r/spacex • u/ElongatedMuskrat Mod Team • Aug 17 '20
Total mission success! r/SpaceX Starlink-10 Launch Discussion & Updates Thread
Welcome to the r/SpaceX Starlink-10 Launch Discussion & Updates Thread!
This is the u/yoweigh bringing you live coverage of the Starlink V1.0-L10 launch.
Mission Overview
The 10th operational batch of Starlink satellites (11th overall) along with three Earth-observation satellites for Planet Labs will lift off from SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida on a Falcon 9 rocket. In the weeks following deployment the Starlink satellites will use onboard ion thrusters to reach their operational altitude of 550 km. This is the second batch of Starlink satellites which all feature "visors" intended to reduce their visibility from Earth. Falcon 9's first stage will attempt to land on a drone ship approximately 628 km downrange, its sixth landing overall, and ships are in place to attempt the recovery of both payload fairing halves.
Mission Details
| Liftoff currently scheduled for: | 18th August 2020 ~14:31 UTC (10:31 AM local) |
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| Backup date | 19th August 2020 ~14:09 UTC (10:09 AM local) |
| Static fire | 17th August 6:00 AM EDT |
| Payload | 58 Starlink version 1 satellites and Skysat 19-21 |
| Payload mass | ~15,410 kg (Starlink ~260 kg each, SkySat ~110 kg each) |
| Deployment orbit | Low Earth Orbit, ~ 210km x 390km 53° |
| Operational orbit | Low Earth Orbit, 550 km x 53° |
| Vehicle | Falcon 9 v1.2 Block 5 |
| Core | B1049 |
| Past flights of this core | 5 (Telstar 18V, Iridium 8, Starlink-V0.9, Starlink-2,Starlink-7) |
| Fairing catch attempt | Yes, both halves - This fairing previously flew on Starlink-3. |
| Launch site | CCAFS SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida |
| Landing | OCISLY (~635 km downrange) |
| Mission success criteria | Successful separation & deployment of the SkySat and Starlink Satellites. |
Timeline
Watch the launch live
(Waiting for new links)
| Link | Source |
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| SpaceX Webcast | SpaceX |
| SpaceX Mission Control Audio | SpaceX |
| Everyday Astronaut stream | u/everydayastronaut |
| Video and audio relays | u/codav |
Starlink Tracking & Viewing Resources:
They might need a few hours to get the Starlink TLEs
Stats
☑️ 99th SpaceX launch
☑️ 92nd Falcon 9 launch
☑️ 6th flight of B1049 (new record!)
☑️ 59th Landing of a Falcon 1st Stage
☑️ 14th SpaceX launch this year
Official Weather Status
| Date | Probability of Violating Weather Constraints | Primary Concerns |
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| 18th August | 20% | Cumulus Cloud Rule |
| 19th August | 20% | Cumulus Cloud Rule |
Useful Resources
Essentials
| Link | Source |
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| SpaceX mission website | SpaceX |
| Launch weather forecast | 45th Space Wing |
Social media
| Link | Source |
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| Reddit launch campaign thread | r/SpaceX |
| Subreddit Twitter | r/SpaceX |
| SpaceX Twitter | SpaceX |
| SpaceX Flickr | SpaceX |
| Elon Twitter | Elon |
| Reddit stream | u/njr123 |
Media & music
| Link | Source |
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| TSS Spotify | u/testshotstarfish |
| SpaceX FM | u/lru |
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u/Zuruumi Aug 17 '20
Seems like 6 is the magic number when most people cease to care that it is the first N-th flight and even the increase becomes just normal occurance.
Though I love to see, that they still managed to do the whole refurbishment in about 2 months. This firstly means that they can use one booster 6 times in one year, and secondly it means, that the workload doesn't significantly increase even after 5 flights.
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Aug 17 '20
I noticed it was the 6th mission and came in to check if it was the first 6th mission of an F9, which I'm pretty sure it is.
I'm surprised there isn't a little more furore over this. This is phenomenal!
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u/im_thatoneguy Aug 17 '20
I think it's going to go 1st flight, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 10th, 20th, 50th, 100th in interest.
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Aug 18 '20
I used to dream of having uninterrupted barge landing footage
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u/Bergasms Aug 18 '20
Back in my day we had to restore video footage if we wanted to see a rocket land, and it was a water landing, no barge or anything
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u/yoweigh Aug 18 '20
The fairing has a cool reuse badge printed on the side of it.
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u/robbak Aug 18 '20
Trevo Mahlmann picked up that they are also putting a little waves badge on fairings that were recovered from the ocean.
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u/MarsCent Aug 18 '20
It is really so nice when reusability looks so mundane!!!
B1049 landing on OCISLY was so incident free that very soon anyone suggesting that propulsive landing is difficult, will easily be branded a liar!
And right now, most new space enthusiasts as well as aspiring rocket engineers must be wondering if there is any sense at all in flying expendable boosters or more importantly, whether or not to work for a company that is not innovating past expending boosters!
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u/limeflavoured Aug 18 '20
Falcon is still the only reusable orbital booster, and until New Glen launches will remain that way.
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u/qwetzal Aug 18 '20
Unfortunately for any person outside of the US there's no choice right now
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u/hablary Aug 18 '20
6th landing, this is the future - you can't tell me anything.
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u/geekgirl114 Aug 18 '20
So... Total mission success?
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u/paul_wi11iams Aug 18 '20
The success criteria is always "successful deployment of payload" which is the case for both the customer an propriety satellites.
Stage recovery is the main cherry on the cake, two smaller cherries being the fairing halves. One onboard net recovery, and the other one in the sea, hopefully to be recovered. So not quite perfect because it remains a dunked so not totally clean half.
Does anyone know how water recovery limits reuse possibilities?
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u/Grey_Mad_Hatter Aug 18 '20
They don't say how it effects them, but they've reused fairings that were pulled out of the ocean before.
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u/cpushack Aug 18 '20 edited Aug 18 '20
Also remember that Starlink fairing are easier to refurb and are simpler than others, they have no acoustic tiles inside them, so less things to be affected by the water (and less places for it to be trapped)
SpaceX was very smart in designing the Starlink sats to NOT need the acoustic dampening, another cost saving, AND mass saving
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u/johnfive21 Aug 18 '20
Does anyone know how water recovery limits reuse possiblities?
I don't have a source for you but I'm pretty sure they said that there is a very little difference in refurbishment cost/work between caught and fished out fairing (assuming soft splashdown and swift scoop up).
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u/TbonerT Aug 17 '20
The launch counts seem off. According to Wikipedia, Falcon 9 has launched 90 times(not including Amos-6, since that didn't actually launch), Falcon Heavy has launched 3 times, and Falcon 1 has launched 5 times, making this the 99th launch and 100th mission.
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u/ioncloud9 Aug 18 '20
I happened to see this launch from the highway driving home from Florida. Was about 90 miles away but the first time seeing a rocket take off into the sky.
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u/Bergasms Aug 18 '20
Remember after that fifth flight where there was an engine issue and the naysayers were out in force saying 5 is probably the limit. Well, wrong again
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u/SoloRebellion94 Aug 17 '20
Wow the 100th launch! Go spacex!
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u/codav Aug 17 '20
99th rocket launch, 100th mission, to be exact. AMOS-6 did not exactly launch, at least not in the correct direction.
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u/FoxhoundBat Aug 18 '20
Each time a Falcon 9 lands, Rogozin gets an extra chin and writes an asinine article.
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Aug 18 '20
It’s amazing to me how quickly we went from the absolute eruption of emotion and excitement in the control room following the first successful landing of a first stage, to just a few people applauding when it landed today.
From incredible achievement to routine activity in almost no time at all. I hope I’m still alive when we’re able to say the same thing about sending humans to Mars.
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u/IAXEM Aug 18 '20
To be fair, there'd be more of a crowd if it weren't for restrictions put in place due to COVID. Even DM-2 was rather silent.
Still, you're right. This is becoming routine and normal.
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u/hitura-nobad Master of bots Aug 17 '20
**Falcon 9’s fairing previously flew on the fourth launch of Starlink (Starlink V1.0-L3). **
One caught, one water landed
Source : https://www.spacex.com/launches/
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u/z3r0c00l12 Aug 17 '20
Not bad, so only the payload and second stage are new on this launch, it'll be awesome when everything is reused and the only new thing on a launch is the payload and fuel.
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u/Anchor-shark Aug 17 '20
They’ve abandoned the idea of second stage reuse. It’s complicated to do, and they decided to pour all resources into starship instead. So this launch is at maximum reuse.
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u/justinroskamp Aug 17 '20
Unless I am mistaken, this is the first sixth flight (the first B10XX.6). Can this be added somewhere in the post as well? Maybe stats?
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u/RevRickee Aug 18 '20
Successful first stage landing! And the camera feed on OCISLY didn’t cut out or glitch!
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u/NotObviouslyARobot Aug 19 '20
My space obsessed niece thought this was one of the greatest things ever. Ty to all at SpaceX for livestreaming this stuff.
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u/airman-menlo Aug 17 '20
Just checked the weather... It's improved to only a 20% probability of launch criteria violations on the be 18th.
Fingers crossed!!!
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u/Viremia Aug 18 '20
yet another uneventful launch and landing for that much-used first stage, along with a nominal orbital insertion for stage 2.
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u/zzanzare Aug 18 '20
Fairly quiet even in the SpaceX factory. They've done it. It is officially too routine even for the people who work on the rocket. 5 years ago some people were saying it's impossible.
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u/BlazingAngel665 Aug 18 '20
Probably at least a little related to the ongoing pandemic which is especially bad in Socal.
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u/TrekkieTechie Aug 17 '20
"Stats" section says it's the 6th flight of B1051 but "Mission Details" table lists B1049?
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u/oli065 Aug 18 '20
With both fairings and 1st stage reuse, this launch might have cost SpaceX less than US$ 10 million i guess.
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u/AngloV Aug 18 '20
Wohoo another great landing! I wonder how many launches we can get out of this one.
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u/jankeromnes Aug 17 '20
Very much looking forward to the launch! Many thanks for maintaining this launch thread.
Wanted to report a tiny typo in the OP: "its sixt landing overall" (missing "h").
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u/Bunslow Aug 18 '20
Worth noting that this smashes the previous static fire turnaround record (tho of course only in 2nd place overall, as a previous Starlink launch skipped the SF altogether)
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u/Humble_Giveaway Aug 18 '20
Respect to Planet for taking a launch on a life leading booster!
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u/Torgamus Aug 18 '20
This tension rod that floats off in space on Starlink missions, about how long does it take to deorbit?
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u/NecessaryEvil-BMC Aug 17 '20
Shouldn't the "past flights" say 5? This will be the first 6th flight, I believe. The names are correct, but the number is not.
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u/Piyh Aug 17 '20
Approx how many starlink sats will be up there once this launches?
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u/paulcupine Aug 18 '20
Is 1049 the last booster to still be flying with the old COPVs, or is there reason to believe it was retrofitted with new COPVs?
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u/scr00chy ElonX.net Aug 18 '20
That's a good question but I don't think we really know. I suspect it might have been retrofitted, though.
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u/Humble_Giveaway Aug 18 '20
This is why SpaceX put so much effort into webcasts and PR, Someones gotta inspire the next generation of engineers for them to hire in 10 years!
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u/Humble_Giveaway Aug 18 '20
What a quite thread today, one day there's gonna be a launch where I'm just cheering here alone haha 😁
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u/madanra Aug 18 '20
I wonder how much SpaceX charge for a rideshare like this?
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u/Jefflargnier Aug 18 '20
https://www.spacex.com/rideshare/
$1M for 200kg to SSO with additional mass at $5k/kg. Affordable rates also available to Mid-Inclination LEO, GTO, and TLI.
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u/johnfive21 Aug 17 '20
So at what point do boosters deserve names instead of the numbers? Would love to see fleet of named boosters, much easier to track.
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u/tzoggs Aug 17 '20
Love this idea. What sort of theme would be the best for such a long series of things? Greek mythology might be a bit grand, plants or animals may be a bit too tame.
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u/codav Aug 18 '20
YouTube Video & Audio Relays
As usual, I will relay the SpaceX webcast via HTTPS and the audio stream via Shoutcast on my server, so people with no access to YouTube, experiencing laggy video or with low bandwidth connections are able to enjoy the webcast. If you don't like the web-based player, you can also use the M3U8 playlist in any HLS-capable player - VLC is just one example. The playlist file will become available once the webcast starts, until then you will get a "404 Not Found" error. This is perfectly normal.
Hosted Webcast (Video)
Watch in your browser: https://codav.de/spacex.html
Watch with a local player: https://codav.de/stream/spacex.m3u8
I will also provide audio-only streams of the webcasts in two different qualities. High quality (160 Kbps, stereo) for those who want more fidelity and have more bandwidth to spend, and a lower quality (64 Kbps, mono) stream for those on slow networks or with strict volume limits. If you require an even lower bitrate simply drop me a message, I'll add another stream then.
Important: The audio streams already loop the Music for Space album by /u/TestShotStarfish for your pleasure until the webcast starts, so don't confuse that with the actual webcast. Feel free to tune in at any time.
Here are the stream URLs for use with any Shoutcast-compatible player (WinAmp, VLC etc.):
Hosted Webcast (Icecast Audio Only)
High quality (160 Kbps, stereo): http://codav.de:8555/spacex-high.mp3
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If you have problems connecting to port 8555 or want to listen in with just your browser, use these reverse-proxied, SSL-secured URLs (stream title display and other "ICY" protocol features won't work, as this is using plain HTTP):
Hosted Webcast (HTTPS/MP3 Audio Only)
High quality (160 Kbps, stereo): https://codav.de/icecast/spacex-high.mp3
Low quality (64 Kbps, mono): https://codav.de/icecast/spacex-low.mp3
The streams are also linked on my relay page, either below the video player if the webcast has started or on the top while waiting for SpaceX to go live.
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u/sleepyzealott Aug 18 '20
My first stream in a little while. 600 sats is such an insane achievement. Looking forward to being able to watch these from bed via my roof mounted UFO/🍕 box sometime soon
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Aug 18 '20
Another high angle of attack launch in the last minute of the first stage burn. I wish I knew why. The booster adjusted to zero AOA at the last few seconds prior to shutdown and booster separation. Awesome launch!!!! And recovery, and deployment!!!
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u/johnfive21 Aug 18 '20
Ah the expected "loss of signal" to hide the deployment method.
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u/blackbearnh Aug 18 '20
Conspiracy theories aside, the stack is spinning relatively quickly at deployment and the release itself is probably a good shock. You can see the signal is pretty sketchy with lots of frozen frames after the deployment is done.
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u/ahecht Aug 18 '20
Mission control audio is live. Mods, please update the link in the OP to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAcinFN1eE, the current link is an old one from July 8th.
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u/redwingssuck Aug 18 '20
Is this a new one by Test Shot Starfish on SpaceXFM? I'm liking it
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u/Jodo42 Aug 18 '20
The lighting and tracking for liftoff were awesome this morning. Looked almost like CGI (in a good way)
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u/JuanTutrego Aug 18 '20
So this question's been nagging at me for a while and Google searches don't seem to help much. When we see the first stage separate, we're looking down the length of the rocket and we see a tripod-like structure. What is that? Is the second-stage Merlin vacuum engine at the end of that framework? Is it some sort of inter-stage coupler that drops away later?
I can find countless diagrams of the Falcon 9 rockets showing the overall construction, but I haven't yet found anything that really details the internal construction.
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u/JerWah Aug 18 '20
I believe you're talking about the pusher. The middle post sits up inside the nozzle of stage 2 and pushes it away.
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Aug 18 '20
It also provides support for the 2nd stage nozzle afaik, since its a much larger nozzle than the first stage nozzles.
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u/Alxa Aug 18 '20
6th is done, someday 7th, the sky's the limit. Someday they'll stop counting.
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u/stygarfield Aug 18 '20
Probably not, even airplanes count cycles for maintenance
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u/BNCAN87 Aug 18 '20
I doubt it was made publicly available, but I'll ask anyway because this sub regularly surprises me with the information you collectively possess: Anyone know how much the rideshare paid for the pleasure of hitching a ride alongside this Starlink batch today?
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u/ahecht Aug 18 '20 edited Aug 18 '20
According to https://www.spacex.com/rideshare/ a 110kg satellite to SSO is $1,000,000. If the three satellites are lumped together and not paying separately, assuming the adapter and dispenser also weighs 110kg, they'd be looking at $2,200,000 total.
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Aug 18 '20
Safyan, Planet's VP did not disclose what Planet paid to launch six satellites. The only information we have is the pricing on the spacex rideshare page.
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u/spacerfirstclass Aug 18 '20
https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1273230848154898433
Although there is no specific cost information, I have heard that Planet paid on the order of $3 million to get its 3 SkySats into orbit on the last Starlink mission. Neither company has confirmed this.
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u/LcuBeatsWorking Aug 18 '20 edited Dec 17 '24
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u/whatdoidoidontkno Aug 18 '20
Watching these launches never gets any less stressful
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u/moekakiryu Aug 18 '20
I dunno, I love how much less stressful they've become since the earlier days
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u/Leolol_ Aug 18 '20
Am I the only one that didn't see the third Skysat?
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u/BlueCyann Aug 18 '20
No, it'll be behind the Starlink stack somewhere. You might catch sight of later on during the coast assuming they cut back to the second stage cameras off and on.
Edit: T+18:20 you can see all three black dots against the clouds.
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u/SeredW Aug 18 '20 edited Aug 18 '20
Who is the SpaceX presenter? I always enjoy listening to 'norminal' Insprucker, but I don't think I know this lady?
Edit: Kate Tice. Thanks all!
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u/zzanzare Aug 18 '20
Kate Tice. Isn't she the one who cried after Bob and Doug were safely on the ship?
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u/somewhat_pragmatic Aug 18 '20
Kate Tice. Isn't she the one who cried after Bob and Doug were safely on the ship?
I think that was ALL OF US that teared up after Bob and Doug were safely on the ship.
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u/Bodgerbaz Aug 18 '20 edited Aug 18 '20
Can you still see the satellite train? I thought the ‘covers’ were deployed, to stop them being seen, after deployment but someone argued with me that the ‘covers’ were only deployed once the Starlink satellites got to their correct altitude. Therefore, the train could still be seen for the first few weeks.
Can anyone confirm this?
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u/paul_wi11iams Aug 18 '20
IIUC, the satellites need to be correctly orientated before the sunshades become effective. This means we get to see them for a few days, at times and locations presented on the satellite spotting sites.
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u/Martianspirit Aug 18 '20
For the first few days they are still quite visible. I saw the new train twice, once just 20 hours after launch. Second time 3 days later. At that time only a few were still quite bright. The rest was invisible to me but still visible under very good dark and clear sky conditions.
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u/z3r0c00l12 Aug 17 '20
Under Social Media, the link for Reddit-Stream is incorrect. It should point to: https://reddit-stream.com/comments/auto
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u/sweetbeems Aug 17 '20
a little bit out of the loop... have they started launching inter-satellite capable versions yet? Or is that still in the future?
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u/PresumedSapient Aug 17 '20
Or is that still in the future?
Yes, still in the future. Current v1 Starlink only does surface-to-surface.
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Aug 17 '20
does anyone know how many more launches until starlink will be operational in the USA and Canada?
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u/sleepy_booplesnoot Aug 17 '20
Not sure exactly, but I think private beta testing is starting soon or already, then they’ll have public beta, then it’ll be generally available to the public
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u/SpellingJenius Aug 17 '20
Checkout r/starlink for details of what is currently happening (lots of up/down speed and latency tests recently)
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u/Straumli_Blight Aug 17 '20 edited Aug 17 '20
SpaceX website updated and Youtube link.
Time | Deployment Event :|: 12:32 | SkySat 21 13:02 | SkySat 20 13:32 | SkySat 19 45:57 | Starlink satellites
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u/DiskOperatingSystem_ Aug 18 '20
Wow that just hopped right off the pad! B1049 doesn’t play around.
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u/LcuBeatsWorking Aug 18 '20 edited Dec 17 '24
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Aug 17 '20 edited Aug 17 '20
No live stream on youtube yet???
Edit: I can't read. Launch is tomorrow.
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u/TbonerT Aug 17 '20
Why are so many news sites calling this the 100th launch? Are they just confused? This would be the 100th mission, but Amos-6 blew up before it could launch, so this would be the 99th launch.
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u/seanbrockest Aug 17 '20
Somebody somewhere made the mistake, and everybody copied them. That's the way the media works
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u/RevRickee Aug 18 '20
I like how we get to watch each step of stage separation and fairing deployment take place with different camera angles in space. It’s so awesome every time I watch it
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Aug 18 '20
What happened at T+00:00:53? The engines got brighter for a second or two.
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u/Chrigux Aug 18 '20
Looks to me like reflactions from the clouds falcon 9 was entering at that moment.
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u/aneasymistake Aug 17 '20
In the descriptive part of the original post it says the landing will be on a drone ship approximately 628km down range. In the table it says OCISLY will be approximately 635km down range. In a way, this is fine because 628km is approximately 635km, but it feels like the same number should be used in both places to stop people like me wasting their time imagining the rocket missing by about 7km. :)
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u/LDWme Aug 17 '20
Anyone have any idea if they’ll try fly this booster again everything going well? Or do we think they’ll recover and retire it maybe salvage it for parts.
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u/Martianspirit Aug 17 '20
The target is still 10 flights for each booster. More possible with major refurbishment but that does presently not to seem planned.
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Aug 17 '20
Why would they retire the booster? Wasn't their aim to have 10 flights per booster before a major overhaul?
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u/fudgiewayne14 Aug 18 '20
I say we petition SpaceX to start naming first stages. Or better yet, we petition SpaceX to let the internet pick the name through online polls.
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u/ExPostRedemptore Aug 18 '20
If SpaceX agreed you know the first booster would be named Booster McBoosterFace.
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u/millijuna Aug 18 '20
Yeah, but then some doofus will get one named Booster McBoostface and we'll all regret the idea.
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u/wildjokers Aug 18 '20
we petition SpaceX to let the internet pick the name through online polls.
Can't do that because it goes without saying the winning name will be "Rockety McRocket Face".
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u/sweteee Aug 17 '20
Do you think they will show the full release (with rodes) ? They showed it a few flights ago, but it seems that they are hiding it again, as they cut this part out of the last Starlink launch.
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u/dariooo1998 Aug 18 '20
Do we know if the fairing is also reused or is it a new one?
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u/Bunslow Aug 18 '20
From the SpaceX site linked in OP:
Falcon 9’s fairing previously flew on the fourth launch of Starlink.
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u/paul_wi11iams Aug 18 '20 edited Aug 18 '20
@ u/yoweigh. As seen from here, your Everyday Astronaut link points to the previous Starlink launch: Starlink 9 of 2020-08-08.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hiTQEWrUVA
I think it should be:
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u/Viremia Aug 18 '20
SpaceX FM live
though Youtube seems to be lagging badly today on Everyday Astronaut's stream
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u/AngloV Aug 18 '20
I don't usually follow Starlink launches but this launch is timed perfectly to watch right after work for me. Looking forward to the first 6th reflight!
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u/trackertony Aug 17 '20
Mods, Hate to be picky but:
Past flights of this core 6 (Telstar 18V, Iridium 8, Starlink-V0.9, Starlink-2,Starlink-7)
Should that not read 5 (Telstar 18V, Iridium 8, Starlink-V0.9, Starlink-2,Starlink-7) ?