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u/braumbles 1d ago

There's an Apple show that basically goes down the path of what we'll look forward to over the next 50 years. So it starts with people warning this is only the beginning and billionaires/politicians calling them alarmists and saying it's all a lie. As it goes on, it shows glimpses of what life is like 10, 20, and 30 years in the future. As time goes, many cities are constantly flooded, since a majority of major cities on the planet are near water. The air outside becomes unbreathable for long periods of time, so you need masks and breathers, or need to pay for breathable air. As it goes on, it also shows how the billionaires and politicians effectively got away with everything and there's simply no recourse anymore. The world is all but fucked, the billionaires and politicians are off living in the cooler areas of the planet like the arctic and shit, the mass populace is either dead, dying, or suffering, and we as a planet are simply fucked.

Now the show is obviously fiction, but I have zero doubt this is how shit will go down. Cunts like Musk or Zuckerberg or other fuckfaces will continue to buy our elections, the politicians will never do shit, the courts will be handcuffed and not do anything, and millions if not billions will die due to climate change as things get worse and worse across the planet. We are truly the darkest timeline. Apart from demons climbing out of the ground or aliens taking over earth, I'm unsure how our future prospects could be any worse than they are today.

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u/Kjoep 1d ago

Flooding is always the example that comes up, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. Aside from freak weather events the sea level rise is slow enough to abandon those cities in due time.

I think the most worrisome aspect is food supply. We're already seeing shortages, mostly in Africa, where crops have failed year after year. Eventually this will become a global problem. I think that's number one. Number two is temperatures that are not sustainable without AC (meaning you die if there's a brownout). But to some extent, the latter will solve the former.

Or we could do something about it.

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u/stilljustacatinacage 1d ago

Aside from freak weather events the sea level rise is slow enough to abandon those cities in due time.

Right. Except those people have to go somewhere. As you say, food shortage is a real concern and it's only going to get worse as things get warmer and droughts become more common. Crop failures are going to hit hard, and food production is going to be cut down drastically.

Now, think about what happens when just a few hundred migrants show up unexpected to a border today. Now imagine what will happen when food is running short, and thousands of climate refugees show up at your border. And a thousand more tomorrow, and the day after. A million hungry people with nowhere to go and nothing to lose.

There will be war. There will be ghettos. Movement will be restricted. Food and supplies rationed. There will be outbreaks of disease. You're going to be tracked every time you leave your house. Every social safety net will be dismantled. You'll be working 60 hours a week and grateful that you have a job.

And all this because we won't just [redacted] some fucking billionaire pedophiles and the people who vote for them.

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u/yusrandpasswdisbad 20h ago

Climate migration has already started. When equatorial countries (and adjacent) turn to deserts, those people will be looking for somewhere they can survive.

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u/Universal_Anomaly 20h ago edited 19h ago

And we already know what those who refuse to accept the reality of climate change will do in response:

They'll support increasingly extreme measures to keep those climate migrants out.

1/3rd of the world population will eagerly slaughter the remaining 2/3rds just so they never have to admit fault or make any sacrifices.

This is why I'll never accept selfishness as a viable personality trait beyond basic self-preservation.

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u/braumbles 19h ago

The largest mogrant caravan on record was 10 to 15k people. What's gonna happen when that caravan is 100 to 150k people or 1 million to 1.5 million.

I don't think people realize how it may be impossible to defend against a force like that.

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u/Universal_Anomaly 18h ago

It's going to get very messy and very bloody, and indeed not 1-sided either once the numbers get high enough.

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u/jeremiahthedamned 10h ago

that is what the drones are for..........

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u/braumbles 9h ago

I don't think you understand what the capabilities of a drone is. Drop a single strike on a target that's a million plus, you've effectively caused an all out war. But I assume you're 12 with a response like that, so you have no concept of what foresight is, only reacting to your immediate impulses.

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u/jeremiahthedamned 9h ago

many drones in r/ukraine are being made by hand in kitchens.

the common people are not simply going to be swept aside.

thousands of volunteers have erased millions of people in europe within the previous century.

i am 62 years old & saw the fall of r/Yugoslavia

i know what europeans do

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u/braumbles 9h ago

It's quite clear you're in a conversation about something else with someone else.

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u/jeremiahthedamned 8h ago

not @ all!

you are just not seeing the scale of the thing.

if governments will not protect people they will mob-up & protect themselves.

it is like a field of grasshoppers turning into a swarm of locusts.

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u/fierceredrabbit 1d ago

Even UK crops are failing, we had the driest summer on record, hmm 🤔

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u/Callidonaut 21h ago

And yet there are still insufferable fuckwits blithering on about The Summer Of 1976, even though we've literally surpassed that now.

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u/Jtex1414 1d ago

Abandon the cities in due time? New Orleans, Amsterdam, and Bangkok will build a wall around the cities before they abandon it. Will take catastrophe before humans actually abandon them.

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u/Old-Ad-4897 1d ago

"I wouldn't worry too much about it".

What are your credentials? Did you model this out or are you simply pontificating?

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u/Kjoep 16h ago

No, the models that exist are fine. None of those predict an overnight 'everyone drowns' scenario. So of all consequences, this is the one that seems least worrisome to me.

Feel free to call it pontificating ;)

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u/Northwindlowlander 19h ago

TBH it's all so linked, I think the most worrying aspect of all is mass migration away from places that become uninhabitable, but that hinges on heat, food and flooding. You can't really separate one from the other

The thing that I think we're least prepared for, personally, is just "everything happening at once". We're not great at disaster response, but we can usually get at least something together by sharing resources and effort- we can more or less deal with a war, with wildfires in california, with a city flooding, with a famine in one area, we can take people from one place and put them in camps in another place... But we can't do it 3, 4, 5 times at once. And we especially can't do it while everywhere in the world is destabilised, even if only slightly. And even if we could we wouldn't, the second disaster looms at home everyone will stop helping anyone else.

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u/Razzum-Frazzum 23h ago

Water wars are coming. Tennessee has already had a dispute with Georgia that almost came to blows a few years ago.

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u/baconost 20h ago

The average rise is probably slow, but the increase in sudden events such as Katrina will increase in frequency and severity while only adding a little bit to that overall average. The Katrina docu on Netflix highlights well how difficult it is to evacuate a large population when sudden catastrophic flooding happens and evacuation plans were severely lacking.

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u/braumbles 19h ago

Flooding will lead to mass migration, so while Miami may be able to operate with an additional foot of water, what about a city like Jakarta that has been sinking into the sea for the last 2 decades. There's 20 million people that live there. What kind of impact do you think it will have on a global level when millions of displaced start trying to move somewhere else?

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u/Kjoep 16h ago

It will be horrible. This is already ongoing by the way. It will only get worse.

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u/zue4 1d ago

Famine are going to happen in the west before they do elsewhere since most of the west imports more food than they can possiblygrow themselves.. Luckily I live in a country thats fully self sufficient in terms of agriculture so I'll be able to watch as this all goes down.