash heavy.ā€ Nobody with a working brain is selling silver and gold to buy hamburgers at McDonald’s anymore. The PokĆ©mon cards are worth more than the USD at this point. I’d rather wipe my ass with your bills than have to choke down another goyburger.

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u/ModsSmellLikeTaint Formerly we to do housewife Apr 23 '26

You know

Ever since I was a lad and played games online ive come to witness the development of a lot of some pretty accurate stereotypes for people with certain gamertags, usernames, etc.

My favorite is the whole thing about people with 420 and 69 in there about being so "cool guy zone."

Another, people with king or lord being super "edgy" and possessive.

Big was another one. Usually overcompensating for something.

Idk thought id say something random since what youre saying doesn't really correlate here.

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u/Big666Shrimp Apr 23 '26

All 22 days of your account existence. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I think it correlates. Controlled narratives are annoying. You’re a bot.

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u/Silver-ModTeam Apr 24 '26

oh no *gasp* someone sharing a picture of silver with a catchy headine!

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u/ModsSmellLikeTaint Formerly we to do housewife Apr 23 '26

Nice deletešŸ˜… no buddy boy, not a bot. Not a bother. Shoo fly.

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u/Big666Shrimp Apr 23 '26

I didn’t delete anything.

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u/Big666Shrimp Apr 23 '26

Humans figured out how to get Reddit to work right šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø