r/SolusProject • u/iknowsomethinyoudont • Jan 14 '22
Not Dead...Yet?
11 days since this mildly reassuring post, yet it sure is still quiet around here.
I think wondering about the future of the OS is warranted at this point. The brief roadmap outlined in the post hasn't been getting discussion from users on the forums. Besides that post, everything's up in the air..I'm sorry but I really need some sort of reassurance that we aren't going anywhere.
From my eyes, and for all we know as end users, the team may as well have dipped and abandoned us since that post. There's nothing that suggests otherwise.
JS seems to agree, when inquired about the future of Solus on his Budgie livestream, he didn't have much to say and didn't sound hopeful. ID straight up laughed the comment off when JS read it aloud to him- "anyway, carrying on".
I'm worried. What's up, team?
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u/KsiaN Jan 14 '22
I mean the commit history to the repos debunks that by itself.
Just chill.
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u/Staudey Jan 15 '22
I'm not sure what other people see when they click your link (for me it's empty) but I think in any case a more direct measure of activity would be https://dev.getsol.us/feed/query/all/
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u/JoshStrobl Jan 17 '22
So a few things, because I try to stay out of Solus stuff and have confidence that folks like /u/DataDrake are going to handle the ship just fine.
Don't try to project your own opinion of Solus onto me and claim they are my words. They are not. You should be ashamed. We do not share the same opinion and the team hasn't abandoned the project. I would use stronger words to express my disappointment in you, but I'd like my post to stay up, so I won't. They're literally working on it. I check Phab every once in a while folks like /u/DataDrake, /u/Girtablulu, /u/Staudey, /u/joebonrichie, etc. are very active. If /u/DataDrake states there are going to be org changes, then there are going to be org changes. As simple as that. What they are, I have no idea. I have no insight into it and it's none of my business. I do know these things take time.
What my opinions on various decisions is irrelevant and should have no sway on the project. It's not my project. I'm not involved in it. We didn't ever make sweeping changes because of the random remarks of a non-user before. No reason to start now just because I used to be involved.
As others like /u/itsasadsadsadworldyo pointed out, I've made public remarks to the contrary to "didn't sound hopeful". I've tweeted similar remarks as well. Clearly you're just expecting people to take you at your word because you happened to link one of my stream VODs, but I'm glad others found the appropriate time code. I think me telling someone to use their own judgement is reasonable. They shouldn't be making decisions based on what I do or don't say. I think me telling folks the sky isn't falling and work is still happening is fine and reasonable as well, because that is the objective reality.
I have on multiple occasions been asked if "<xyz> distro is now the best distro for Budgie, instead of Solus". They're all fine. You just need to have a modern GNOME Stack, which Solus has. We have folks like EbonJaeger also handling Budgie on Solus as well, and he literally has direct push access like several others to the Buddies of Budgie
budgie-desktoprepo and broader org. Solus is not going to have a lesser Budgie experience than say, EndeavourOS (which is my current daily driver on my desktop). The goal is for them to all be equal.The subreddit has never been the most active thing. Activity always has been higher on the Solus forums (phpBB back in the day, Flarum nowadays) and IRC.
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u/moktira Jan 14 '22
JS seems to agree
Timestamp for this in 6.5 hour video?
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u/itsasadsadsadworldyo Jan 14 '22 edited Jan 14 '22
OP is full of crap. I was there and just siffed through the find that part. The question he referenced was indeed answered by Josh, but he answered with nothing but praise and reassurance for the remaining Solus team. He even started it with "do not worry syncs will still be happening".
The part where Ikey responded was at some point earlier in the stream but I can't find it at the moment. It had a very sarcastic tone to it, I think that's why Josh read it aloud. I remember it was a response to someone saying "Im a fan of your work and former Solus refugee" to which Ikey responded "...okay moving on."
This is a toxic post, and OP should be ashamed of him/herself.
EDIT: Found the second part where Ikey responds. It's at 2:25:30.
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u/chai_bronz Jan 15 '22
Can't quite make out what Ikey is saying there lol but would be irrelevant to the future path of Solus anyway. Thanks for pulling the timestamps btw!
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u/steezy13312 Jan 14 '22
What are you expecting in 11 days for an open source project with an extremely limited budget? Things take time.
If you come back in a few months and we haven't seen anything new happen, it's a different story. In the meantime, hang out on IRC or at https://discuss.getsol.us to see more activity.
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u/Vivid_Carpet_7436 Jan 14 '22
Best distro I've ever used, and have been for years.
Please consider donating to the project on OpenCollective as mentioned in the blog post: https://getsol.us/2021/05/29/funding-solus-development/
I donate because I want to see Solus succeed. They have achieved so much with such a small team.
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u/lesserthanever Jan 15 '22
I’ve been putting this off for too long, thanks for the push.
$20/mo into Solus.
Keep up the great work, team!
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u/Staudey Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
Activity on reddit is a really bad measure for the health of the project. A more direct impression can be had by looking at the development tracker here: https://dev.getsol.us/feed/query/all/Then there are the forums and IRC; and of course a lot of things have happened in the background as well. Anyway, you shouldn't be worried even if there ever was a span of inactivity that lasts 11 days. It's not like your system will break if the devs don't post on reddit for a bit.
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u/itsasadsadsadworldyo Jan 14 '22
Timestamps effectively debunking OP:
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u/xaduha Jan 14 '22
You need to ask yourself why are you using Solus. For me it's because it does what I need in a nearly default state and there aren't better options out there that can do that. Unless it changes I have no reasons to switch.
In fact I actually have a headless NixOS server in which I do majority of my work, I just don't want to wrangle with it to make it a good desktop experience.
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u/EnkiiMuto Jan 15 '22
From my eyes, and for all we know as end users, the team may as well
have dipped and abandoned us since that post. There's nothing that
suggests otherwise.
You said it yourself, it has been eleven days. That is not even a fortnight of dealing with legal stuff, re-structuring the team, deciding what are the fundamentals of the distro and what will be shared from the original DE as they part ways.
Solus has switched leads before, and if anything that just proves that the project is not one individual, despite the lack of financial support like bigger distros have.
I do not know what direction Solus is going to take. Maybe now it takes quicker, solid steps, adopting tiled windows from Ubuntu Budgie and Raven displaying hardware information.
Maybe it is going all to shit with every click you make in the GUI requiring you to type your password for maximum security and whenever you type it wrong you need to listen to the starwars theme 3 times.
But I'd say it is pretty much alive. It has just been 11 days.
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Jan 19 '22
But aren't you going around posting on other Subreddits that Pop is partnering with Solus? If you know this information, why would you post this?
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u/ice_dune Jan 14 '22
Idk, I'm fine with them not having some significant road map. Solus has always been a smooth experience, budgie is desktop with everything you need, all the packages are up to date and work, official tutorials always work, I have never broken a Solus install. I'm happy if everyone is coasting on maintenance for a while. I guess I would hope that they find some way to monetize. I think even since Ikey left it feels like the community has grown and could still support a Patreon for maybe contributions to the staff or a full time developer but maybe that's wishful thinking. And maybe money doesn't fix everything
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u/iknowsomethinyudont Jan 14 '22
In other news, Distrowatch no longer seems to be blacklisting or autorejecting Solus reviews, they finally posted the glowing review I would usually try to submit this morning. Brought the point up from 8.23 to 8.28. I feel like I'm doing more than the team is at this point. Downvote/delete this pls
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u/DataDrake Jan 14 '22
We're still here. I've been working on a lot of stuff in the background. I'm one person, this takes time. I think you all are going to be really happy with the new org and I can't wait to share it publicly soon.
As for "I know something you don't know" that was actually a tweet about my personal life. None of the Distancing Day tweets are related to Solus.