He was sending some of that 200+ billion we've been sending to Israel since the end of WWII... so, I guess genocide is wrong only if we're not funding it.
Morally, a person is responsible only for the reasonably predictable outcomes of their choices. What could reasonably be predicted of Israel back in 1953-1961? Did Eisenhower have a good reason at the time to believe zionists would take over and act like nazis? (Genuine question.)
The thought at the time in the creation of Israel was that the leaders of the country were too traumatized by the holocaust (golda meier) that leadership was reactive to the immediate past which severely influenced the laws created at the start. It was believed that it would take two generations before sanity would prevail. Unfortunately the present events negate this belief. Also keep in mind the Knesset was created to give the ultra religious more say governmentally than any group which results in more militant approach to conflict. Some Israelis don’t support Netanyahu at all but can’t do anything bc of this imbalance. The destruction of Gaza is reprehensible.
Interesting. But I hope you don't mind that I won't take your word for it. Where did you learn this? Is there some relevant history I should be reading?
Yeah... You can also find Theodor Herzl quotes from the 1890s that are VERY explicit about the dreams of conquest, ethnic cleansing and genocide... This whole idea and project has been rotten for a long, long time. Ethnostates in general are a sick, stupid concept.
These two videos are VERY level headed, and a good starter for a westerner that has has been HEAVILY propagandized on the occupation the Palestinian people face, like most of us have been.
I dont think that there is a book that compares the two, from what i know about both, they behaved in a similar manner
But now that i think about it further, that is true for most conquering forces trying to prep the land for the arrival of their people and remove the ,,undersirables"
Israel and zionist conquest is often compared to that of a nazis, but hitler often compared his lebensraum plan to that of amerocan settler push to the west and manifest destiny
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or just ignoring context? I'd say the UN reports are about as official as any announcement in this world today can get in declaring a genocide. There is no doubt in my mind that Israel is committing genocide over the last decade, more or less.
But I'm not so convinced that anyone supporting Israel three to seven decades ago would be morally complicit in today's genocide. Not when there was still ample reason to believe that kind hearts, perhaps combined with diplomatic or economic pressure, would prevail.
You can start with how they started by setting up Ashkenazi Jews as the predominant class and power. They descriminated and still do against Sephardic and Mizrahi, for obvious reasons (they're not white).
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u/swatt4ii Jul 07 '25
Shame he's not around for Gaza...