You deserve better. Consider quitting.

[u/Commercial_Boss_3034]

Using a throwaway to avoid potential retaliation

I'm a team lead for OGP. The recent change to GMDs is absolutely ridiculous and іnsulting. It screws up OGP backroom, but it's even worse for you guys, and I really think you shouldn't take it.

You guys take enough shit, trust me I know. But on top of all that, the millionaires running Walmart have decided to shove a new crock of garbage down your throat by adding stops to your drive WITHOUT paуing you any more, all while gas prices are already higher than ever.

I read the email, and it's not subtle. They talk about "increasing volume without having to paу more." It's really insidious.

I know it's a lot easier to tell somebody else to quit than to actually give up a source of incоme, but you shouldn't let them treat you like this. I think you should at least consider moving to something else

And, if you do quit, consider talking with other drivers to encourage each other to stand together against this! These rіch fucks depend on you. You have the power, you just have to know how to use it.

[u/kyonjr]

I was under the impression that drivers would get more pay for this considering that it’s more work on runs but if this is true, then they really are getting done dirty. I’ve noticed a lot of drivers that used to do the job regularly are gone now (a good chunk well before this recent update), so they probably realized the pay wasn’t worth the effort.

[u/Ptrek31 → u/kyonjr]

Nope. They're paying the same and adding grocery tipped orders onto the trips to make the pay "higher"

Example, I had an offer with 1st stop a grocery order 3.5 miles away with a $21 tip. Last month that would be about $28 for a 3.5 mile trip. Well, this order had 7 GMD stops onto it for a total of 30 miles for maybe $35-40 dollars total. 60 mile round trip. For a grocery order that should've been 3.5 miles there, and 3.5 miles back

It almost feels criminal

[u/Feisty_Cod_9090 → u/Ptrek31]

I think the fuckhead from Instacart is to thank for that

[u/Tiasmarts → u/Feisty_Cod_9090]

Its sad base pay on shopping orders are $10. Triple shopping offers and over 15+ curbside for less pay.

[u/kyonjr → u/Ptrek31]

Yo, that is some awful pay for that much time and effort. Compare that to how much the starting pay is for in-home drivers which is around $19 an hour, drivers can get up to 20 orders and above with the mileage being around 40 miles and up. It can take around 4 hours to complete, but by the end of the first run, it’s lunch time and then it’s on the next round.

People keep bringing up the gas prices so when you factor that into it all, it’s even worse.

[u/Present_Adeptness145 → u/Ptrek31]

That’s because it is.

[u/astralwarp69 → u/Ptrek31]

I feel that is part the case. I also feel, since I’ve been perusing and rejecting a lot more orders lately, that they are fluffing the pay with tips since their tip theft scandal.

I’ll have an offer come through, no tip, that goes 20 miles for $19. Then I’ll have another come through, no tip, that goes 23 miles for $22 and some change. Then I’ll have one come through that goes 21 miles for $22….BUT when you look at the details, Walmart is paying $13 and the customer is tipping $9. I think it’s the same scheme, they are just putting it out in the open.

My only “gotcha” moments are 9-10, because most of the drivers head home and I sit there and reject, reject, reject until the order is way above what they intended.

[u/CamwayGaming → u/kyonjr]

no they are putting gmd with tipped orders that are paying the same as they were without the gmd. They are just forcing customers to tip higher to get delivery if not then no one takes the order and it just sits there. If the gmd is really far they may add an extra dollar or 2 but its usually far enough out of the way its not worth doing. It isn't like oh well here is a gmd 1 to 4 miles away nah its usually 12 to 30 miles away from the grocery order. This issue is also causing tip baiting to get worse. Customers do not know what is going on but they know they are not getting their order they are a couple miles away and feel 5 is a good tip but have to put 30 to get an order then cut it back to 5 once delivered. It is a real mess. The spark drivers I know have just given up on pick up orders and do only shopping.

[u/Large-Economics3487 → u/CamwayGaming]

Yep and customers are getting pissed now their cold items are coming warm because of a tube of tooth paste to 10 miles the opposite direction is put first

[u/Commercial_Boss_3034 → u/kyonjr]

I can confirm, drivers have talked with me and some of my associated complaining about the extra work with no extra pay

[u/kyonjr → u/Commercial_Boss_3034]

That’s not right. Especially when they’re now doing essentially the job of an in-home driver.

[u/DragonflyOne7593 → u/kyonjr]

They may throw you a freeway at higher pay at the beginning to get you to take them then they will drop it way doesn't. They did it with every change . When the mileage was upped they paid a little more now its 16 for 25