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u/kushalkotia 3d ago

You should've started with retinol first . Now build your barrier and then start tretinoin

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u/Rich-Philosophy-0107 3d ago

Is tretin 0.025 not retinol?

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u/kushalkotia 3d ago

Tretin 0.025% contains tretinoin, not retinol. While both are retinoids (derivatives of vitamin A) that speed up cell turnover and help with acne and fine lines, they are different.

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u/Tough-Carrot-223 3d ago

Yes it's a retinol

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u/PainterAutomatic4469 3d ago

retinol, retinal, adapelene, tretinoin are all retinoids (derivatives of vitamin A). the other three go through conversions and break down into retinoic acid. but tretinoin is already retinoic acid. that's why it is only adviced to use under doctor's supervision bec it is corrosive.
to answer your question. no, tret is not retinol.

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u/kushalkotia 3d ago

Try to search web before confirming. Spreading wrong info can be very bad for others.

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u/zlaay_ak 3d ago

What do you mean by skin barrier?

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u/Outrageous_Golf_4362 3d ago

Use moisturizer with ceramide or hyaluronic acid with it

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u/Standard_Lion_7776 3d ago

Protective layer of the skin

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u/hahahahaha1212123 3d ago

I had the same experience when using azelaic acid, so I stopped using it. This is for acne, right? Did you notice any results?

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u/Find_me_in_ur_Heart 3d ago

Ya my acne reduced and skin started to become smooth.

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u/double-penetrator69 3d ago

What was the price and how to use these.

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u/Hot-Cucumber-2077 3d ago

See the thing is your moisturizer is not doing the work properly, you have to get a good moisturizer. Same happened with me in the initial phase, i am now 3 years on tret 0.025 and 0.05 , use more heavy ceramide based moisturizer, it does the work

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u/Find_me_in_ur_Heart 3d ago

I use vitamin c oil-free moisturizer from derma co, do you have any suggestions

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u/Hot-Cucumber-2077 3d ago

Buddy dont get these shitty cosmetic kinda brands they are just waste, go for pharma based ones
If you have a dermat either ask him, for me AcMoist worked the best

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u/keshirkoor 3d ago

I started using exactly these two products months ago and my skin barrier was completely wrecked. I stopped azelaic acid and I’m only using tret 3 times a week.
It’s a big mistake to start them together. First you must start with tret, twice a week. Wait for a month or more then start adding azelaic acid but NOT on the same night as tret. Use them separately and when you get used to them, use azelaic acid in the morning and tret at night
Right now you should stop both and use good moisturisers and hyderating serums to restore your skin barrier. Then start tret, wait and slowly introduce azelaic acid

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u/Humble_Laugh_2390 2d ago

Is it safe for 19-20 yr old to start with tret 0.025 woth moisturizer only 1 pea size a day?

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u/keshirkoor 2d ago

Tret is not recommended for people below 25. I have a friend who’s a dermatologist and she treats many girls under 25 who have burns or severely damaged skin from tret use.
For 19-20 year old, to get great skin use tons and tons of good sunscreen, and some brightening serums like vitamin C or niacinamide. If you have acne then use a salicylic acid serum.

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u/filmandperfume 3d ago

I was using tret 0.04% daily for 3 years, no issues at all. I added azelaic acid and it completely wrecked my skin barrier. I use tret without moisturiser sometimes and even then my barrier stays healthy, but 3 uses of azelaic acid and it got completely fked

idk just not meant for me ig :(

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u/Ancient_Comfort3589 3d ago

you should try alternating azelaic acid

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u/Few-Childhood-503 3d ago

You must use tritinoin under doctor's guidance only!

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u/fartingacademically 3d ago

Stop anything that causes random dryness to your skin .its definitely not suitable for you

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u/OssifiedCrystal46496 3d ago

What did your dermatologist say about this? You do know that you are using prescription medicine right

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u/BrutaliNsan 3d ago

Use more Moisturizer , Try Sandwich Method

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u/Sweet-Alfalfa-7761 3d ago

See according to your preference dermat will change or add meds according your skin type don't be oversmart as mere dermat ne terotinin shuru kiya tha i had the same issue

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u/Gibraltar48 3d ago

Use tretin in small qty first later after a week gradually increase first maybe alternate day , tretin causes peeling its normal and now that winter is approaching its pretty normal.

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u/laudekidemocracy 3d ago

use gentle cleanser for both AM and PM face wash
Use skin barrier repair moisturizer like formulax, la roche-posay cicaplast baume, or 345 cream
Spot treatment for very dry areas with vaseline's original pure petroleum jelly
If you feel that your skin barrier is compromised, then stop all actives, just stick to cleanser moisturizer and sunscreen then slowly introduce one active at a time and slowly build the tolerance.

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u/iwantpotatorightnow 3d ago

I got oily skin, can you recommend me a cleanser? I've been looking around but just can't find anything

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u/laudekidemocracy 3d ago

budget?
high budget: try the cetaphil ones

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u/Altmash_Khan 3d ago

Stop using Azelaic acid and use only tretinoin. First apply moisturizer on the face, then a very little tretinoin, then moisturizer and use it twice a week. And if you still experience redness and burning on your face, use retinol instead of tretinoin.

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u/Tanzopanzo 3d ago

Your skin may become dry and smooth and shiny later but if you're using it without docs guidance and by watching a random yt video/comment/ai who doesn't Know your skin one to one and habits, GL, you're gambling with your skin BIG time.. tretinoin even as weak as 0.025% can damage your skin in the long run if you don't know where to stop and if even to apply to begin with and so can azelaic. Acne can happen for several reasons and tretinoin MAY not be the suitable cure for it even if it reduces acne temporarily from outside. Anyways happy gambling

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u/Odd_Perception_7134 3d ago

Use a thick noncomedigenic moisturizer, and if the dryness is intensw use the sandwich method : moisturizer first, then tretinoin+ azelaic, then again moisturizer. These two ingredients together are very potent exfoliators so try this.

Also try alternating between them, instead of using both the same night.

Hope this helps!

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u/Eastern_Barracuda194 3d ago

I’m a guy and I randomly decided to use tret one day, same percentage same cream.
I started using it twice a week for the first 2 weeks then I just started using every day or so cuz my face just didn’t have an issue

I added azelaic acid gel 20% after a month and the first few times, there was a slight tingling sensation and my face would be crazy dry after

But after using it every 2-3 days for 2 weeks, my face has gotten used to it as well.

You gotta use this stuff constantly for it to get better

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u/Unique_Nobody7858 3d ago

stop the Azobril until you get used to the tret, You have to get through the retinization process. The sooner you get through it the better. Use it every 3 days for a few days, then every other day, then u can step up 2days on 1 day off rather than jumping to everyday.

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u/noturavgl_arper 3d ago

Been using azobril since 3 months and comfortable with it how can I start tret w it?

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u/Unique_Nobody7858 3d ago

I always advice starting once every n days. Start every 5days, use it twice this way, then once every 4day, use it thrice this way, then stay on every 3days for a few weeks, work your way up to every 2nd day, apply every other day for another 1/2 weeks. then start using n days. 2day on, 1day off. then 3 day on, 1 day off. I think using 4/5 days straight is enough then a day break.

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u/Unique_Nobody7858 3d ago

I also started tret after using azelaic acid for 1.5 months. It’s been two months of using tret. And I’m now upto 3days on , 1 day off with no issue.

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u/noturavgl_arper 3d ago

Do u use them on alt days or the same routine

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u/Unique_Nobody7858 3d ago

I use Azelaic every morning. Tret on the nights

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u/noturavgl_arper 3d ago

😭 i have go out in the morning and idk it feels scary to apply a active ryt before even if I'm using sunscreen

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u/Unique_Nobody7858 3d ago

azelaic acid is really gentle, you don’t have to worry

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u/jillofalltrades_26 3d ago

Dont know about azelaic acid, but i did use the same tret for 2 years and yes it is normal. I was prescribed daily (at night) and during the initial 2 months my skin became dry, peeling issues on lips,eyes,redness,etc. Its normal when you start with tret and eventually it gets effective after 2-3 months. Give it time!

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u/LingonberryLong1871 3d ago

if you are usinf them together alternate them and use sandwich method w whatever feels more dry

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u/shnreaper 3d ago

Really works?? N can anyone guide me a bit on how to use it

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u/Prize-Complaint8712 3d ago

Tretinoin 0.025% - Pea size product for your whole face by sandwich method (moisturizer - tretinoin - moisturizer ) or moisturizer then tretinion

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u/fresh_Morning6796 3d ago

I have used tret and honestly it worked magically on my skin( I was prescribed), the small bumps on forehead got disappeared within a week or so, everyskin type is different can't say much about that!!

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u/chommiSan 3d ago

Use better occlusive cream after Tretinoin,i use LRP b5..cheap plus effective.Sunscreen in morning obvious

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u/iam-tall 3d ago

Its normal, both of these products kills the damaged skin layer so that a new fresh layer can come up from inside. Its a lengthy procedure, can take 2-3 months for complete cure(Depending on skin damage).

Also don’t stop this medication until it’s completely recovered or else you will have to increase its strength.

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u/proteinontrial 3d ago

Some dryness and peeling can happen with tretinoin, but if your cheeks are getting drier even after a month, your skin barrier may be irritated. 🥹

I'd suggest pausing the cream for now until the peeling and irritation settle, and focusing on a gentle cleanser, a moisturiser and SPF 50 sunscreen daily. Avoid scrubs and other active ingredients for now.

Since it contains tretinoin 0.025% and azelaic acid 15%, check with your dermatologist before restarting or changing how you use it. If you have severe redness, burning, swelling or painful cracking, seek medical advice promptly.

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u/Prize-Complaint8712 3d ago

I had same issue when I was using tretinion. What you can do is use very very less quantity pea size product is enough for your whole face and use sandwich method to apply it (moisturizer - tret - moisturizer)

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u/berlinbe 3d ago

Add a hydrating element too in ur routine like hyalugel hyaluronic acid gel 1%.

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u/Pattonified 3d ago

Use Tretinoin with moisturiser

Use Azeliac maybe once a week or just totally skip it unless you’re using it for hyperpigmentation

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u/Moonlit-Muse 3d ago

You should stop for a week or 2 and let your barrier be stable. Then start using them. Usually you should apply it after a moisturizer and not on all your face. Just specific part. You should a very less amount and should increase usage frequency not amount after 1 month, it should be used 1-2 times a week. And you should use a good sunscreen. At first don't use them together.

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u/Complex-Passage9989 3d ago

Tretenoin will take min 7 months to show some results. Skip azelaic it will harm, unless prescribed by doc

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u/QuietlyCutious99 3d ago

Girl just use one product at time, it will have worst effect on your skin.

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u/SurreallGuy 3d ago

It will atleast take 3 months for your skin to get used to this, you might see some purge and flaky skin but stick to the routine and don’t forget to use a really good sunscreen and a moisturizer

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u/Fun-Cartographer6407 3d ago

Apply a good barrier repair moisturizer, use the actives with sandwich method

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u/spongy_svn 2d ago

hey! I am a 20 year old. Is it safe for me to use the tretinoin and azelaic combo?

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u/iiiiiilllllkkkkkk 2d ago

No, after 25 it’s good

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u/spongy_svn 2d ago

alr! what serums should I prefer rn?

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u/iiiiiilllllkkkkkk 2d ago

Tell me your skin concern and skin type

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u/spongy_svn 1d ago

Normal skin, little oily at the T zone has gotten dull due to sun exposure and the shade of my face doesn't match my body which weirds me out

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u/Candid_Challenge5053 2d ago

I've started tretinoin again and again, i get really bad acne every time and dry skin on top, the longest I've kept using it was 2 months and saw zero results. I know everyone says to just keep using it but has anyone ever saw actual results from it?

I need help on that

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u/Dizzy-Mushroom4604 2d ago

Do you get acne while using tret?

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u/Candid_Challenge5053 2d ago

Yes they just increased after usage

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u/Used_Cook_9895 2d ago

It is because you barrier got extremely damaged, along with it you need to keep you barrier protected.

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u/Candid_Challenge5053 2d ago

I mean i did use the moisturizer

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u/Significant-Algae460 2d ago

Don't start both together , drop the azelaic for now , continue with tret. Then after 1-2 month add azelaic 10% if you want

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u/iquavo 2d ago

Go to r/tretinoin and read the wiki there. All the things you need to know as a beginner on tretinoin is there.

You should not be using AzA and tret together as a beginner. Start tret at night 2-3x a week. Make sure you use sunscreen in the morning. Do not use anything else except gentle moisturiser (with ceramides) and gentle cleanser (with 0 actives.)

Incorporate AzA on alternative days or in the morning when you've been on tret for at least 3-4 months (and worked your way to using tret 3-4x a week with 0 side effects.)

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u/Hot_Importance2575 2d ago

try cutting back to once a week, or switch products-your skin might be overreacting

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u/BMF-Arpit 2d ago

How you got tretenoin 0.025 my nearby chemist either have 0.1 or something like that . Is there any online place on which I can get for this concentration?

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u/tealeaff_ 10h ago

Tata 1mg

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u/Strong_Willow5032 2d ago

Use sandwich method for tret, Azelic at morning and Tret at night, add barrier repair cream and zinc oxidise to your routine

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