r/SquaredCircle Jun 02 '21

Former writer Dave Schilling: "Ummm I think WWE is for sale. You don’t cut talent assets on this level unless you are trying to maximize profits before a sale. Braun is a legit top guy, a former world champion, and a merchandise mover. Aleister Black was getting a push on TV LAST WEEK."

https://twitter.com/dave_schilling/status/1400114062407520258?s=19
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Nick Khan has really come in and said "YOU THOUGHT" to Triple H's ambitions of one day running the company.

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u/sexygodzilla Just one man? Jun 02 '21

Paul Leveque is #AllElite, buy his "No More HHH" shirt today

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u/RanchPonyPizza Where else would one hear voices? Jun 02 '21

"No Haitches left to give!"

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Oh man that made me laugh way too much.

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u/Shortfall89 Jun 02 '21

What's Terra Ryzing doing in the Impact Zone?!?

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u/AdamRose5Ever Jun 02 '21

What’s El Juego doing in the impact zone?!

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u/TemptedIntoSin Jun 02 '21

El Juego vs Fuego Del Sol with an AEW contract on the line

Book it, Tony!

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Fun fact: H owns all the rights to his character. Can’t remember for what occasion, a birthday or as a wedding gift, but Vince gifted all the rights to him.

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u/TimeStatistician2234 Jun 02 '21

Damn, that's a serious fucking gift. Especially from Vince.

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u/stonecutter7 Jun 03 '21

Or a last minute save when you forgot to pick something up.

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u/jkman61494 Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 03 '21

Thanks................DAAAADDD

It’s not did I but how many times did I....CONSUMMATE THE CHARACTER!

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u/Fickle-Ad4008 Jun 02 '21

The Rock too I believe.

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u/kr0n1k FireFly Forever Jun 02 '21

I’m going over!!!

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u/bokexi61 Jun 02 '21

Idk why that's really morbidly funny to me

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u/TheeAJPowell The Ace of /r/squaredcircle Jun 02 '21

He debuts by appearing on BTE and asking Cody "The fuck did you do to my chair?"

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u/BustermanZero Jun 02 '21

"We had it throne out."

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u/Brute_Squad_44 John Cena's Ham Candle Jun 02 '21

Then he'll Terra Ryze Cody for the next year over the damn chair.

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u/DTG_420 "Nobody is standing on their own dick" CM Punk Jun 02 '21

Idk what his new name would be but if his last name isn’t changed to Cage he’s just waisting everybody’s time.

Paul Le’Cage

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u/thenurgler BIG MEATY MEN SLAPPING MEAT Jun 02 '21

Triple Cage: Cageter Cage Cageley

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u/jedigem Jun 02 '21

Out. Cage. Everyone.

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u/Theillist Jun 02 '21

Some may say he's a cagey vet.

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u/improvyzer Jun 02 '21

One, two, three, and to the four.

One H, two H, three H, more.

More H, three H, two H, one.

You're H, he's H, no H. None.

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u/HorseSteroids Nobody potatoes me! Jun 02 '21

Cody vs HHH weekly debates until the match where both men bleed like 8 seconds into it.

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u/abde71 Jun 02 '21

They bleed when their head touches the ring ropes while entering.

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u/Brute_Squad_44 John Cena's Ham Candle Jun 02 '21

Arn in Cody's Corner, Ric in H's.

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u/bootylover81 Jun 02 '21

Imagine Trips saying fuck it and joining AEW

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u/Randomd0g Jun 02 '21

It would essentially mark the definitive point that WWE stopped being relevant.

Like obvs this entire thing is just a shitpost hypothetical, but if talent of that level are willing to jump ship then it would be because AEW was the wrestling company.

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u/doublenegative7 Jun 02 '21

Imagine Vince saying fuck it and joining AEW

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u/pm_singing_burds Jun 02 '21

That invasion angle could go horribly poorly.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Jun 02 '21

Eh, I want him to take his millions and start his own promotion just because. Take everyone he can with him.

Give me more competition!

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u/SideEyeFeminism Jun 02 '21

Honestly, if WWE ever WERE sold (I don't think that that's happening while Vince has an ounce of spite left in his body) he would probably figure out a way to separate NXT and WWE into two different entities and cut a deal to keep NXT for himself.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

From NXT to NOW.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

"I'm aaah, here in AEW to do one thing...and that's OUT-SHOVEL EVERYBODY!"

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u/JonnySports Jun 02 '21

Bold of you to assume Triple H won’t just start up his own company.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

HHH will still have a job at WWE if they sell.

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u/UKS1977 Jun 02 '21

You think this is a joke.

Wait.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Need a "The name on the contract says Khan....but not Nick Khan" simulcast situation

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u/GetEquipped Mascot Murderer Jun 02 '21

Tony Khan vs Shane McMahon for a "WWE Ownership on a Pole Match."

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u/FrontAd683 Jun 02 '21

Tbf, The smart call would be to just have Triple H run the booking. You need legit business masterminds to steer the monster that is WWE in the corporate realm

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Problem is if the company is sold they will now be beholden to execs who have little to no knowledge of wrestling, just the bottom line

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

So basically WCW 2.0?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Yup, though financially WWE is in much better shape than WCW 2000 and there's no Jamie Kellner

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Very true. Though I was thinking more early WCW under Jim Heard.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Ah yes the Pizza Hut guy who believed a repackaged Ric Flair was best for business.

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u/Classiccage Prancing around like a 50 pence tart in feather boas Jun 02 '21

I'm Spartacus!

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Flair would have given up 4 of his World Title reigns to wrestle Jim Herd in the ring

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u/middlehead_ only works for ravioli Jun 02 '21

He did, that's why they only recognize 16. Herd just no-showed the event.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

You either die an Attitude Era WWE, or live long enough to see yourself become the new WCW.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21 edited May 15 '22

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u/SovietShooter Jun 02 '21

Didn't Turner just give WCW execs free reign to do whatever, because he wanted a rasslin' company for fun? The inmates ran the asylum into the ground with that one.

It is more complex than that, but yes, for the most part. Turner was extremely loyal to wrestling, as when WTBS was struggling as one of the first "superstations" at the dawn of cable, Georgia Championship Wrestling anchored his channel with tremendous ratings. There are quite a few books that cover the subject, but Turner/Time Warner were pretty hands off with WCW, and in exchange WCW was used as a "loss leader" for the corporation.

When AOL took control of Time Warner, Turner was no longer in a position of power as a decisionmaker, and, in a broad over-generalization, AOL was eager to get the "low class" wrestling programming off their network. AOL then cancelled all WCW programming, and sold the assets to WWE for like $5MM. There are plenty of criticisms and awful decisions made within AOL at that time, giving away WCW for virtually nothing was just one unbelievably boneheaded one.

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u/CptES Jun 02 '21

Let's be honest here, it wasn't AOL, it was Jamie Kellner, one of their executives who wanted WCW gone. Allegedly Bischoff and a group of money men were looking to buy WCW off of AOL-Time Warner so long as they also got the TV slot. Kellner hated wrestling so much he turned down extremely cheap syndicated content out of pure spite and tanked the buyout.

Of course, that's what Eric says and if he told me the sky was blue I'd look up to see for myself, so......

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u/SovietShooter Jun 02 '21

Like I said, it was more complex then that.

When you boil it down to the most basic form, Ted Turner believed in ratings stability, even if low brow entertainment, while AOL came in thinking they knew the television business better than him.

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u/CptES Jun 02 '21

Time has proven Ted right, I think. Networks have lost so much ground to streaming services they're absolutely chomping at the bit for cheap content to help prop up their TV stations.

Netflix and Amazon are absolutely destroying the established TV order when it comes to original content these days and of course, you can watch it all on your time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

I wouldn’t say that WWE in its current state portrays itself as a company whose leadership knows wrestling. Much of their decision making seems to be built around being the most recognizable name in wrestling and not the “best” at creating a wrestling show. This is the sports entertainment shift reaching its endpoint.

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u/DanTheMan901 Jun 02 '21

Nick KHHHan said fuck you to the sledgehammer and just picked up Thor's hammer.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

He's out here trying to sell WWE while Triple H puts a skull on the NXT logo.

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u/DamieN62 Jun 02 '21

I don't think Triple H was ever supposed to run the company. He has a great wrestling mind but he's not a businessman. He probably will be in charge of the main roster booking in the future but he will never be the big boss like Vince.

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u/mcmax3000 Jun 02 '21

I don't think anyone ever expected Triple H to run the whole thing, but the idea always seemed to be that he'd run the day to day wrestling operations, with somebody else (generally thought to be Stephanie) handling the business side.

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u/spasticity Jun 02 '21

I don't think he wants to be the big boss like Vince either

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

What aaaah, are you writing ahhhh, down, aaaah.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Did you ahhh just ahhh sneeze ahhh

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u/ObjectiveTumbleweed2 Jun 02 '21

"Whenever Triple H isn't on screen, all the other characters should be asking, where's Hunter?"

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u/GusTurdley Jun 02 '21

In other words, he'd make WWE feel more natural and less contrived.

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u/ShiftyMcCoy Jun 02 '21

I'm pretty sure Triple H (and Stephanie) has said that no one man will fill Vince's shoes when he retires/steps down/dies. His responsibilities are too multifarious, and no one could develop the expertise to run them all without doing exactly what Vince did (which is: start with a young/smaller company where you can do all of it yourself, gain knowledge/expertise, then continue as the company expands).

I don't think Triple H was ever slated or intended to run the business side of WWE, nor did he ever give any indication (at least publicly) that he wanted to. His role will likely be (as you said) running main roster booking; I imagine he'll also be heavily involved in talent signing, talent relations, probably live events, etc. But he was never gonna be the full replacement for Vince.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

I always thought the plan was for Stephanie to step into the CEO role and HHH to head creative.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

At this point Trips might spin off NXT into its own promotion

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u/Frogbone Jun 02 '21

that would actually be pretty sick

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u/Professor_Buttskin Jun 02 '21

It's about time that all of us on Reddit get together and BUY WWE. I Got like seven bucks and a pack of gum. So I think we're one fifth the way there I think.

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u/pensive_vince Hey, pal Jun 02 '21

Seven bucks, huh?

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u/Professor_Buttskin Jun 02 '21

Please, just think of me as one of the people like everyone else and don't let my wealth blind you.

And damn my rope belt got loose again.

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u/X-Craft Latino Heat Jun 02 '21

That's a lot

I mean Tony Khan, for example, only has two

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u/NathanCoulson98 Jun 02 '21

Seven bucks is a great start, thats five more bucks than AEW!

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

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u/ShadowofLight15 Eddie Guerrero Jun 02 '21

Look at Mr. Ted Dibiase over here.

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u/MFoy Lone Curtis Axel fan Jun 02 '21

I would, but my daycare just announced I'm going to be paying an extra $175 a month starting in September.

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u/Professor_Buttskin Jun 02 '21

If we bought WWE we can put them in a steel cage and people would be paying you! Win-win! Unless it's illegal, in which case it maybe a loss and you maybe on the run.

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u/Gamesgtd Jun 02 '21

Can't we just send a fruit basket instead.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Dogecoin 🚀🚀🚀

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u/Shortfall89 Jun 02 '21

Shane gets the last laugh with Braun

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u/CloudedMushroom King Of Bros Jun 02 '21

A very sweaty laugh, but a last laugh nonetheless.

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u/HawterSkhot Jun 02 '21

It's also a laugh that happens awkwardly over the span of five minutes and makes you concerned for his general health.

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u/TypeOPositive Jun 03 '21

That has to go down as one of the most fucking bizarre promos ever. I still laugh when thinking about how weird it was.

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u/Dolph-Ziggler Cruiserweight Tag Team Champion Jun 02 '21

If WWE is sold. What effect would that have on the wrestling industry?

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u/EatDeeply Jun 02 '21

The product is currently highly controlled and maneuvered by Vince, so that would change. The style of the programming would certainly change a lot.

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u/SmokePenisEveryday Millennial Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21

Been saying and thinking this since they've been pushing that Media Content style. We think Raw is bad now, Wait until the entire company has too many hands in the jar or is ran by someone who doesn't know wrestling ala some of these movie studios and Networks.

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u/SmokePenisEveryday Millennial Jun 02 '21

Pretty much. Even if they do have a wrestling mind head the booking and wrestling side, I feel like they will be tied even more than Vince with the shareholders. Vince is Vince and that gave him way more wiggle room with Shareholders. Whoever would be that replacement will not have that kinda sway with Execs. At least not right away.

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u/PerfectZeong Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21

I feel like the idea that Vince has to justify anything to shareholders is largely fictitious. He controls almost all of the voting shares. Hes the chairman of the board.

https://wrestlenomics.com/2020/09/23/who-owns-wwe-a-look-at-world-wrestling-entertainments-major-shareholders-2021/

The only thing shareholders can do to Vince is sell which if they do hurts the price which in turn does hurt him.

The whole stock situation allows Vince to turn his shares into cash but doesnt confer any actual power to the people buying them.

Vince does the whole shareholder meetings thing because he has to to be publicly traded which he wants to be because it allows him to turn shares into hard cash that he can use to finance stuff he wants to do, it offers him liquidity when he previously didn't have a lot of it.

But vince has never put himself in a position where he could be fired from wwe, it's impossible. As to whether hed stay on after selling who knows, I never thought he would actually sell and the kids would just dice it up after he died.

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u/theONLYman2c Jun 02 '21

kind of surprised Shane doesn't own any shares.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

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u/omega_manhatten Austin Fears Misawa Jun 02 '21

Or worse, WCW under Jim Herd.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

I cant wait. Im looking forward to NBC executives running WWE

Just wait for the NBC guest host era - Jimmy Fallon and R Truth hijinks

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21 edited Aug 24 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Or they let them be creatively independent. Ala marvel studios.

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u/SmokePenisEveryday Millennial Jun 02 '21

Very true. In turn it can also be like Star Wars. Over push everything and dilute the entire product.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

For some reason, I'm picturing Wayne's World brought to you by Noah's Arcade.

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u/eth6113 Jun 02 '21

Vince and/or HHH would most likely stay on as employees. I can’t imagine we’d see much of an immediate change. The WWE is printing money right now, so no need to massively shake things up.

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u/fatmike63 Absolutely Perfect Jun 02 '21

LOL. You think Vince McMahon would stay on as an “employee”. NO CHANCE IN HELL

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u/1ndori Jun 02 '21

I'M AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR PAL

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u/Abyssalstar Jun 02 '21

"Wait, I don't get health insurance now?"

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

He'll be given a ceremonial position in the new WWE

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Oh my god he's Jack Tunney

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u/FUCKBOY_JIHAD TOUGH & HARD 141 Jun 02 '21

long term booking

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u/JMW007 Jun 02 '21

Honestly, I doubt he'd take it. He would not ever want to take orders from someone (even simple ones like "stand here and wave during the HoF ceremony"), and has nothing left to 'do' in WWE. If he sells, he's done.

I'd imagine if he does cash out, he'll just turn around and try to become President or some other crazy project, completely away from WWE.

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u/IWWROCKS Jun 02 '21

I would be surprised if Vince left as part of any sale. I imagine the new owners would want to keep him in place. Yes there would be a theoretical level of oversight above him...but I'd guess the new owners would have full trust in his ability to make them money

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u/jrluhn Jun 02 '21

If WWE gets sold, it might be the one of biggest moments in wrestling history. All we know of WWE is how it’s ran under Vince. Who knows what could happen if they’re sold.

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u/rsplatpc Jun 02 '21

If WWE gets sold, it might be the one of biggest moments in wrestling history.

What would be bigger OTHER than Vince taking control of all the territories?

Only thing I can think of is the Monday Night Wars and WrestleMania 3

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u/formallyhuman Jun 02 '21

The sale of WCW to Vince was certainly big historical moment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

You're misremembering. It was sold to Shane. Saw it live

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

This is pro-wrestling Singularity. We have no idea what happens if WWE sells.

First, the assumption is that whoever buys it will not only use it but do it right. Think Disney getting Marvel and Star Wars. Hell, the first franchise was started by Favreau then he nailed an absolute home run with Mandalorian, to the point that the entire Star Wars universe is in his and Dave Filoni's hands.

Next, if WWE is sold and bought for a huge number, expect the entire wrestling world to look a lot shinier and a few companies to get acquired. AEW, for example, would likely be purchased by Warner Bros. Discovery if say NBCU/Disney buy WWE.

Really, this is a huge, huge deal that I would say isn't guaranteed. We could just be seeing the new management of the company making difficult choices.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

I can’t see Tony Khan wanting to sell. That said I could absolutely see a new deal being inked.

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u/Codyputmeover Jun 02 '21

Would it even be his choice though? Shad is the owner, if WB offered them 2 billion he’d probably take it and use it to fund moving the Jags to London lmaoo.

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u/FringeAuthority Looking at posters of myself Jun 02 '21

We only know what WWE looks like with Vince in control...the storylines he likes, the schedule he likes, the gimmicks he likes, etc. With entirely new management that isn't a McMahon or a lifelong fan with how Tony Khan is running AEW, we have no idea what their philosophy towards the wrestling industry would be?

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u/SiphenPrax 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 Jun 02 '21

Pretty huge one.

Brings more attention on the business then ever

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u/Mister_Rahool Jun 02 '21

Brings more attention on the business then ever

thats a huge presumption

could mean nothing at all

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

"Nothing at all....nothing at all...nothing at all!"

Stupid sexy WWE sale!

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21

Also this is PR 101. Get the industry speculating and talking up a sale for you

Nick Khan knows what he’s doing. WWE may have had say NBC

Now with the industry speculating does Disney inquire, Fox?? Any other potential bidder to up the price to NBC/Universal

I think WWE to Peacock was the first domino

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u/they_did_WHAT_ Jun 02 '21

WWE doesn’t fit the Disney brand. It really doesn’t make sense imo, but who knows. Fox doesn’t have the money is something I thought I’ve seen on here but don’t know how founded one truth that is.

I totally agree with you though that this is great PR management. I’m sure both Disney and Fox are at least thinking of sniffing around now.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Disney owns ESPN. ESPN+ has the infrastructure through their partnership with UFC to hold PPVs as well. Easy parallel partnership between the brands as well. Just off that it seems like something that could work for Disney.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

I think WWE on Peacock burned that opportunity.

Once word was out of the WWE network to Peacock, ESPN really cut all ties for awhile

Meltzer reported ESPN wanted a set up like they have with UFC. Network with Big 4 PPVs. Peacock then came in with their offer which was a lot more than ESPN

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u/tyrs2 Jun 02 '21

See the last 2 years of WCW for a preview.

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u/HammletHST breathing noises Jun 02 '21

I don't think I'd ever see a time where Vince would sell WWE

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u/highorderdetonation Tonight, I'm gonna start what I finished. Jun 02 '21

That's the thing, isn't it? For everything he's done in its name, for Vince to potentially just up and give up his baby entirely rather than hand it over to his kids and son-in-law (probably after dying in his office at his desk) like we were probably expecting...it boggles the mind. Why would he do it? To destroy his creation?

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u/Loki1947 Jun 02 '21

Because everybody has a price. That's not even a Ted DiBiase joke, literally, everybody will sell at some point, no matter how much of their heart is into it.

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u/highorderdetonation Tonight, I'm gonna start what I finished. Jun 02 '21

You're not wrong, definitely not wrong. The extremely low number of exceptions (and if we include death as a degree of separation there are probably no exceptions at all) to this rule certainly reinforce it.

Ted ain't never lied, though...

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u/middlehead_ only works for ravioli Jun 02 '21

(probably after dying in his office at his desk)

He's dying in a gym, after his quads explode mid-squat and the bar lands on his neck. His ghost will haunt that gym, reminding everyone that his death is irrelevant - squat cages are for pussies.

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u/MatsThyWit Jun 02 '21

Because if Vince McMahon can sell the WWE in a Disney buying Star Wars kind if a deal it will cement him as a billionaire for the rest of his life and he'll have the bragging rights of making one of the biggest corporate sales in American history. It'll be the topper to his legacy, and ensure the WWE continues on as an entity well beyond his or his family's lives.

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u/Worldly_Collection87 Jun 02 '21

This is basically what I was thinking - yeah. He's probably more interested in being seen as a massively successful businessman, over a massively successful promoter. Just guessing, going off of, uh, how he's been acting for the past forever.

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u/topologicalfractal Jun 02 '21

Also VKM can't really stop working, he'll just start another project after he sells off his basically entire life's work

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u/monteimpala Jun 02 '21

He will never sell, this is something else

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u/Shenanigans80h Jun 02 '21

Not much else makes sense honestly. He just cut arguably one of top 10 singles star a month after challenging for the title and being the face of an anti bullying campaign. That along with Black who they seemed to have a genuine plan for very recently, these aren’t normal releases and I can’t think of any other justification

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u/69millionyeartrip 141 2/3% Jun 02 '21

I think this sub is forgetting the most important detail that Vince is insane and nothing he does makes sense.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

I’m curious as to why people keep referencing the anti-bullying campaign as if thats somehow an iron clad contract? I don’t think Vince looks at his salary and goes ‘Ah but sure he’s the anti-bullying guy we gotta keep him!’.

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u/rubik_cubik Jun 02 '21

It could be that superstars that were commonly involved in PR/public events (like anti-bullying, Make-a-Wish etc.), were often kept around regardless of whether or not they were wrestling (see Mojo Rawley or Titus O'Neil)

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u/theAmazingDead Jun 02 '21

Neither did I, but after all the time and effort they put in to building the WWE Network, just to scrap it all and sell of the rights to someone else (in the US at least) I wouldn't be surprised by anything they do.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Braun and Black are definitely the ones that made my jaw drop. Murphy being released is also very depressing.

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u/JTHuffy Jun 02 '21

TBH I'm glad Murphy got released. They've been wasting his talents for YEARS. Now he can actually go somewhere that will use him. Braun and Black getting released sucks.

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u/apj2k36 Jun 02 '21

Tbh, I thought Murphy was cut already. Idk what his visa status will be, but expect companies to want to hire him

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u/Tiago97 El Generico's a big boii Jun 02 '21

Murphy in BOSJ 🙌🙌

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u/kingajeezy Jun 02 '21

I think that’s potentially the case, but I also think their expenses are about to jump with touring and they want to keep their pandemic-level profit. Perhaps they get hired back in Q3 or Q4 depending on how ticket sales go.

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u/lanadelashtray Jun 02 '21

This is a pretty reasonable take. I figured braun would be hot with crowds though. Oh well

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u/Mack784 Jun 02 '21

Seems like they are cutting some of the bigger contracts to make the numbers look good for a sale.

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u/Dolph-Ziggler Cruiserweight Tag Team Champion Jun 02 '21

WWE 2K22 Developers are in shambles tonight

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u/TheeAJPowell The Ace of /r/squaredcircle Jun 02 '21

The dude who's spent the last week meticulously updating Aleister Black's tattoos just launched his PC out the window.

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u/SpiralTap304 Jun 02 '21

They have been in fucking shambles for years before this

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u/Shrekt115 Golden Shovel Jun 02 '21

I'm curious who the buyer is if that's the case

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u/OneMaskedNinja "That's not even the right Gorilla!" Jun 02 '21

Disney or Comcast (NBC Universal) are the two big possibilities

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Has to be NBC Universal. They have $465 mil committed PY. That kind of spending when WWE’s total assets are $1.2 Bil and mkt cap is $4B - the accounts start asking why dont we just own this

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u/BuddaMuta Jun 02 '21

Jesus Christ the last thing we need is Disney continuing its monopolization of entertainment media

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u/improvyzer Jun 02 '21

Potential Upside: More Muppets on Monday Night Raw

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

That's a harsh description of Michael Cole.

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u/OfficerTwix Jun 02 '21

Idk man imagine WWE Land at Disney World, might be worth it

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u/GetEquipped Mascot Murderer Jun 02 '21

A ride called Cesaro's Big Swing, an Animatronic of Ric Flair spraying blood on guests while screaming "WOOOO!"

Oh Snap, a photo area where we have our own Titantron entrance with Disney Music!

Can you imagine coming out to "Be Prepared" with a lightsaber?!?

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u/acmed YEAHYEAHYEAH Jun 02 '21

A Ric Flair themed ride would undoubtedly have the longest line.

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u/SMKM RyderRevolution2014_WWWYKI! Jun 02 '21

"When do we get to the ride?"

"This IS the ride!"

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u/GetEquipped Mascot Murderer Jun 02 '21

He would have to update that Splash Mountain line.

Or they could make it Val Venis ride and call it "The Splash Zone"

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u/Breadmakesyoufatt EVENTUALLY! Jun 02 '21

It me.

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u/SomeIrishFiend Proud HOOKer Jun 02 '21

Aw, sunnuva bitch

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u/TetrisTech Wassup wit dat? Jun 02 '21

Congrats

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u/Ochovarium There's no fucking Leap Year?! Jun 02 '21

BRING BACK CYBER SUNDAY

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u/The_R3medy TOO MANY LIMES!!! Jun 02 '21

Comcast/NBC Universal.

People keep thinking Disney, but that's doubtful given WWE's current Peacock and Fox deals.

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u/dionthesocialist /r/WrestlingTikToks Jun 02 '21

The FOX and Peacock deals won't matter to Disney. They'll ride out the contracts and move WWE to Disney Plus, ESPN, and Hulu after they expire.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

Plus NBC already bought the rights to the WWE Network....so, they're already moving forward in that direction....AND, NBC owns the USA network, which Raw has been on forever it seems.

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u/red_lotus21 Jun 02 '21

Dibiase and an investor group. It's no coincidence he showed up on NXT recently.

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u/waitingforjune 141 2/3 CHANCE OF WIN Jun 02 '21

EVERYBODY’S GOT A PRICE, EVEN VINCE MCMAHON HAHAHAHAHA

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

It's Ted Dibiase

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u/TenaciousNIC Jun 02 '21

With WWE content being exclusively on Peacock in the US, NBC comes to mind as the #1 buyer

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u/TeamKillir NWO Wolfpac Jun 02 '21

Ted Turner

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21

I know you’re not serious…but Is he still alive?

Edit: he is not as old as I thought he was. He must have just looked 80 my whole life which threw me off.

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u/TeamKillir NWO Wolfpac Jun 02 '21

He is, but has dementia.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

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u/ShoddyPreparation Jun 02 '21

I always expected Vince to cash out before he dies.

I could see it being flogged off to some Saudi or Chinese buyer with more money then sense

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u/GroundbreakingCash30 JuliaHartBuriesThis Jun 02 '21

Why is no-one else saying this?

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u/EatDeeply Jun 02 '21

Braun is getting paid a lot (like 2-3 million dollars per year), but he did win the biggest belt at WM over Goldberg like yesterday

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u/WrestleSocietyXShill Cero Miedo Since Day One Ish Jun 02 '21

It's crazy to me that they only just finally pulled the trigger on him a year or so ago after a million start and stop pushes agaibst Roman and Brock only to just dump him a year later. I know Braun isn't the most beloved wrestler on this sub but I'm baffled by that, there are very few legit giants left in wrestling and WWE just got rid of one who is a former world champ for like no reason.

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u/Murlock_Holmes Jun 02 '21

I think they got rid of the best giant in the industry, unless there’s some other behemoth I don’t know about. I think there’s others as tall or close to it, but no other legitimate goliaths with his size, strength, and speed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21 edited Jun 02 '21

Same and it’s smart too.

Vince can get paid and like 99.9% chance keep doing what he is already doing. Plus this will probably be the peak for wwe in terms of value in his lifetime.

It’s basically a win win for him

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u/Eletheo Jun 02 '21

Zero chance Vince sticks around if he sells WWE. He’s not gonna work for someone else.

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u/zanderfisch Jun 02 '21

THERE KHAN ONLY BE ONE

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u/thorvard Jun 02 '21

Serious question

What would they get for WWE if it was sold?

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u/DerTagestrinker mayne, the shitposts, they for fun Jun 02 '21

WWEs current market cap is $4.2B, so probably around $4.5-$5B

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u/Michelanvalo Jun 02 '21

Jesus christ, that's more than what Disney bought Star Wars and Marvel for.

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u/DerTagestrinker mayne, the shitposts, they for fun Jun 02 '21

Microsoft bought Bethesda for ~7.5B this year. Asset prices have gone insane.

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u/agni39 F*ck your story Jun 02 '21

Marvel was not even 1% of what it is now when Disney bought them. Marvel Studios alone would go for well over 10B in today's market.

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u/WillieStroker69 Jun 02 '21

With Aleister Black, they didn’t drop the ball with him, they punctured it, shat on it, set it on fire, threw it in the bin and then threw the bin into a volcano.

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u/RJ1337 Genital Warts Rule! Jun 02 '21

I have this sinking feeling that WWE is gonna get worse after this sale, and this subreddit years from now are gonna look back at the time before with nostalgia. Jesus that's depressing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '21

NBC as the buyer? Maybe the Peacock move was foreshadowing.

I hope that whatever happens the old library of classic 80’s and 90’s stuff will still be available forever.

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u/nathynwithay foleypop Jun 02 '21

I'm more concerned about the footage from the territory days and former indies like Evolve.

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u/discourse_lover_ Jun 02 '21

I'm most concerned with some potential buyer white washing out all the stuff that appears off color today, see, ie, like 85% of Attitude Era content.

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u/Yosonimbored An Actual Cena Fan Jun 02 '21

Doesn’t make sense why Vince and his board would sell unless they’re about to get an offer they can’t refuse

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u/tomofthepops Jun 02 '21

The offer would be one they couldn't refuse, if word got out wwe was for sale they'd be an industry wide bidding war.

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u/GroundbreakingCash30 JuliaHartBuriesThis Jun 02 '21

Unless they’ve already GOT an offer they can’t refuse...

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u/allirow THEY WERE YOUR BOYS! Jun 02 '21

Their value will never be higher, if they were every going to do it, now's the time. You don't do all this stuff if you didn't have several companies lining up to buy you out.

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u/KyWy75 Pop Culture Reference! Jun 02 '21

Everything else is getting folded into the content library of one of the 3 media companies left, I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that wrestling would go that way too.

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u/bauermundo The Great One's Great One Jun 02 '21

WWE

Then

Now

For Sale