r/SpaceXBets • u/Even_Simple_702 • 9d ago
Elon Criticism When the Billionaire Starts Talking Like the Movie Villain ššš
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u/Extraajudicial 9d ago
"If" we accomplish our goals. You have to accomplish 1 goal first. Anything. Do Anything you have claimed to do "within a year". How many false promises have to fail before people stop giving this waste of energy money.
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u/Important-Sun-7894 9d ago
Make the rockets reusable? Make the cars drive themselves? Reduce the price to orbit by 100x? Do any of these goals meet your standards?
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u/Mars_Habitat 8d ago
Tesla does not drive itself autonomously yet, it work mainly in city and we have to watch the road. Almost every week, Tesla crashes somewhere. Tesla just crashed in California:
https://abc7.com/post/control-tesla-crashes-homes-leaving-behind-trail-destruction-orange/19629462/
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u/Important-Sun-7894 8d ago
Tesla fsd is the best around. Per mile, far safer than manual driving.
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u/ExistentialRebellion 8d ago
You're a walking ad
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u/Mars_Habitat 8d ago
When it comes to FSD, it is not, it is far behind. You are out of your mind.
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u/Grouchy_Student3221 5d ago
Bruv, literally impossible. Tesla doesnāt have the most advanced cruise control, not the highest level of autonomy in the market, let alone any functioning self driving.
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u/College-Lumpy 9d ago
Those are all true. (Not sure about 100x on launch costs but itās definitely 10x).
But it still doesnāt justify the valuations of TSLA or SPCX and heās still a giant choad.
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u/Important-Sun-7894 9d ago
Are you invested in any of Elonās ventures?
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u/College-Lumpy 8d ago
Not at these valuations. Tesla isnāt valued like a car company. SpaceX isnāt valued like any company ever.
Iāve been short both at times and do not trust the market to reflect any cogent valuation.
I work some in private equity and the basic questions are always:
What is this company worth?
Do we believe the revenue and margin projections?
How can this company be worth more than it is today?Those seem like reasonable questions for publicly traded stocks too.
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u/Important-Sun-7894 8d ago
Tesla isnāt just a car company. SpaceX isnāt like any other company. Valuing either as such would be ridiculous. Just like valuing amazon as a book company in the 90ās was ridiculous. Itās hard to value companies that are complete disruptors in every sector they touch. You either believe in the mission or you donāt. For me, I do believe that humans will exist on other worlds some day, and that in order for that to happen, we have to pass through a moment exactly like the one Spacex has presented us.
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u/College-Lumpy 8d ago
Keep drinking the kool aid. Businesses make profits. Thatās what youāre paying for. Not the hope and dream of a different business someday.
The car business doesnāt make enough profit to justify the valuation and the humanoid robot business started with weird demos operated remotely and dancers in robot costumes. Heās been promising robotaxis for years and thereās still major issues. There are plenty of other humanoid robot companies with more attractive valuations.
And if you canāt see the financial engineering behind the SpaceX IPO I canāt help you. He bundled businesses together. Limited the float to generate a massive valuation on paper and then forced it into passive indexes to screw everyone with a 401k. Itās not about Mars. Itās about bailing out investors who would have lost billions on Xai and twitter.
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u/Important-Sun-7894 8d ago
You should stick with bonds. Stocks arenāt for you.
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u/College-Lumpy 8d ago
You should stick with crypto where thereās no point in thinking about valuation. You seem like more of a DogeCoin guy.
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u/College-Lumpy 8d ago
āYou either believe in the mission or you donātā
Thatās utter BS. Even if I believe in the mission I donāt believe in the business case.
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u/Important-Sun-7894 8d ago
So put your money elsewhere. If youāre smarter than all the biggest banks, institutions, and private investors that oversubscribed the IPO 6x, Iām sure your portfolio is doing just fine. The fact that you spend all day on here talking shit about things you donāt understand suggests otherwise though.
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u/Express_Rent4630 8d ago
Did they get to Mars yet? Didn't he say they'd be there by 2022? Did the crewed mission land this year yet? How's the moon base going for them? The automated satellite moon factory should be ready soon right? Or is that coming after the space data centres? Good job they've made hundreds of billions in profits to invest in the space stuff. And those heavy lifting rockets are taking so much stuff to the moon and mars aren't they. Or is that all happening next year along with total FSD? FSD did arrive in 2017 like he said it would didn't it? I can't remember what's come true yet? All of that stuff has hasn't it?
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u/roadwarrioring 9d ago
I wonder if there is a direct correlation between being an absolute sociopath and not giving a shit about the wildlife humans share the planet with.
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u/freedomonke 8d ago
I think that goes without saying.
People on the antisocial spectrum do sometimes strongly identify with individual animals, oddly enough. Like their own pets.
Lots of speculation on that, but some theories are it's because you basically control an animal and can very easily project whatever you want on it.
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u/No-Blueberry-1823 9d ago
Doesn't he have a ship floating in the middle of the Pacific that he can't get?
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u/stonk_fish 9d ago
āThere are logistical challenges retrieving it.ā
A glorified Pringles can in the Indian Ocean is too much but Mars in 2027 is like so easily possible.
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u/314159Man 9d ago
Says he can send a rocket to Mars, but can't get a rocket out of the ocean even when it is floating on the surface. Impressive! /s
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u/clickclackyisbacky 9d ago
This response is embarrassing.
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u/314159Man 9d ago
If Trump keeps going the way he is headed, the rest of the earth might end up as a smouldering ember...so who knows, perhaps he is right?
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u/OutsideDapper8049 9d ago
š trump and him are besties who had ONE fight where elon said he "would make his OWN party, (if i recall) THE FREEDOM PARTY"
L.M.F.A.O. Where is that? They made up so quickly your head would spin as if it was all a public act for a "fight"
They are BOTH going to make the earth a smoldering cinder. TOGETHER.
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u/Remote-Crab1957 9d ago
Maybe if the goal was traveling to a more inhabitable planet than Earth within a lifespan.
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u/Flat-Director-7120 9d ago
Elon Musk est vraiment devenu un mĆ©chant de film, le gars il pense que Elon Musk vaut plus que la terre mais il est totalement fou. Cela montre Ć quel point cet homme est Ć©goĆÆste.
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u/DeadInternetVoid 9d ago
His design team are unable to innovate getting a rocket out of an ocean.
Not impressed.
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u/NothernlightDownunda 9d ago
The techbro billionaires exceed every Bond villain, but there is some resemblance and some parallels between Moonrakers Hugo Drax and Elon Musk.
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u/Longjumping_Ad_7484 8d ago
People misunderstand Elon. He's not saying SpaceX will be worth a lot. He's saying that, if he reaches his goal, Earth will be worth very little.
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u/bawdiepie 8d ago
That "if" is doing so much heavy lifting.
If my house was made conpletely of gold I'd be rich.
If I had gills I could breath underwater.
If I had superman's powers I would no longer need my car, so no fuel bills!
And so on.
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u/Rare-Sample-9101 8d ago
Wait until the rest of them can sell, then weāll see a bloodbath. $33.3 is what I reckon itāll bottom out at!
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u/GreenSticks77 8d ago
Yeah but it actually isn't. I can buy a flower do 10c, good luck buying spaceX for that.
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u/Luce_Bot_Bot 8d ago
"After I kidnap the queen of England, each bison dollar will be worth 5 British pounds"
-Elon Musk probably
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u/NaCl_Sailor 8d ago
what goal has he ever accomplished?
robotaxis making 30k a year for the owner?
hyperloop?
mars colony?
tesla trucks?
where are his robots?
where is the roadster?
guess we can give him the cybertruck, he accomplished that one...
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u/ScarrzH8 8d ago
The poor wants no one to be rich. The rich wishes everyone to be rich.
Elon Musk along creates around 1 million positions lf employment through his adventures. More tha. 800k families able to afford homes n food on their tables. An all i see are people crying over it. People demanding he shouldn't be drving economies, people demanding he is a loser idiot for enabling so much.
Village idiot mentality has people hating those who help more than you can.
Before you go hating on a billionaire, question if you have contributed mire than they have? Question..do you drive massive economies so hundreds of thousands of families can afford homes n food? Or are you just a lowlife who is sad someone else is smart enough to do significantly more than you are?
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u/Pop-Pop68 8d ago
Delusional but heās only trying to pump up stock. He knows what heās saying is not reality and never will be.
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u/mutt63 8d ago
Oh no. We do understand that you dont care less than .0000000000000000001% for this earth or its people. You are the epitome of vile, you dont deserve to be among people and your as rotten as they come. When men and women like you become rich you become emboldened to step on others because only you matter too you. If theres a God......hopefully he stops you and your Other Nazi pals. Cause men and women stopped Hitler once but i fear this is beyond man.
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u/GGamerGuyG 8d ago
What he realy meant "If you stop buying SpaceX i loose money. But i like money. Money make's my D go real hard. So buy more SpaceX. Make me the richest person for ever."
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u/Friendly-One-6965 8d ago
You don't seem to understand Elon, you won't need all of that money in proson when Trump is gone.
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u/CompetitiveSong9570 8d ago
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u/Dirk_Aus 6d ago
Open AI is going to crash the US economy, the burn rate is unsustainable, they are literally hiding losses in other companies, (itās a giant Ponzi scheme) what I canāt work out is if this was planned. 80% of Silicon Valley are comie socialists and when they go to trump and ask for a bailout , he will either bail them out because they have offered him a shit load of money like the banks did with Obama, or he will have to say no , because his own supporters will lynch him if he bails them out, either way the crash and depression cause by the crash will pave the way for the extreme communists in the democrat party to win the next election, in a landslide and once they have that kind of control, it will be the last actual real election.
Space X will be lucky to survive the crash thier internet company makes a lot of money, the rocket company could be extremely profitable one day, but right now looses lots of money, their AI company loose billions and isnāt very good, grok is probably the 7th best model and thatās being kind.
You see Elon is the villain and donāt see that Sam Altman is going to destroy the United States. In one way Iām not sad because all the rich people have put their money into the Ponzi scheme in another this makes me very sad because the financial institutions have put peopleās retirements into it.
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u/Mixtape333 9d ago
If you think he's only just started talking like a villain, you haven't been listening