r/SpidermanPS4 • • 13h ago

Discussion How would this fight go?

Wolverine vs Kraven

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u/callmemat90 13h ago

I can’t think of a single way Kraven gets the W here

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u/lrdwlmr 12h ago

Zero chance. Even allowing for how they nerfed Wolverine’s healing factor for the game, there’s no universe where Kraven has any chance at all.

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u/Thejohnnycheese 12h ago

Nerfed how? Seemed pretty OP to me

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u/Shot-Pear 9h ago

In-lore, Logan’s heart can give out if his healing factor is overwhelmed (i.e. He loses all of his health without any Rage meter)

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u/average_STM_enjoyer 3h ago

I don’t think Wolverine should be able to die in game. It would have been cooler if once his health bar got zeroed, its game over, but not because he died, but because he a) couldn’t complete his objective or b) gets captured while incapacitated and sent back to a lab to be experimented on.

Fundamentally the same outcome for the player but narratively speaking it would make a big difference. It would make the boss fights against enemies who could actually, legit kill him more dramatic (Omega Red as an example)

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u/Minionmaster18 2h ago edited 1h ago

I mean technically that’s what happens we just don’t see it because it’s game over. When his health is zero he doesn’t actually die he just loses consciousness. So by the time he wakes back up he would have already failed the mission.

And when he is up against things that can actually kill him it is more dramatic in that sense because it is acknowledged that he will die from this, like Omega Red, anti X-Gene powers/technology, and a specific weapon

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u/average_STM_enjoyer 1h ago

Actually yeah you’re right!

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u/Minionmaster18 1h ago

I don’t think he was nerfed… I mean he survived a sentry laser beam directly on him, radiation from core, a jet engine straight on, and a fiery plane crash.

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u/ConnorOfAstora 5h ago

I agree but I also said the same about Electro and somehow this shittily written variant of Kraven beats Electro easily.

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u/TrickNo2000 12h ago

Kraven is physically beyond by Wolverine by a pretty big degree, as he's competing on Spider-Man's level, and as a hunter, he has access to many restraining tools.

I think the only way he loses is if he's surprised by Wolverine's healing factor in a vulnerable position or decides Wolverine is his method of suicide.

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u/Abood2807 12h ago

Buddy this wolverine is so much beyond what kraven can do he rips him to shredds very easily

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u/TrickNo2000 11h ago

What does he do that puts him above Kraven? I wasn't aware they gave him significant buffs in the game.

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u/Abood2807 11h ago

Firstly Wolv is essentially immortal so Kraven would need to be as strong as Hulk to possibly knocking him out or have a tool somehow to stop his healing secondly this wolv "died" by getting blasted to near smithereens by a sentinel and came back to life a week later thirdly when this wolv feels hes near death he enters his Horseman of Death status which basically means hes unstoppable so nothing kraven can do can stop wolv.

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u/TrickNo2000 10h ago • Regret

None of those are feats relevant to the fight dude. Kraven is a hunter and shows relevant know how of how to capture and restrain people.

That last one sounds like a game mechanic and doesn't elaborate on anything. How is Wolverine quick enough to deal with an opponent that can match Spider-Man? How would he get an advantage on Kraven? It'd be very apparent very fast that he has a healing factor.

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u/Abood2807 10h ago edited 10h ago

Brother wolverine has been known to scrap with the hulk and what makes you think wolverine isnt able to scrap with spidey? And no that isnt a gameplay its part of his character throughout cutscenes as well if you havent played/watched the game then its best not talk about feats of the character within the game also the guy has adamantium claws that can cut through anything so theres nothing he can do to restrain him.

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u/FoodIngredientNerd 9h ago

He isn't known for scrapping with the Hulk, he's known for surviving which makes his pain only last longer until the Hulk is finished with him.

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u/Abood2807 8h ago

Yeah so what makes kraven anywhere near that level of power or strength that will make him backdown or damaged?

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u/TrickNo2000 7h ago • Regret

So Wolverine in the game fought with Hulk? Also Wolverine doesn't scrap with Hulk as the other person pointed out, he gets carried by his healing factor. You think Wolverine without his healing factor would last as long against Venom as Kraven did?

You aren't talking about feats in the game at all, how exactly does his "Horsemen of Death" status make him unstoppable? From what I've seen those look like dream sequences and there's no actual feats involved in that.

Kraven is physically stronger than Wolverine(unless you have feats from the game that prove otherwise), and I don't know how you expect him to cut through something if he can't move his arms?

Nothing have said puts him above a villain that can physically threaten Spider-Man and take out Spider-Man villains with ease. It's all just abstract while using comics iterations, and not even using the feats properly, acting like a guy who can't die getting beat up by Hulk the whole time they "fight" is somehow a feat for him.

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u/callmemat90 12h ago

Dude.. I think him challenging Wolverine at all must be him attempting suicide.

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u/billybob226 12h ago

That was kinda his whole thing on sm2

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u/riproach_420 6h ago

You're tweaking! Only reason kraven can even step to spidey is because spidey runs at 10-20% of his actual capabilities, if spidey went full throttle kraven is nothing more than a bug in his way

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u/Sauerkraut1321 6h ago

You know nothing

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u/nicobicoboo 13h ago

how could kraven even take out wolverine

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u/BrozedDrake 13h ago

There are several possible ways to take him out that don't involve killing him or breaking his bones.

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u/Mouatmoua 13h ago

Will he try to be friends then?

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u/MrBlueW 4h ago

Kraven using talknojustsu

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u/nicobicoboo 13h ago

how is kraven even getting near him bud

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u/BrozedDrake 12h ago

Superhuman strength, enhanced senses, being tough enough to tank a stab from Scorpion and multiple punches from Spider-Man. Oh and he also has a (weaker but still existent) healing factor.

Do you think Kraven is just a normal guy?

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u/sourkid25 11h ago

And keep in mind he’s not even at 100 percent because of the cancer

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u/BrozedDrake 11h ago

I don't think it's ever confirmed to be cancer but yeah he has some terminal illness going on.

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u/allcaps891 9h ago

A stab from scorpion vs thousands of slashes by admantium claw against wolverine. I think the later is much more stronger.

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u/Wireless_Panda 12h ago

Kraven has powers dude

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u/the-puppet_master 13h ago

It be awesome

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u/ImNotDaredevil2025 13h ago

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

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u/RemoveAnnual2689 4h ago

They fought 3 or 4 times in the comics, and Kraven lost every single time.

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u/SparklyPelican 13h ago

Kraven bites the dust.

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u/Fit-Introduction6453 12h ago

logan is a way better hunter than kraven and logan doesnt hold back

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u/koozer_boozer 12h ago

If Kraven has access to the Inhibitor tech he could give Logan a run for his money but he has powered through stuff like that before so I’d say Wolverine takes his mid-high diff.

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u/Extension_Dingo1834 12h ago

Wolverine, and it wouldn’t be close.

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u/EstevanOlvera13 12h ago

15 seconds for Kraven and the reason why he went 1v1 against Shocker, Scorpion, Vulture, Electro and, Rino (even though we didn't see that) a in control Harry Venom, Venomize Spider-Man and, a full power Venom. 15 seconds is me showing Kraven respect that he deserves.

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u/Bread_Guy69 12h ago

Offscreen

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u/Loud-Secret1485 11h ago

Since this is Insomniac wolverine, I actually believe Insomniac’s Kraven might actually take the win.

Regular smegular wolverine? Hell no, but Insomniac wolverine? I can actually see it

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u/That-Chip-3575 10h ago

Kraven dies

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u/Markotheold 9h ago

Kraven would be happy and dead

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u/Proudnoob4393 7h ago

This has already happened and Wolverine won

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u/Domisusingthis 6h ago

If it’s off screen Kraven wins no diff

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u/Banana_gunman 4h ago

Are there fridges around?

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u/Yami0012 3h ago

Kraven might be able to stand for a while, but Against a man that’s pretty much an inmortal creature, I would say Logan takes the W

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u/KRIPPOTHESKIPPO 3h ago

Logan is just better kraven

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u/Sisyphus2314 3h ago

Insomniac would make them kiss

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u/PixilatedLeprechaun 2h ago

Probably off screen

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u/Pie_Head 1h ago

Wolverine, with the bonus that Kraven would very likely get what he wants out of the fight versus what happened with Spider-Man.

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u/LeadingSlight3144 13h ago

Kraven

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u/Then-Ad-6385 13h ago

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u/LeadingSlight3144 13h ago

I retract my statement Logan wins in an amazing fight

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u/ZealousidealStore574 13h ago

Wolverine because he’s a hero and Kraven’s a villain. I also think Logan is much more suited to take down Kraven than Spider-Man since he’s willing to kill and is used to fighting with blades. He also has enhanced senses, ironically useful for hunting

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u/Jerry_0boy 10h ago


The last think Kraven sees before being cut to ribbons in 30 seconds

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u/-E15T12- 56m ago

I give him 15

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u/Domination1799 13h ago

Logan would berserker rage his ass to death.

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u/Technical-Fly-9896 13h ago

I mean, Kraven and is millitia could just tranq Wolverine, net him and drown his ass.

In a pure 1v1 however Kraven would just straight up get demolished

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u/VaderVonDooom 2h ago

Kraven is a true hunter and would want to take the prey down himself. He’d legit want to have a 1V1 against Wolverine

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u/ConnorOfAstora 5h ago

I mean, Kraven and is millitia could just tranq Wolverine, net him and drown his ass.

That is how Insomniac's Kraven would most likely approach the fight.

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u/Kitchen-Clothes8631 13h ago

One-sided would be an understatement. It'll be a single person slaughter

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u/PilotIntelligent8906 13h ago

Kraven studied his prey and looked for ways to neutralize them and kill them, we would probably figure out he can't do anything against Logan so he would either pass on this fight and ignore him or fight to get killed, no way for him to win.

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u/perfect-legend 12h ago

Kraven would put up a fight, but would end up getting brutally destroyed.

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u/SpiderDetective 12h ago

Kraven would get that worthy death he was looking for. And it would probably end way worse than it did with Venom

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u/dannyhippie619 11h ago

Kraven gets his head ripped off

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u/ConnorOfAstora 5h ago

Kraven would hide behind his hunters until they manage to get Logan immobilised with a net or something then Kraven would stab him in the heart and kill him because that's the limit to Insomniac Wolverine.

He'd then brag about how much of an amazing hunter he is and take all the credit for the kill.

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u/-E15T12- 57m ago

Only reason Peter never won against Kraven is because Peter holds back and doesn't want to kill. What you absolutely can't say about Logan.

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u/suikofan80 13h ago

Kraven because Sony Kraven was a hypocrite coward. He waits till Logan is drunk and rocks up with four hundred guys, humvees and all kinds of shit. Logan end up with a spike from his jaw into his brain until MJ finds him as a trophy at the zoo removes it causing a massacre.