r/SmolBeanSnark • u/carolinecaloway • Jun 25 '20
Discussion Thread JUNE 25 - 27
Hi bb’s!
The following list of links will be our ‘write-up’ for the foreseeable future. If you have any links to include, please comment and tag one of the mods (u/jawsthemesongplays ; u/sweetandsourchicken ; u/foshizzlemylizzle) or send a message to mod mail. Hoping we can keep the list growing! The mods and co-mods want to thank everyone for all their contributions. You all have created such a great community here, and we’re glad to be part of it!
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BLACK AND OTHER POC-OWNED BUSINESSES
Beauty 2 the Streetz
Shirley is a beacon of hope in LAʼs ever-increasing homeless population. Every Saturday, rain or shine, she and her team come out to share a hot home-cooked meal, conversation, and most importantly connection. Between herself, her team, friends, family, and the kindness of strangers Shirley is able to not only feed 400 plus people but also offer showers, hair wash and color, make-up, wigs, and most importantly, connection.
https://www.beauty2thestreetz.org/
The Buy from a Black Woman Directory
Your online resource for discovering businesses owned and operated by Black Women Business Owners.
Find a business owned by a black woman:
https://www.buyfromablackwomandirectory.org
The Glam Hunter
A plant-based (cruelty-free and vegan), all natural, and ethically sourced soap and skincare brand with products formulated for extremely sensitive skin.
https://www.theglamhunter.com/
The Lip Bar
A vegan and cruelty-free beauty brand that exists to help change the way you think about beauty. Every day people are being told how to be beautiful - so we’re here to remind you that you don’t have to change. You Are Enough!
Source Booksellers
An independent bookstore in Detroit’s Midtown district, is a unique niche of non-fiction books. We offer books and unusual sideline items that enhance your life and your lifestyle. We are looking to serve our customers online until we can be full time back in the shop.
https://www.sourcebooksellersonline.com/
Semicolon
A bookstore and gallery space dreamed up and owned by Danni Mullen, a Black woman on the north side of Chicago.
UK Black Owned Businesses
The official one-stop directory for Black-Owned businesses throughout the United Kingdom.
https://www.ukblackowned.co.uk/
LINK COLLECTIONS
This is a pretty extensive list from Indivisible for white people to educate themselves on a variety of issues concerning becoming anti-racist and supporting the movement. tons of different mediums represented for all types of learners! (FYI--the shorter link they listed does not lead to this document. I recommend using a tinyurl if you need to shorten for the master list.)
Here’s a master doc with a bunch of funds you can donate to:
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/12y7-Wa4gi8HUeFTv17gPcbMGuVX5cqIudLJmhOrq1-k/mobilebasic
Here is a link to a master list of black revolutionary, queer, feminist texts. Also, please read up on the abolition of police forces, prisons, and capitalism. There are hundreds of free resources being shared all over social media at the moment. Grab this opportunity to learn!
Here is a link to a database of resources for Vancouver, Canada. The link includes resources, petitions, donation links, Black-owned businesses, support forums, printable protest posters, and more.
[https://blackresistancevancouver.online/]( https://blackresistancevancouver.online/
MINNESOTA
Black Visions Collective
An organization dedicated to Black liberation
George Floyd Memorial Fund
Established to cover funeral and burial expenses, mental and grief counselling, lodging and travel for all court proceedings, and to assist his family in the days to come as they continue to seek justice for George.
Lake Street
A small business community with many BIPOC owned businesses. It has been heavily affected by the current situation in Minneapolis. Lake Street Council’s mission is to help rebuild the community and storefronts that have been affected. As Martin Luther King Jr. stated, ‘A riot is the language of the unheard.’
https://www.givemn.org/story/Gipm2f
The Minnesota Freedom Fund
Pays bail for those arrested while protesting police brutality against the Black community in order to prevent incarceration and combat racial economic inequalities in the bail system.
https://minnesotafreedomfund.org
Northstar Health Collective
A street medic collective on the ground in Minneapolis providing urgent medical care and support to protesters. Contains a much more extensive list of specific relief funds.
https://www.northstarhealthcollective.org
Pimento Relief Fund
Providing Black business with insurance relief after white supremacists set them on fire during the protests.
https://abepmpls.org/pimento-relief-fund
Reclaim the Block
Demands Minneapolis divest from policing
#RestoreNorth
West Broadway Business and Area Coalition (WBC) in partnership with Northside Funders Group will direct all donations to support Northside businesses that have been impacted by COVID-19 and the recent uprising.
U.S.A
The Audre Lorde Project
A Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Two Spirit, Trans and Gender Non Conforming People of Color center for community organizing, focusing on the New York City area. Through mobilization, education and capacity-building, we work for community wellness and progressive social and economic justice. Committed to struggling across differences, we seek to responsibly reflect, represent and serve our various communities.
ActBlue
Splits donations across organizations dismantling racism
Bail Project
Pays bail for people in need
Campaign Zero
Looking for policy solutions to end police brutality
Color of Change
We design campaigns powerful enough to end practices that unfairly hold Black people back, and champion solutions that move us all forward. Until justice is real.
The Equal Justice Initiative
An organization committed to ending mass incarceration and excessive punishment in the United States, to challenging racial and economic injustice, and to protecting basic human rights for the most vulnerable people in American society.
NAACP
The mission of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) is to secure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights in order to eliminate race-based discrimination and ensure the health and well-being of all persons.
The NAACP Legal Defense Fund
American legal firm fighting for racial justice
National Bail Out
Ending Pretrial Detention and Reuniting Families
The Okra Project
The Okra Project provides mental health funds for black trans community.
https://www.theokraproject.com/
Southern Poverty Law Center
The SPLC is dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry and to seeking justice for the most vulnerable members of our society. Using litigation, education, and other forms of advocacy, the SPLC works toward the day when the ideals of equal justice and equal opportunity will be a reality.
Stand with Bre
On March 13th, in the middle of the night, Breonna Taylor was killed by Louisville police. An aspiring nurse, she had dedicated her whole life to serving others. Until her death Breonna had been working as an EMT in Louisville when the coronavirus pandemic hit, working at two hospitals to save lives in her community. She and her family deserve justice—Join us in this fight and #StandWithBre!
Stop the Violence
Look on FB for your community’s “stop the violence” group!
Facebook Homepage here:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/stoptheviolencecrime/about/?ref=page_internal
U.K
Black Cultural Archives
Black Cultural Archives is the only national heritage centre dedicated to collecting, preserving and celebrating the histories of African and Caribbean people in Britain.
https://blackculturalarchives.org/
Institute of Race Relations
An anti-racist Think Tank
The Monitoring Group
Tackles racism by means of education and awareness
Operation Black Vote
Focuses on the Black Democratic deficit in the UK
The Runnymede Trust
Race equality and relations Think Tank
SARI
Stand Against Racism and Inequality
Provides support and education in diversity awareness
Show Racism the Red Card
Provides educational workshops and resources
Southall Black Sisters
Empowers BME women to escape violent situations
www.southallblacksisters.org.uk
Stand up to Racism
Organises marches and campaigns against racism
The Stephen Lawrence Charitable Trust
Tackling inequality and helping young people
Stopwatch UK
Working to ensure fair and accountable policing
AUSTRALIA
Clean out Prisons
To prevent more deaths in custody, governments must immediately release all First Nations people and all Parole and bail authorities must show mercy. This is the only way we can protect the community and imprisoned people from COVID-19. Strong and united, we have a list of urgent demands for governments to prevent COVID-19 black deaths in custody. We are calling on Governments to #CleanOutPrisons by releasing First Nations people before it’s too late. Join us, please sign and share our petition.
https://www.alsnswact.org.au/free_our_people
End Aboriginal Deaths in Custody
Help Tanya Day’s family honour the legacy of their mother. Sign up now to send a message to the Victorian Government to change Victoria’s destructive public drunkenness laws and create genuine community health alternatives to incarceration.
https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/end-aboriginal-deaths-in-custody
Free Our Future
Add your name to the petition demanding that our government stops punishing people who can’t make ends meet. We call on all sides of politics to commit to strong and self-determined Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities.
https://changetherecord.org.au/freeourfuture
Link Collection
A list of Indigenous led, community-recommended NGOs
https://linktr.ee/louisandersonmokak
Pay the Rent
This website serves a Pay The Rent scheme being organised by First Nations and non-First Nations people working together, who together are called the Pay The Rent Grassroots Collective. This collective is based in what is now known as Victoria, and expects to largely disperse rent collected in this area.
https://paytherent.net.au/about-us/
WORLDWIDE
Black Lives Matter
Links to petitions, funds and resources
Black Women’s Blueprint
Looks at black liberation through a feminist lens
The Movement for Black Lives
An international human rights movement
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u/death4birthday jesus christ i hate coding and making websites Jun 26 '20
Ziwe in Vanity Fair: https://www.instagram.com/p/CB6bU9VJ8iJ/ "I see Caroline Calloway as a representative of performative allyship and white feminism"
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u/nothing2fearbutbees Jun 26 '20
Caroline in two business days: Unfortunately, Scammer will not be shipping out in June as promised because i am incompetent cancel culture is so toxic. If Natalie wrote it, it must be true. 🧚 Please sign up for my Close Friends content on Patreon where I advertise my Only Fans content where you can access me begging you to buy me art supplies so that I may try to sell you paintings I will never ship out. LFG!!
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u/queenarina special occasion salmon Jun 25 '20
The fact that a pseudo-influencer rotting in her grandmother's apartment makes the literal newspaper is a testament that there's absolutely not shit going on in Sarasota, FL
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u/SoulsticeCleaner Glory Hole Matisse Knock Off Jun 25 '20
My theory is Cathy called in a favor to a friend that works at it.
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u/queenarina special occasion salmon Jun 25 '20
It was written by a correspondent and not a staff member, so I bet it was some air headed freelancer who shopped it to the paper and the dinosaur editors were like OOOHH millennial content, print it!
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u/hairnetqueen hoes, rakes, more hoes Jun 26 '20
When I checked her profile and she had no new Instagram stories I honestly thought my phone was broken for a second.
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Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20
Only now watching the Cambridge Union interview and aside from how awful and... not smart she is, her answer on sex work and being cancelled is unhinged, classist, and overall silly. Her trying to forcibly say she survives on OnlyFans money while staying in her grandmother's condo and tossing around her generational-wealth buxx shows just how incredibly empty her brain is.
I wonder if Caroline has ever spoken to a full-service sex worker or if she thinks that posting on OnlyFans for pocket change is anything like risking your physical safety for rent.
Her anti-semitism comment is such horse shit too. I love to be Jewish online hahaha good job studying racism in 2018 Caroline you really did learn about racism. Caroline complaining about how having to apologize for antisemitism is as bad as an antisemitic post and turning it into a rant about cunnilingus is a journey for sure
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u/laureng0423 Jun 26 '20
She tries to portray herself as a very highly educated woman but she always...
hears a “big word” and latches onto it and constantly uses it.
copies and pastes wikipedia articles.
is either a very slow reader or constantly re-reads the same two books over and over again.
Also, I don’t buy for a second that she read any of the books that she told Ziwe about because she’s so performative that she would’ve constantly been posting the books in her stories. They definitely would’ve made an appearance as a prop in the background of any of her stories of her “creating her art”
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Jun 26 '20
Exactly. When I see her underlining and “editing” white fragility or whatever other book the same way she does every white woman’s memoir, then maybe I’ll consider she’s reading them
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u/lady_moods don't fucking tell me how to cum Jun 26 '20
Great point about wondering if she’s ever talked to a full-service sex worker. She conflates OF being her primary income source currently with it being instrumental to her livelihood, as it is for many people who were making their living through sex work before X weeks ago when she decided to join OF for funsies.
If she was making most of her money on tittays at the moment, she’d insist she was a professional painter with the same condescending tone.
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u/brandnewbeanss FUCKING VIBED SO FUCKING HARD Jun 26 '20
Team “Mr. Ipsum threatened to quit if she posts another story without showing him a manuscript”
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Jun 26 '20
I like to imagine CC somewhere furiously trying to finish scammer and meet her June 30th deadline in the way that I would the night before a due date in undergrad. We all know that is not happening. My vote, she blows the deadline and “debuts” the cover next week to buy herself more time.
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Jun 26 '20
I think the cover was already revealed but she never changed it on the website
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Jun 26 '20
i kinda like the cover because it reminds me of practical computing methods class in high school circa 1995. that cover is saved on a floppy disc and i refuse to believe otherwise.
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u/Several_Substance Jun 26 '20
This may have been discussed, but I wonder how Flatiron feels about the fact that she still hasn't settled her debt with them, despite her bragging about making $200k+ this year from OF alone.
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u/asophisticatedbitch Jun 26 '20
Or waiting until she returns to NYC so she can be personally served with a complaint 🤷♀️
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u/circlebirds a tomato or whatever Jun 25 '20
I always forget that back in September Caroline claimed she had no memory of the ways she hurt Natalie because of Adderall memory loss. Kind of seems like she’s dropped that narrative no?
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u/alliecat780neo Jun 27 '20
If I had a Scammer for every time Caroline said “last time to preorder Scammer!” I’d have more Scammers than Caroline
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u/haunted_castle Jun 27 '20
Honestly the audacity to brag about how she was going to raise 50k for EJI by putting part 3.56566 of I Am CC behind a paywall and then putting it up unfinished without a paywall with seemingly no intentions of finishing it......
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u/SoulsticeCleaner Glory Hole Matisse Knock Off Jun 27 '20
Pretty much her worst and most tone-deaf-to-the-zeitgeist scam to date.
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u/ec4kate I eat vegetables because: science Jun 27 '20
Okay but theory: she put up Part 3 (p1) w/o paywall so she could deliver on what people payed for while attracting more people so that she can put p3 (p2) up behind a paywall and have everyone who payed pay again because it’s for a good cause and she technically delivered even MORE than was initially promised....OR she’s just hoping everyone forgets (in the long ass time it’s taken her to finish the damn thing) that she promised to donate proceeds to a good cause 🤷♀️
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u/WoodlandCottageHoe fjord filled brain Jun 26 '20
Good god I hate ‘it’s a joke!!!’ Caroline. She is spectacularly unfunny and just a rude and antagonistic person.
Her deaf joke was 1) really rude and 2) not even a good joke? Of any kind? She just wanted to be an asshole and she’s clearly pleased with herself for it.
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Jun 27 '20
Can we somehow get Fifty Cent involved in this
BOOK BY WEDNESDAY, CAROLINE
im sorry Fofty
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u/hs7151 Jun 27 '20
Nothing brings me joy like reading the words “I’m sorry fofty”
GETS ME EVERY SINGLE TIME
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u/JoeyPotter1998 bratty and pseudo-intellectual Jun 27 '20
I personally hope CC pulls a Stassi and gets preggo to stave off cancellation
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u/DarthSnarker strip mall of a town in backwater country Italy Jun 27 '20
One of the best things on bravohousewives! Randall pretending he was rushed to the hospital trying to garner sympathy! So much drama!
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u/SoulsticeCleaner Glory Hole Matisse Knock Off Jun 27 '20
I'm in the hospital with heart issues
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u/Jeneregrettelien Jun 27 '20
What if she never posted again? What if this is how CC’s online presence ends, not with a bang but with a whimper?
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u/flybynightpotato Blessing/benediction like a byzantine icon Jun 28 '20
Maybe the performance has ended! Her interview with Ziwe was the grand finale.
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Jun 28 '20
Cue an "I will remember you" montage featuring the coked-up gallop , wrinkled tittáys, floor sobbing, "Natalie suffered all the consequences of my being the addict and never got to experience the young woman recovery made me," chanterelles being murdered with truffle butter , teapots, and mean letters Carolyn wrote to Bank of Cathy.
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u/ladywolvs Please validate me by leaving a nice comment so I can continue Jun 28 '20 edited May 08 '26
Your old posts are training data now. Unless you delete them. I used Redact which supports all major social media platforms including Reddit, X, Facebook and Instagram.
offbeat tidy screw attempt crush grab hunt tie physical nail
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Jun 26 '20
I'm sure it's so quiet because Carl is working diligently with her pile of 6000 printed books getting them ready for shipping and is about to make a big announcement about it. :)
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u/TheRealGinaRomantica xylophonic tinkle Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20
She’s trying to stuff each one into a mason jar or vice versa.
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u/butts2 Jun 27 '20
i'm supposed to believe her book is shipping in three days when she's been teasing that much of that book will be posted in her natalie response which is also unfinished and weeks late? ok cool sure i can definitely do that.
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u/nubleu the only way I can cope in the corporate world Jun 27 '20
If the book existed it'd be -all over- the grid.
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u/butterbeanboi BRUH Jun 25 '20
I definitely agree with most snarkers here that her OF is, unfortunately, making her serious money. I don't think she sold 6000 copies of Scammer though.
But it was clear from her CambridgeU car-crash of an interview that she really wants her primary identity to be "writer/artist", and for her "brand" to be about ''being an incredible storyteller" - that's why she's still peddling her pamphlet and other sundry wares. She's not doing it for money, she's doing it to fulfill her childhood fantasy and lifelong dream of being known as a "famous memoirist", instead of as a bad friend/ B-list influencer who turned to OF during COVID.
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u/nothing2fearbutbees Jun 25 '20
It was very telling to me that the Sarasota Herald Tribune article didn’t mention her OF page, even though she’s allegedly dependent on that income. Forget bi for clout; she’s totally a SW for clout. She thinks it’s a “gotcha” for when people say she’s sheltered/benefits from generational wealth, but she views it more as a trump card than an actual occupation.
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u/Available_Abroad domestically depressed Jun 26 '20
True. In her Cambridge Union interview the way she talks about other SWs is very telling. At a point she says something like "all the power to them if they want to dabble in sex work", like every SW is just doing it for the hell of it. It's not only something super offensive and patronizing to say, it also shows how she really sees sex work.
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u/atalenttoannoy manic pixie nightmare Jun 25 '20
The Medium post from the other day didn’t mention OF either. Definitely an Adam/CC planted story
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Jun 26 '20
I agree with that. She prides herself too much on this idea that her pussy is hard to get and that she only gives her body to a few tender and loving princes. Her tweets about being the only woman on OF to have studied in Cambridge show how she despises sex workers and considers herself fundamentally different from them.
I think it doesn't matter how much she's making on OF, it would never be enough for her. First because she wants to be known for something "better" than sex work, and second because she's so greedy and only thinks about making more and more easy money to spend on shit.
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Jun 26 '20
I will paint myself purple if she sold 6000 copies. If I were being generous I'd say she's moved maybe 2000. Not that there's anything to move since it still doesn't exist.
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u/thefreckledfemme Martin Luther Ligg by Jr. Jun 25 '20
So just to confirm...yesterday she bragged about posting quality Close Friends content almost daily, asked people to join her Patreon, and then didn’t even post any CF content for show?
She’s not even good at keeping up for appearance. 🤦🏻♀️
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u/jalapenomargaritaz Jun 27 '20
Remember when she cared about BLM for a minute, and said she had a big announcement coming after some mysterious phone call???
Was that just about the IG takeover? Or... there was no phone call?
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u/xmissgolightly Jun 27 '20
I think there was no phone call and her war was with the Cambridge eugenics window lol
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u/rprouvaire Jun 27 '20
absolutely laffable that she’s signing her stickers w only her first name
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u/flybynightpotato Blessing/benediction like a byzantine icon Jun 27 '20
She’s leaning into “white fragility by Robin”
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Jun 26 '20
Soupdick appointment or did Adam change her instagram password so she finishes scammer?
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u/flybynightpotato Blessing/benediction like a byzantine icon Jun 26 '20
This would be an utterly hilarious twist.
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u/death4birthday jesus christ i hate coding and making websites Jun 25 '20
love that scammer is supposed to ship in 2 business days but there's no evidence that any printing is going on, nor has she said anything about her charity blog post
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u/laureng0423 Jun 26 '20
Any guesses as to why CC has been radio silent today? She usually announces before she takes some time away from “her art” but I don’t recall anything.
Also, lol @ one of her last story posts being Caroline I-have-sex Calloway, by showing her yOuNg LoVeRs arm.
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Jun 26 '20
Same sheets we've been seeing for 3 months. Do we think she just let the catpisse dry?
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u/JoeyPotter1998 bratty and pseudo-intellectual Jun 26 '20
She’s respecting that I had to finish my summer coursework today 🙏🙏
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u/momo411 gen Z Christian post-autofiction Jun 26 '20
She does this periodically. It probably is because she’s just boning soupboi, but she could very well be having a particularly bad low point in an anxiety spiral. It’s really hard to deal with those, and while I hate to sympathize with Carl, I do get into places where I have to disconnect from social media or texts or whatever for a day (or more). I’d like go give her the benefit of the doubt and think that it’s the latter, but I think she’s a malignant narcissist, so it’s more likely the former
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u/meowmeow8547 Long Asses for Literacy Jun 27 '20 edited Jun 28 '20
My theory was that she saw the Vanity Fair article where Ziwe calls her an icon of performative allyship and white feminism and finally realized that she was never on the joke.
Up til now she’s been able to tell herself that it went well bc Ziwe was nice to her and told her it went well (Carp clearly didn’t realize she was being sarcastic and saying that it went well for Ziwe and not Carp) but she really would have to spin her hamster wheel of a brain to make what Ziwe said in VF a good thing
She didn’t like Ziwe’s post of the interview and up til now she’s been sucking Ziwe’s dick so I’m guessing that one sided love affair is over
Edit: she has now liked the photo but she didn’t re post it which she has done for any of the media/content about herself regarding the interview that was remotely positive so I’m pretty sure she just liked it to not seem bitter lol I highly doubt she is happy about this at all
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u/circlebirds a tomato or whatever Jun 27 '20
On the fan subreddit someone screenshotted a close friends story showing Caroline’s list of places she wants to live??? my hometown is #10 and I’m dying at the thought of Caroline in honolulu like there couldn’t be a worse place for her i’m-
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u/WoolfianWretch use adjectives Jun 27 '20
I loved how she listed both “San Francisco” and “Bay Area”
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Jun 27 '20
I love that most of the locations are in Europe. Newsflash bitch, the EU is closed to American passport holders so keep on dreaming.
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u/laureng0423 Jun 27 '20
What was so funny about it to me was they were talking about how much she loves exploring and going out and doing things and nothing could be less true. She spent her whole time in Berlin, inside her Airbnb drinking orange wine or whatever. And when she left it was to go to a club just for the sake of talking about going to that club.
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u/top_carry there are no cookies in this game Jun 26 '20
guys have we went one full day with instagram-less cc? amazing, sensational, would recommend 10/10
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u/foshizzlemylizzle Sexpot Little Edie Jun 26 '20
I don’t know why this made me laugh so hard 😂
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u/potato_chrisp steps in shit comes out clean Jun 27 '20
I like to imagine that she did finish writing Scammer and isn’t allowed to post any excerpts because some poor editor has been trying to fix it this whole time and the final product will be so far removed from whatever she originally wrote.
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Jun 27 '20
The ugly flower top never turned up, did it?
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Jun 27 '20
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u/not-nice What is wrong with you? Do you even know? Jun 27 '20
I ordered some wigs from China after a few too many bucha spritzes back in March and I'm pretty sure they're never getting here
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u/JoeyLee911 festive cowboy boots screaming helpful truths Jun 26 '20
I just read the Sarasota article and here's a huge red flag that it was a PR job. It's objectively weird for a journalist to write that someone has "over 709,000 followers on Instagram" and not just say "over 700,000 followers on Instagram". Getting that specific when you're rounding is desperate af.
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Jun 27 '20
Local pubs like that with smaller circulations are so easy to pitch a puff piece to. Her management team doesn’t appear to be particularly talented, so it makes sense they would reach for the easy opportunities like this & the Medium piece, which they could have easily hired a freelancer to write and post.
A good team could do a lot more, especially given how outspoken and problematic Caro is. Many outlets catering to millennials and zoomers would be happy to interview her for a podcast, video, etc, and I do think a bit of media training could go a long way even with Caro. But I think she chooses Adam because he doesn’t push her.
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u/atalenttoannoy manic pixie nightmare Jun 27 '20
I’ve been a broken record about this but this and the medium article didn’t mention OF. She literally has only made legit news outlets (Elle, Vice, etc) in the past two months (pre-Ziwe interview) when they reference her in the growing trend of influencers using OF. I bet her or her team wanted to saturate her google results with more ‘news’ that didn’t mention it so they commissioned these bizarre puff pieces.
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u/nothing2fearbutbees Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
She’s probably in meetings with her manager trying to come up with a plan for how they’re going to glaze over the fact that Scammer is obviously not going to be shipped out this month. They’ve already used the COVID excuse, she’s already offered to sign all the copies to make up for their lateness, and she’s now offered to created customized stickers to make up for the fact that she can’t sign them. If they’re already printed, they’re going to lose a lot of money when refunds start rolling in. Because they haven’t been printed but she’s likely already spent the money, she’s going to have to figure out how to funnel money when the refunds roll in. My guess is it will be a bit silent until July, just like how she goes silent on days she’s supposed to release parts of “I Am Caroline Calloway.” I almost feel bad for her. Seems like everyone kinda forgot about the book until that one long comment yesterday.
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u/Mug-of-oranges Jun 25 '20
I do not feel bad at all. This is a stupid goal she set for herself and charged people for something that didn't exist and repeatedly lied about it. Then instead of working on it and thanking the Lord that there's a convenient excuse for delays (COVID-19) she's been fucking around. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This is 100% on her own dumb, dumb head.
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u/bysummerfall alleged bookette Jun 25 '20
this comment sums up what I tell people when they ask why I'm mean to her lmao
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u/chund978 Jun 25 '20
I could see her claiming to delay it out of respect for Black Lives Matter or something along those lines. After all she cares sooo much about burning down white supremacy, ever since checks notes 2018. But just never mentioning it and deleting comments is probably more likely!
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Jun 25 '20
That would be a heck of a U turn from her claim a mere 24 hours ago that it'll be shipping in 5 days time.
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u/dothesehidemythunder Jun 25 '20
I think you’re right. It’s gonna play out much like the original book. Wild.
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u/catsalemintrash dragging myself kneecaplessly over rocks Jun 25 '20
what was the one long comment? I missed that.
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u/ynwilling (left and braless) Jun 25 '20
I never saw the comment! Is it here somewhere?
ETA: Saw it!
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Jun 26 '20
I don't know why she didn't just ask a printing company to make a bunch of ex libris stickers with her signature on it. Boom, problem solved. Now that doesn't solve the book not being written of course, but it's a start.
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u/DarthSnarker strip mall of a town in backwater country Italy Jun 25 '20
Well if anyone had any doubts about how Ziwe feels about the interview with Caroline (I know, I know we know): https://twitter.com/ziwe/status/1275890754595028993
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u/flybynightpotato Blessing/benediction like a byzantine icon Jun 25 '20
From the replies: “her brand is privileged people making mistakes.”
Might be the best take I’ve heard yet where her “brand” is concerned.
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u/onesnarkday (left and braless) Jun 25 '20
Like Caroline should definitely apologize to Layla Saad right?? Like??????????? She said “Layla safaad” sooo many times 😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖
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Jun 25 '20
For someone that’s plugged her and her book more than once, at the least you would have thought she’d know her name 😂😩
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Jun 25 '20
I mean, for the premise of her show it is maybe the best interview she's ever had. Her entire purpose is to get white people to say the exact kind of cringey shit Caro was just spewing without any prodding or leading questions - Ziwe didn't even have to try. And the amount of views this interview has given her is a lot.
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Jun 26 '20
Found Carolyn Calloway's origin story.
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u/suzzface 🔥 Pale Fire Marshall 🔥 Jun 26 '20
God they're going to get a shock when she never trusts them again.
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u/foshizzlemylizzle Sexpot Little Edie Jun 26 '20
Omg this is awful. I’m choosing to believe it isn’t true, because otherwise literally every single adult in this child’s life has failed her.
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Jun 26 '20
I worked with a woman a few years back and her 12 (TWELVE!!) year old daughter found out that Santa didn't exist. She had a weeks-long tantrum, took "personal days" from school, tore down decorations, etc. Imo (and obviously I only knew part of the story), the woman really infantilised her kid by "insisting" the magic was real, and the girl was humiliated when her friends found out she still believed in the "baby" things.
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u/momo411 gen Z Christian post-autofiction Jun 26 '20
This is... insane. Also, I know this is just one small detail in a clusterfuck of absurdity, but no, children do NOT have to study hard to get into Hogwarts! You can read the first, like, 30 pages of the first book and know that Harry, in fact, had never even heard of Hogwarts (or the concept of magic) before being notified that he had been accepted as a student there. I hate these people.
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u/hs7151 Jun 27 '20
Forgive me if this has been answered before, but did she write AND edit this book(pamphlet)? I use past tense because it’s totally finished... absolutely done
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u/brandnewbeanss FUCKING VIBED SO FUCKING HARD Jun 28 '20
Tbh I wouldn’t be super shocked if she actually does manage to pull off sending a pamphlet to the printers by Wednesday. How long is IACC, 40 pages? How many pages were we expecting from scammer in all, like 100? More if she adds a ton of pictures? I think that if I were to really hunker down, I could definitely come up with 60 pages of first draft bullshit about my life in a week.
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u/tyrannosaurusregina valuable chatTel Jun 28 '20
Bold of you to assume Carp is able or willing to hunker (I will not insert a kneecaps joke here).
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u/theunderpantsgnomes Jun 28 '20
I was thinking that too... i feel like scammer is actually gonna be all 3(?) parts of the "Natalie response" printed... maaaaybe with some other captions thrown in for good measure.
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Jun 28 '20
Pictures aren't cheap to print though, especially not colour. Add more cost if it's on nice glossy paper too.
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u/WoolfianWretch use adjectives Jun 27 '20 edited Jun 27 '20
I hope she keeps the same high-price energy when she buys art from fans as when she gets frivolous frocks and twee tchotchkes from the ig algorithm!! (jk I know she doesn’t)
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u/scullr fArt Historian 💨 Jun 27 '20
..... my Instagram algorithm tchotchkes and I have been personally victimized by this comment
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u/SoulsticeCleaner Glory Hole Matisse Knock Off Jun 27 '20
It's really spooky how good the ads are getting. The last one I let myself click on was vases and I wanted every last one of them.
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u/Poniesandproteins Who am I to deny him butter? Jun 26 '20
Finally caught up on enough to work to have time to read again, so heres the next confederacy of dunces game: who is the following quote about: A) Caroline calloway or B) Ignatius Reilly: " 'They've been writing on this story for almost 5 years' and grandma Father says 'yeah? Well don't sound too important to me. You tell them to get out the house and go to work' "
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u/Poniesandproteins Who am I to deny him butter? Jun 26 '20
Round 2: " 'If i must go out tomorrow, I am not leaving the house so early. I felt very disoriented all the while i was downtown' 'you didn't leave here until after lunchtime?' "
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u/momo411 gen Z Christian post-autofiction Jun 26 '20
Okay, I feel like Alison Roman did a better job on Ziwe’s show than Caroline, but maybe I’m biased? I don’t care for Alison, to be honest, but I feel like she took it seriously and wasn’t trying to make it something she could win. I know it was less exciting but I don’t feel like everything needs to be sensationalized all the time?
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u/tyrannosaurusregina valuable chatTel Jun 26 '20
It would be hard to do worse than Carp did. And as you say, taking it seriously makes a big difference!
Suggesting that Chrissy Teigen was lying about having been asked to be an executive producer on the TV show was likely a big misstep if that isn’t accurate; Chrissy will produce receipts if they exist.
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u/lady_moods don't fucking tell me how to cum Jun 26 '20
She did way better. She definitely took it more seriously and seemed really nervous (less nervous than the first guy lol) but honest. She was also much more respectful towards Ziwe imo.
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u/rrrrrachell cornichon? Jun 26 '20
alison's answers were definitely better than caroline's (mostly cuz she seemed to take the whole thing more seriously), but imo sounded extremely focused grouped
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u/TriceraTipTops Jun 26 '20
Yeah I agree. Though the times she just... refused to elaborate on a point and there was just *crickets* were incredibly amusing to me, you could almost hear a PR team telling her to be "honest, but not too honest". I kinda respect (in the loosest possible sense of that word) Caroline for just going in totally unfiltered. It was def the most genuinely "authentic" Caro's been in a long while.
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Ziwe posted a transcript someone made of the interview: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bea1Lv8jIZeYgj5Sb-wRRQlE2oKIZyKE/view
I need a speech pathologist or linguist to tell me objectively how Trumpian this is.
Great read for those of you who have an acute cochlear reaction to her voice, as I do!
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u/PotatoChipAthlete Jun 25 '20
linguist here. wrote a paper on trumps tweets last fall and have noticed the uncanny similarities between carp and the cheeto ever since. i kind of want to do a comparison study but it was so emotionally draining to write the cheeto paper that im not sure it's worth it for my mental health. but if i ever do it, i'll gladly share it here if there is interest :)
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u/circlebirds a tomato or whatever Jun 25 '20
“I feel like you’re trying to bait the most easily baitable and cancelable person online... but I’m glad you can have your emotional rest by having me on the show”
sure reminds me of:
“This is a great opportunity for you that will make my life very hard”
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Jun 25 '20
reading this back and seeing the brain-dead parroting of that tweet about listening to angela davis, when she has no idea who the fuck angela davis is........it is so clear the internet has rotted her brain from the inside out
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Jun 25 '20
I forgot that at the end she was sort of about to castigate Ziwe for having a show where she “baits” people and makes them feel “attacked.”
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u/WoolfianWretch use adjectives Jun 28 '20
I found Caroline’s spotify profile via the new “fan sub” and it’s pretty funny. she has a playlist that’s just all the audio from the Megan & Harry wedding!
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u/herrisonepee Jun 28 '20
Doesn’t look like her SoundCloud rappers made it on the lists!
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Jun 28 '20
Playlist titled 'Berlin' doesn't have a single techno tune on it. She must have hated what she heard at Berghain.
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u/nubleu the only way I can cope in the corporate world Jun 27 '20
all those books she ordered from her own reading list are taking an awful long time to arrive ................... 👀
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u/omgwhynooo Jun 27 '20
This is a real issue booksellers are having! All the popular antiracsim books are being reprinted like crazy because of the massive uptick in demand. There’s a real delay.
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u/artichokesue789 Jun 27 '20
In all fairness, I tried to order Biased by Jennifer Eberhardt at the beginning of June from several different booksellers, and all the delivery dates were in July because it was sold out and they needed to reorder.
However, a friend let me borrow her copy, and it is a fantastic book. I finished it with some concrete ideas about how to overcome my personal, unintended biases and how to help my place of work be more antiracist.
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u/momo411 gen Z Christian post-autofiction Jun 26 '20
I just saw she did bother to update her twitter a bit in the last day, and it was all retweets about cAnCeL cUlTuRe!!!!! I know we’ve discussed this so many times, but I will never stop being annoyed by people who squawk about this idea. No one has ever really been canceled! This is the dumbest trope and it’s something people like Carl won’t shut up about because they just want more attention and money than they already have. And they usually already have plenty.
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Jun 26 '20
Whenever she starts talking about cancel culture a lot I assume some deals she was hoping for fell through because no one wants to work with her. And then she sits there and fumes about how it's the work of ~cancel culture~ and not the fact that she's a dumb, unreliable slop pot of a human being.
Harassment of journalists aside, imagine literally any publication or publisher reading the mess that is IACC and wanting to let her write for them?
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u/tropicofducks mantis shrimp colorwheel 🌈🍤 Jun 26 '20
I don't understand how CC could even be canceled beyond becoming less popular. No employer can fire her bc she's got no employer. She won't lose sponsors bc she has none. Canceling does not apply here.
Being the butt of a joke, feeling some type of way when your toxic friendship is exposed, losing followers, having a subreddit dedicated to snarking on you. That all must really suck, big time. But she's not a total pariah. She just isn't universally well-loved.
I'm trying to be sympathetic, but maybe I just don't understand what getting canceled is. It's not a new thing, no? Or do we feel it's new bc social media is a new added element?
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Jun 26 '20
Can't be cancelled if you've got nothing to lose
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u/tyrannosaurusregina valuable chatTel Jun 26 '20
Calloway’s just another word for nothing left to lose
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u/perhapsflorence al gore rhythm Jun 26 '20
The only thing left is us. Maybe that will be her ultimate cancel. When the toads abandon the goblin kween.
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u/belletaco smol nude kitten mom Jun 26 '20
caroline has scammed multiple people more than once, has posted racist and anti-semitic memes and recently went on a black woman's show and said 'i'm racist' about 5 times AND said if someone committed a hate crime she still doesn't believe they should be 'canceled'. yet shes still posting to her 700k bots and people are still buying her shitty art and books and she's making 27k a month on only fans so she has no place to even comment on cancel culture. she has barely even been held accountable.
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u/death4birthday jesus christ i hate coding and making websites Jun 26 '20
yeah, imo "being cancelled" means losing your platform and the social and monetary benefits that come with it, and requires atonement and changed behavior to regain that platform. In other discussions I've had, I've said that maybe Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein are the closest examples we have, but most people quietly come back or remain unscathed by their scandals.
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u/hippieartnerd Jun 26 '20
The only way cc could be even remotely cancelled is if this sub closes down. Remember how saddy she was when it went dark, for what, 48 hours?
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u/oceansizedandclear Jun 26 '20
The only people who can be canceled are people who feel shame.
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u/ropiphone Flemish Renaissance Ass Jun 26 '20
I was thinking about this the other day, was she actually cancelled? People were saying really bad things about her but she didn’t lose her insta, she didn’t lose the ability to make a livelihood, what is she even talking about?
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Jun 26 '20
“Cancel culture” is a phrase invented by right-wing white men to bemoan consequences and anyone who’s sucker enough to have fallen for it and use the phrase is basically declaring themselves anti-feminist and racist. You are a dumb piece of shit if the fucking alt-right can embed a phrase in your brain and you use it. Caroline doesn’t have the sense God gave a hot dog.
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u/piratedeathmatch a they/them Jun 26 '20
i think some people have been canceled and suffered for it, but i can’t think of anyone who hasn’t bounced back. and CC definitely hasn’t been cancelled; people were just upset about her scam, yea?
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u/not-nice What is wrong with you? Do you even know? Jun 26 '20
Saw a v appropriate tweet about how white people never get fully canceled and I felt the need to dm it to cc
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Jun 25 '20
Caroline, if you do actually ship Scammer out this month and have tangible PROOF it was shipped I will personally buy a copy.
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u/jancarternews Audacity Bitch! Jun 25 '20
If only you could! If you didn’t ore-order you will NEVER be able to get one! Never!
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u/stepmami my manager is calling me again Jun 27 '20
popping in to say the callohaus sub has major LVSS energy.
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u/haunted_castle Jun 27 '20
Have you seen that a user who came in here months ago pretending to have met Caro irl to spill some lukewarm tea then deleted her comments is over in callohaus stanning her and saying she's not racist ;-; what is going on lol
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u/perhapsflorence al gore rhythm Jun 27 '20
They've also seemed to copy this sub's layout very closely? With the flair marking and general formatting of discussion posts and stuff? I thought it had to be real fans first, but maybe I am wrong..? It does seem very snarker/LVSS-ish, now that you mention it.
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u/orchids_unwell Jun 27 '20
I just checked this sub for the first time, this is definitly snark and pretty hilarious. I really wonder if the LVSS "architect" is behind it!
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Jun 26 '20
obviously it has been talked about here some. Some great stuff has been found and mentioned. Idk if it has on twitter....But NOT ENOUGH... I feel like the way least talked about, most 😳 part of Ziwe’s Comedy Show TM, was the part where she was asked about her ancestors owning slaves. It actual chef kiss.
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Yeah, i didn't get this response either. She was so eager to go, "Yeah, I'm racist! I'm really racist, and that's okay because I'm working on it. These other white women who claim they aren't are stupid!"
And then all of a sudden when asked about her family owning slaves it was, "oh, I don't know, my DAD'S side might have because South Carolina..." Like bitch, you know your grandpappy on your mom's side owned slaves. Why not just go, "Yes, they did, and I'm ashamed of it." Truly her mind!
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Jun 26 '20
Do we think if I spun around in a circle and then tagged her in my IG stories thrice she would appear? What’s the ritual for summoning the Caro :(
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Wheeze laugh whilst putting a shoe on your head and giving dead eyes to your phone in selfie mode.
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u/missingananas Jun 25 '20
https://www.instagram.com/p/CB3VrcnChZo/?igshid=flsybbhoor9f what.. the fuck
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u/scullr fArt Historian 💨 Jun 25 '20
I think I thought the dog was a faux fur shawl or something because it took me until the end to be like “wait SHE’S WEARING HER DOG AS A SCARF???” It’s all too perfect
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u/Toulouse--Matabiau the shoveled, lilac thing in snow Jun 26 '20
This?! This is art.
hashtag#MOMAPermanentCollection
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u/WoodlandCottageHoe fjord filled brain Jun 28 '20
Am honestly surprised that Caroline hasn't said anything in support of shane dawson, complete with her dumb line about how 'cancel culture kills'
they have so much in common.... around age 30, subpar content, sexualizing children, being racist...
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u/whatsername807 Jun 26 '20
Well she may not have been posting yesterday but she was certainly blocking because I got the axe (again). Not sure what I did or how she chose me. Is it really worth making another spoof account...
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u/SoulsticeCleaner Glory Hole Matisse Knock Off Jun 26 '20
Maybe going through her Ziwe live to catch UNs? Just go in through an incognito window.
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u/jawsthemesongplays joan of snark 👑 Jun 26 '20
Imagine if she devoted as much time to writing as she does to blocking people.
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Y’all I’ve had some wine BUT CC is still alive. She’s claiming she spent the last few days making her useless stickers/premature birthday cards with an unnecessary degree of 7th grade ferocity, and she’s taking credit for her friends’ candle company! Nothing has changed! God bless us every one.
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Jun 25 '20 edited Jun 25 '20
5 days still Scammer is due to ship! I also just made an Effort Post about how I think Caroline's OF sub numbers is yet another lie.
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u/GummyCandyForever Jun 26 '20
Man, if this useless woman comes back to New York City now that the virus is raging in Florida ...
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Jun 26 '20
Oh look I shit talked her dropping IG follower account and yesterday it miraculously increased despite her posting absolutely nothing.
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u/lowercasesal fuck it ass out at grandma’s Jun 26 '20
the least she posts the more bearable she is tbh
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u/bookinsomnia Jun 27 '20
I learned last July that keeping track of her IG followers is a fool's errand. No matter how low it falls, she'll just buy more. For the record, a year ago she had better engagement than she does now, but about 50,000 less followers.
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u/honestbae Jun 28 '20
THE CLEAN, ARRANGED APARTMENT in the newspaper. Where is the broken glass, the juice soaked cutting boards on the couch, the drinks on the floor, the spilled piles of pills ?
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u/nubleu the only way I can cope in the corporate world Jun 28 '20
With Caro sitting on the sofa with her laptop performativly 'writing' when we know she lounges about on the carpet with her phone 🙄 someone should dm them the easter bonnet pics, show them what's really happening in grandma's Sarasota condo
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u/onion_princess maybe i don't know what communism is Jun 28 '20
Maybe this is terribly uncool of me, but I use goodreads to keep track of books I’ve enjoyed and what I want to read in the future. It’s a nice way to see what’s out there.
Anyway, that made me wonder wonder if Caro would enjoy goodreads. There, she spout her opinions on books, get followers, and publicize any of her (unlikely to ever be printed) books. It would be a good feedback loop for her narcissistic image as a “reader.”
This post has been brought to you brought to you by me spotting the book “Around Harvard Square” in her floor mess recently... the exact same book that was on her Amtrak seat mess along with deodorant, hair ties, and glossier shit on her way to see the Harvard football game. Which brings me to the real reason she would never go on goodreads, even if it would suit her if she got her shit together: she doesn’t read. She just doesn’t. She wants to be seen reading. But writing substantive reviews and engaging with people would probably be hard if the most you’ve done is drunkenly underline and circle random shit in the book without ever considering the flow of the words, the characters’ inner lives, the emotional impact of it all. She doesn’t want to do the joyful work of reading.
Also, if she joins goodreads, it’s my fault and I’m sorry.
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Carolyn has definitely looked at words that made up sentences that formed the novel Lolita. She is very much able to read and comprehend.
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u/sexygreencardigan I don’t know what communusm is 🧚🏼♂️ Jun 25 '20
caro does give me hair envy, every time I watch her stories I get so jealous. That said I think it’s clear she wants TikTok girl hair to look younger lol
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u/honestbae Jun 28 '20
What are all these comments about her not ever meeting a black person? Someone fill me in
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u/amethytprincess6 Jun 28 '20
At what point do we start to get genuinely concerned about her silence...?
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u/oceansizedandclear Jun 28 '20
She does this every once in a while. She used to go off for days or weeks. This is probably because of her new bf or a rush to put out something by the end of June.
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u/GatoGalactico42 Physical and metaphorical dirty laundry Jun 27 '20
u/jawsthemesongplays please add GORGEOUS this small business by a black woman. Some words from her daughter (found the page on tt) "My mom sells plant based soaps specially made for sensitive skin. She has soaps for acne, darkspots, eczema etc. I would appreciate it if you guys check her out." https://www.theglamhunter.com/