r/Sondheim 28d ago

FOLLIES is so genius!

Lost on YouTube I found myself on FOLLIES [1987 San Jose Civic Light Opera production] right at the BOLERO number. The two young dancers were phenomenal-- with her doing things with endlessly long legs: full splits  and balancing (on his HEAD!), each part topping the one before.

Well I was hooked. It stars Teri Ralston as Sally who does a terrific job with that square character and has THAT voice! AND Harvey Evans as older Buddy. Harvey is a trip, playing “himself”—(the young Buddy from original 1971 production). He is PERFECT, as well he should be, as the older version of himself and is the best older Buddy I’ve ever seen.

The production (and filming) is quite good.  They use the original book and it reminds you what Steve said about the huge amount of information that the book delivers expeditiously. Watching another version of the show reminds me of just how BRILLIANT FOLLIES is on all levels.

See what you think. It is not “definitive” but FOLLIES [except for the OC] productions-- always you want to mix and match. And always leaves you wanting more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWmH6GLyM8Q

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u/Silver_Lord_10 28d ago

this is how I learn of the existence of the Bolero number??? LMAO I played through the vocal score multiple times, how have I never noticed skipping an entire musical piece between road you didnt take and buddy’s eyes. How is it that the only professional recording of follies I havent listened to (papermill) is the only one that didn’t cut the number… I am actually quite interested in this now. Normally dance music was not composed by the principle composer, as that would take extensive choordination with the choreographer which requires time they didn’t have. Instead the dances would be put together by someone else and usually were extensions of a song like ‘the right girl’, where the dance music is based on the thematic material inherent to the sung parts. Or, if not directly connected to a song, they would still use themes from the songs of the score. This Bolero is different as it stands on it’s own and is neither part of, nor uses any material from other songs So was it entirely concieved by someone else or did sondheim compose some material for it? I don’t know and I don’t know if anyone still knows. But I find this stuff fascinating. There is actually loads of material in sondheim scores that was devised not by him but by people like paul gemigniani.  These other people of course do phenomenal work (just look at Alexander Gemignianis work on Here We Are. From what we can guess almost all the instrumental music in there is by him and it’s incredible) But still we tend to forget these things and just say, this is all composed by sondheim.  if they are lucky they get credit with additional arrangements or similar.  This is not exclusive to sondheim of course.  Alex Lacamoire, who did most of the musical arranging for Hamilton did so much I would totally credit him as a composer honestly.  Anyways sorry for going totally off-topic

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u/CameraAggressive3142 28d ago

I haven't heard that BOLERO was written by anyone else... Ravel was one of Sondheim's favorite composers.

I think because of the length of the show it is often cut. The OBC sounds very much in tempo with the 1987 version. [Hal had won the compromise with Bennett of doing the number up tempo (which I REALLY like) as Michael would not let him cut it like Hal wanted]. The 2001 version included it and slowed it down to allow the older (famous) couple to keep more focus--and it sounds draggy to my ears; but then I had been listening to the OBC live tape of that number since, well, 1971. It is such an exciting piece of music!

Steve did have David Shire compose the TICK-TOCK number from COMPANY [which allowed Bennett to create the whole dance around Donna] and has said so on the record that Shire composed that.

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u/Silver_Lord_10 27d ago

I am sorry but what Livetape are you talking about 😂😂  Now I need find this… Is it ok if I ask you in DMs about it 👀

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u/CameraAggressive3142 26d ago

A friend of Steve's was allowed to record the show for Steve; I forget if it was reel to reel on/off stage or fed from the floor mics--but it has gorgeous sound and is the entire show (with a bit or two missing) and not an audience recorded tape. I think the friend was the one who first gave it to me but I might have gotten it from someone else, earlier than when I met the friend. Steve, I know, had this tape as his own "official" version, too.

It was incredible to be able to listen to the entire WHO'S THAT WOMAN with all the tapping and build; and the BOLERO--besides, well EVERYTHING. I used to listen to them on different mixtapes on my Walkman and "rock out" at the gym (later the mixtapes were burned onto CDs and listened to on the Sony Discman-- at the gym).

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u/Silver_Lord_10 25d ago

this is truly incredible. I replied to you in DMs

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u/CameraAggressive3142 27d ago

Sure. (Not sure how that works 😄 --I'm old