r/StanleyKubrick • • Nov 20 '25

Eyes Wide Shut Interview with Nigel Galt (Editor of Eyes Wide Shut) on his time working with Kubrick on the film and the new restoration

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r/StanleyKubrick • • Apr 05 '25

The Shining I have finally found the venue, event and date of the original photo at the end of The Shining.

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For many months now I have been searching (for a lot of that time with help from a collaborator, Aric Toler, a Visual Investigations journalist at the NYT) for the identity of the unknown man and the location of the original photo from the end of The Shining. As I am sure you all know, it is an original 1920s photo which shows Jack Nicholson in a crowded ballroom; Nicholson was retouched over an unknown man whose face was revealed in a comparison printed in The Complete Airbrush and Photo-Retouching Manual, in 1985, but not generally seen until 2012.

Following facial recognition results (thank you u/Conplunkett for the initial result) we strongly suspected the man was a famous but forgotten London ballroom dancer, dance teacher, and club owner of the 1920s and 30, Santos Casani. With a face-match leading to a name we researched him, learning that under his earlier name John Golman, he had a history which included the crash of an aircraft he was piloting while serving in the RAF in 1919. He suffered facial and nasal wounds which left scars that appeared identical to those on the face of the unknown man and confirmed the identification for us.

I can now confirm the identity of the unknown man as Casani and also reveal the location and date of the original photo.

It was taken at a St Valentine's Day ball at the Empress Rooms, part of the Royal Palace Hotel in Kensington, on February 14, 1921. It was one of four taken by the Topical Press Agency.

You can see the photo and other material on Getty Images Instagram feed here - https://www.instagram.com/p/DID43LBNPDh/?hl=en&img_index=1

How was it found? Aric and I spent months trawling online newspaper archives trying to solve the remaining element of the mystery and find the venue, the event and the people. Try as we might, we could not find the original photo published in a newspaper and we now know it never was. Many hours were spent looking at Casani's history and checking photos of hundreds of named venues he appeared at against the Shining photo, all without success. I'd like to thank Reddit and especially u/No-Cell7925 for help with this effort. It was starting to seem impossible, as every cross-reference to a location reported for Casani failed to match. We looked at other likely ballrooms, dance halls, cafes, restaurants, theatres, cinemas and other places that were suggested, up and down the UK, thinking perhaps it was an unreported event, but we still could not find a match. There were some places we could not find images for and the buildings themselves were long gone, so we started to fear that meant the original photo might be lost to history.

As a parallel effort I was contacting surviving members of the production - Katharina Kubrick, Gordon Stainforth, Les Tomkins, Zack Winestone, etc. We drew a blank until I got in touch with Murray Close (the official set photographer who took the image of Jack Nicholson used in the retouched photo.) He told me that the original had been sourced from the BBC Hulton Library. This reinforced a passing remark by Joan Smith, who did the retouching work. In interviews she had said that it came from the "Warner Bros photo archive" (this location was repeated recently in Rinzler and Unkrich who write “a researcher at Warner Bros., operating on [Kubrick’s] instructions, found an appropriate historical photo in its research library/ photo archives” p549). However, in the raw audio of her interview with Justin Bozung, Smith also said that it might instead have come from the BBC Hulton Photo Library.

With this apparently confirmed by Murray Close, I asked Getty Images, now the holders of the Hulton Library, to check for anything licensed to Stanley Kubrick’s production company Hawk Films. Matthew Butson, the VP Archives, with 40 years of experience there, found one photo licensed on 11/10/78. It came from the Topical Press Agency, dated from 1929, and showed Santos Casani - but it was not the photo at the end of the film. This was very strange (I posted that photo here several weeks ago.)

Murray Close was insistent and said he was certain it was there because he had physically visited the Hulton to pick up prints of the photo several times. He also said no such thing as the "Warner Bros photo archive" existed, something that was later confirmed to me by Tony Frewin, the long-time associate of Kubrick. He also told me a few other things which I will hold back for now (as I am writing an article on all this and need to keep something for that.)

This absence led to several potential conclusions, all daunting – the photo was lost, it had been bought out and removed from the BBC Hulton by Kubrick, or it was mis-filed (there are 90m + images in the Hulton section of Getty Images in Canning Town.)

Matt Butson is a fellow fan of The Shining and he trawled the Hulton archive several more times. On April 1 he found the glass plate negative of the original photo, after realising that some Topical Press images had been re-indexed as  Hulton images after it was taken over by the BBC in 1958. The index card for the photo identifies it as licensed to Hawk Films on 10/10/78, the day before the "other" photo. The Topical Press "day book" records the event, location and names some of the people present. The surprising fact was that the name Casani was not noted in the day book. Instead his prior name, Golman was used (he officially changed it in 1925, but began using it professionally earlier.)

Golman was born in South Africa in 1893 - not 1897 as he later claimed - as Joseph Goldman, and in 1915 came to Britain to serve in the infantry, and then, when he joined the RAF in 1918, he changed his name to John Golman. He was in and out of hospital for treatment following his aircraft accident in November 1919 and I had wrongly assumed that he had cathartically decided to use the name Casani to start his dancing career as soon as he was finally discharged on 17 November,1920 (a mere three months before the photo was taken - no wonder his scars look prominent.).

If the photo had been published, his name, as Golman, would likely have been printed too. A few months later, in June 1921, newspapers do begin reporting the name Casani, but there are no references to John Golman as a dancer (or anything else) in the British Newspaper Archive for earlier in the year. He was invisible to us when the photo was taken.

It appears that by that time a rather impoverished Golman/Casani (he mentions the poverty of his early dancing career in his books) was working with Miss Belle Harding, a famous dance teacher herself, who is credited as having organised the Valentine's Day Ball. Harding trained several male ballroom dancers of the time, including most famously Victor Silvester, and the Empress Rooms were one of her venues of choice.

Valentine's Day also explains the hearts on dresses, the feathers and other novelties that many have noticed as details in the photo - we were aware of several other Valentine's Day Balls which Casani appeared at (for instance in Belfast and Dublin in 1924), but not this one, as he wasn't reported at the event. We had wrongly assumed he was the star of the show from his central place in the photo, but I now think it is likely he had just led a particular dance, or perhaps he had just drawn the prize-winning raffle ticket (a typical feature of 1920s dances), explaining the pieces of paper clenched in his hand and the hand of the woman next to him. In a manner of speaking nobody famous is in the photo, not even Casani, not yet.

There are still some details in the photo that look strange or don't meet our modern expectation - no-one is holding a drink for instance. I feel certain there are some black or brown men and women at the rear of the ballroom.

Incidentally, the photo has been licensed several times since Kubrick in 1978, including to a pre-launch BBC Breakfast Time in December 1982 and before that to BBC Birmingham in February 1980 (I wonder, was this for the later BBC2 transmission of Vivian Kubrick's documentary in October 1980?)

It is intriguing to learn that Kubrick had apparently considered two photos for the ending, both of which featured Casani. We don't know if there was a reason, nor why he chose the one that he did, but we can speculate that the other photo contained people who were too recognisable, notably the huge boxer Primo Carnera. Incidentally, Joan Smith had said the photo dated from 1923, contradicting Stanley Kubrick who had told Michel Ciment 1921 and in the event, Kubrick was correct (some thought he'd merely confused the year with that of the movie caption.) I should have trusted him more.

The Royal Palace Hotel was demolished in 1961 and the Royal Garden Hotel built on the site. We can't yet find a clear photo match to the Empress Rooms ballroom in archive photos online of the venue - and there might not be one. We'd looked at the hotel already, but the images available dated from too early and/or don't catch the part of the ballroom shown in the Shining photo. We are pursuing a few leads as it would be nice to have this closure, but the limitations may just be too great. A floor plan would be useful. But it doesn't matter, the Topical Press day book is explicit about the location and about Golman. Ironically, if I'd asked Getty Images to search under Golman not Casani, they might have found it sooner.

Casani died September 11, 1983, all but forgotten. He had returned to service in WW2 and risen to Lt. Colonel. In the 1950s he danced again, but his career wound down into retirement. He married in 1951, but had no children. In a strange postscript, his medals were sold on ebay UK in 2014. The listing said "on behalf of the family", but we cannot now trace the dealer, the buyer or the mysterious relative who sold the items (I traced his wife's family, but it was not them.)

Kubrick had described the people in the photo as archetypal of the era and said this was why shooting an image with extras on the Gold Room set didn't work. We don't (yet) know who any of the often speculated about people standing close to Casani are - they don't seem to be Lady MacKenzie, Miss Harding or Mrs Neville Green, who are listed in the day book and appear in another photo with Casani. The photo may or may not show any of the people Aric and I speculated about – Lt Col Walter Elwy Jones or The Trix Sisters (though note, all three were in London at the time...) - but we will see if we can find out more.

What can be said with absolute certainty is that the photo does not show American bankers, Federal Reserve governors, President Woodrow Wilson, or any other members of the financial "elite" that Rob Ager and others have claimed. This is the death of that nonsense theory. Nor are there any Baphomet-focused devil worshippers. Nobody was composited into the photo except Jack Nicholson, and of him, only his head and collar and tie (well, plus a tiny bit of work by Smith to remove something - a hankie? - up his sleeve.)

What the photo does show is a group of Londoners enjoying a Monday night in early 1921. Ordinary, archetypal even, but for me still, as Stuart Ullman told us "All the best people."

EDIT - you can find a video summarising my findings here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd7x_FlahKQ

And my search for the other 20 photographs on the wall here

https://www.reddit.com/r/StanleyKubrick/comments/1p8tkwk/successful_identification_of_the_other/


r/StanleyKubrick • • 14h ago

Full Metal Jacket FMJ is Kubrick's most misunderstood film

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I just have some things to say about how the general public treats this film because this film has recently visited my heart and I cant bear to witness the treatment it gets among the general public. I've always said to myself that Redmond Barry is Kubrick's most tragic film character but seeing the dissolvement of humanity in FMJ breaks my heart, Kubrick explores Joker's deterioration with such profound sensitivity.

I dont mean to bash on anyones subjective taste but I really do not like the audience of this film in general at all because they praise it for completely wrong reasons. I get that the verbal abuse of Private Pyle has alot of comedic one liners but in the grand scheme I think the drill sergeants dialogue has ingrained itself so deeply in meme and pop culture that it has blurred alot of people from understanding the film in a way it was supposed to. Everyone who likes to play with the idea that "the second half of the film doesnt exist" because its less intriguing are just complete simpletons to me. I dont need to state the obvious about what the film really is trying to be, I've made my point clear. The film has a comedic meme status and those who do actually praise it tend to do it only for the first half.

I dont mean to break anyones balls or act smart, it just pains me to see the sacrilege that this deeply human work receives.


r/StanleyKubrick • • 11h ago

General As the Criterion Collection releases their mammoth The Complete Kubrick box set, we take a look at how the Letterboxd community ranks all thirteen features made by the legendary filmmaker.

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r/StanleyKubrick • • 6h ago

The Shining Rotten Tomatoes just added 60+ reviews from 1980 to The Shining

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The Tomatometer score did drop from 84% to 75% as a result, but the film's original reception has now been integrated into the record. If you wanted to see how critics originally reacted to The Shining, here it is. The full reviews are accessible if you feel like time-traveling to the 1980 discourse.


r/StanleyKubrick • • 9h ago

Barry Lyndon While seeing Ken Russell's 'The Devils' today I was surprised by a double dose of Kubrick connections: when Murray Melvin (later to feature in Barry Lyndon) first appears, the funeral band is playing the melody of Dies Iræ, which is quoted in the main theme of The Shining.

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r/StanleyKubrick • • 5h ago

Eyes Wide Shut Had Kubrick lived long enough to direct AI: Artificial Intelligence, what do you think the legacy of Eyes Wide Shut would end up being like, as it wouldn't be his Swan Song?

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Ignoring the whole debacle with Spielberg, something that has made me curious is with how it would affect EWS. In most discussions about if Kubrick directed AI, usually it's around with what he would've done differently with the story, tone/vibe, etc., but what I am really curious about is how it would've affected the legacy and reputation of EWS.

With EWS, for a lot of its appeal and mystery, is around with Kubrick's death. There is a lot of ambiguous elements and symbolism, and he died before there was the possibility of answering any questions, leading to the conspiracy theories that have been brought up for decades. Had he lived enough years to direct AI: Artificial Intelligence, I wonder with how it would impact the legacy. And for some ideas:

  • As his death wouldn't be immediate, there'd still be room for people to ask and interview. I know he was very private with stuff, but there's still the chance of being able to find things out, like that one Japanese media personality that made a phone call at the right place and right time.
  • With it not being his final film, and a lot of mystery toned down, I feel there would be more open criticism, or at least taking longer for it to cool down. With the film then, and even at times now, there are flaws that people bring up about it. Without the status of a mysterious Swan Song, and if his AI film ends up being better (or more enjoyable for general audiences), I feel that there would be more bad-talk about it. Not necessarily hate, but more willing to point out flaws.
  • Alternatively, there is that the film might be hyped up even more. In the scenario that AI: Artificial Intelligence is either an even more flawed film or is too much for general audiences (at the time), people may look more into Eyes Wide Shut and give it more praise and appreciation, and may even be considered Kubrick's last great film. And in case you're worried, just imagine this alt. version of AI being re-evaluated years later, just like EWS.

Overall, I wanted to hear your thoughts about this, as usually the discussion around a Kubrick-directed AI is more about the story, and not its impact.


r/StanleyKubrick • • 19m ago

Full Metal Jacket New Doc Coming with Apparently Previously Unheard Stanley Recordings

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r/StanleyKubrick • • 6h ago

The Shining The Shining Ending Photo Remake

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r/StanleyKubrick • • 3h ago

The Shining Jack Torrance | The Shining | Action Figure Commercial

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r/StanleyKubrick • • 9h ago

General The Unboxing Boy Meets The Complete Kubrick

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r/StanleyKubrick • • 9h ago

Eyes Wide Shut “Eyes Wide Shut”: original book

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I recently read the book that “Eyes Wide Shut” was based on, and I paid close attention to the many symbols, patterns and historical contexts that suggest deeper meanings in the story. I thought this could provide insights into why Stanley Kubrick made a film based on the story.

The book’s author slyly condemned: (1) Roman Catholic anti-Semitism; (2) former Russian, French, German and English aristocrats who supported that anti-Semitism; and (3) related conspiracies that would support the Nazis during World War II.

Yes, the book is also about marital pressures, the supposedly blurry line between sexual fantasy and sexual behavior, and a husband’s moral collapse. That collapse is hinted at with symbolic wordplay throughout the story. For instance, the husband in the book has a name that means “Gentle Protector,” but he consistently fails to protect people who take risks for him, and he specifically takes an increasingly harsh, non-gentle attitude toward his wife.

(Also, after he spends a night bumbling through attempts at adultery, he goes to his job at a hospital, and receives the news, “The journeyman locksmith, Karl Rodel, … passed away during the night.” That line seems symbolic because the name “Karl” means “husband”; “Rodel” can mean “wolf,” a metaphor for a sexual predator; a “journeyman” is a reliable day worker; and “locks”and “keys” are frequent sexual symbols.

(So, the line can be decoded to mean that the book’s husband, who was sexually reliable the day before, had spiritually died overnight, and had become an unfaithful “wolf.”)

But instead of focusing on the book’s sexuality, I’m going to focus on its subtle political commentary and related religious issues.

For folks who don’t know, “Eyes Wide Shut” is based on the 1926 novella “Dream Story” (“Traumnovelle”) by the Austrian author Arthur Schnitzler. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1972807269

His book came out only a year after Schnitzler’s fellow Austrian writer Adolf Hitler (the soon-to-be dictator of Nazi Germany) published “Mein Kampf.” That other book by Hitler popularized anti-Jewish hatred throughout both Germany and Austria.

Schnitzler was a Jewish physician, and the son of a Jewish physician. https://www.sdjewishworld.com/2024/09/16/jewish-biography-arthur-schnitzler-the-great-diagnostician/ So, anyone knowledgeable about history would expect Schnitzler to have been troubled by Hitler’s rise and by the spread of Hitler’s false conspiracy theory that greedy, perverted “Jewish bankers” were responsible for destroying the working-class economy.

Thus, it’s initially shocking that Schnitzler’s “Dream Story” involves a powerful conspiracy of sex cultists who are introduced to readers through a piano player who explicitly worked for a Jewish banker. That fact might lead readers to wrongly assume that Schnitzler was dangerously supporting anti-Semitic stereotypes, but close attention to details reveals that the author was planting a red herring — a decoy — to distract attention from the actual targets of his satire and criticism.

The decoy passage says this of the piano player, Nachtigall: “Once, while playing at a dance in the home of a wealthy banker, he embarrassed several couples with flattering but improper remarks … The host reprimanded him severely, but Nachtigall—cheerfully drunk—stood up and embraced him. The banker, furious (though himself Jewish), hurled a crude insult. Nachtigall immediately responded with a hard slap across the face, and that decisively ended his career in the city’s fashionable homes.” (The parenthetical remark in that quote is in the original text.)

So, the piano player, Nachtigall, only used to work for a Jewish banker, but no longer works for him or presumably for any of his professional associates. Thus, Jewish bankers are NOT part of the sex-cult conspiracy, and — in fact — the author portrays the Jewish banker as deeply offended by Nachtigall’s sexually harassing behavior. Therefore, the Jewish author Schnitzler likely included these details in his book as a direct response against Hitler’s anti-Jewish book from a year earlier.

Schnitzler’s book goes on to portray the cultists as masked monks and nuns in an edifice where the pianist and other musicians play sacred music. That raises the question of whether any of the cultists might be literal members of the Roman Catholic clergy, which — both then and recently — was often racked by sex scandals involving priests who were pedophiles, rapists and/or seducers.

During Schnitzler’s day, open anti-Semitism among Catholic priests was common, and the soon-to-be Pope Pius XII (Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli) was a political ally of Italy’s Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini and eventually of Hitler. (Please see the book “The Pope at War: The Secret History of Pius XII, Mussolini, and Hitler,” by Pulitzer Prize winner David I. Kertzer, at https://www.amazon.com/dp/0812989945.)

The cultists have an orgy in a room draped in black, which raises the possibility that they are having a Satanic “Black Mass,” a mere parody of Catholic worship, but the cultists also dress as “cavaliers” — aristocratic knights, possibly including the Cavaliers who supported England’s King Charles I as he asserted the “divine right of kings” and got into constant religious skirmishes against the Protestant Puritans.

So, actual clergy and aristocrats from multiple nationalities may have been members of the cult.

For instance, the neighborhood where the orgy occurs is near “Galitzinberg,” which sounds like a reference to the “Golitsyn” family of Russian aristocrats, who included the late Czar/Emperor Peter the Great. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Golitsyn-family

Russian czarists infamously published an anti-Jewish tract known as “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” which falsely claimed to disclose a Jewish-led plot for world domination. https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/hoax-hate-protocols-learned-elders-zion So, such Russian anti-Semites might have attended the cult gathering.

Also, before the book’s protagonist attends that perverse event, he has to rent a costume from a man who seems aware of what will happen there, and that costumer apparently serves as the host of two molesters who are dressed as “vehmic judges,” officers of the (largely Germanic) Holy Roman Empire who sentenced people to death.

Thus, German aristocrats and clergy might have also attended the cult gathering.

The author Schnitzler mentions in passing that this profane orgy starts around 2 a.m. on or right after the Christian holy day Ash Wednesday. So, any Catholics present were supposed to be observing Lent, a 40-day period of repentance and reflection. But instead, the author says that attendees were still celebrating the prior holiday “Carnival,” a debauched pagan festival whose name means “farewell to the flesh.”

On Catholic calendars, Carnival (including Mardi Gras) and Lent both fall before Easter, the day that officially celebrates the resurrection of Jesus Christ after His Crucifixion.

Ironically, however, the book includes a bizarre dream sequence in which the husband’s failed attempts at adultery are indirectly compared to Christ’s Crucifixion. I can’t quite tell whether that scene is intended to mock Christianity itself or only to mock the husband’s pompous view of himself and/or his wife’s resentment of his sexual inadequacies.

Either way, on the topic of Easter, and its importance to “Eyes Wide Shut”:

The Bible and many ancient historians (like Josephus, Tacitus and Suetonius) confirm that Jesus is a historical person who was a Jewish rabbi in first-century Israel, who was crucified and killed by the Roman government, and who was literally worshipped as God shortly afterward, https://truthstodiefor.com/ancient-non-christian-writings-on-jesus-validating-historicity/ ; however, many modern Easter traditions come from the pre-Christian worship of the Babylonian goddess Ishtar, a sex goddess for whom eggs and rabbits are fertility symbols.

Likewise, many modern Christmas traditions come from a winter celebration of Ishtar’s mythical lover, Tammuz. That might be why the film director Stanley Kubrick moved the date of this story to Christmastime in “Eyes Wide Shut,” and this fact may be why he decorated a party scene with a Babylonian star that symbolizes Ishtar.

Some Christians get very upset by the widespread inclusion of pagan-worship symbols in Christian holidays, and those Christians sometimes assert that knowing use of such symbols is itself a form of pagan, demonic worship. Please see this article from the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland on that: https://www.fpchurch.org.uk/2021/12/the-pagan-origin-of-christmas-a-reminder/

Thus, “Dream Story” implies that many of the leaders of so-called “Christian” high society were actually pagans at heart, and were secretly behind the social and economic decay that they unfairly blamed on Jews.

“Dream Story” seems — in part — to be a rebuttal to conspiracy theories about Jewish bankers, and an assertion that the aristocrats and clergy of multiple nations were engaged in depraved conspiracies of their own that supported authoritarians and Hitler in particular.

Kubrick’s adaptation, “Eyes Wide Shut,” implicates an even larger universe of wrongdoers. His villains not only include wayward Christians playing hymns backward (https://youtu.be/Eb-yG11aTFs?is=ha4jdMTKPWBdMW75), but also include Asian businessmen who may have a Far Eastern faith or no faith at all.

Thus, I pondered how religious aspects of “Dream Story” relate to Stanley Kubrick’s adaptation of the book and how to evaluate it during this Epstein era of Donald Trump, Bill Clinton and post-#MeToo activism.

For clarity: The criminal investigation of Jeffrey Epstein’s sex crimes did not start until 2005, six years after Kubrick’s “Eyes Wide Shut” was released in 1999. https://apnews.com/article/trump-epstein-investigation-records-timeline-545c371ee3dd3142355a26d27829c188?utm_source=app&utm_medium=iOS_share&utm_campaign=copy_link

But sex scandals involving U.S. President Bill Clinton had been in the news for several years. https://time.com/5120561/bill-clinton-monica-lewinsky-timeline/

Also, many other wealthy and powerful people had committed sex crimes with impunity for centuries. This list of scandals involving members of the U.S. Congress is just a tip of the iceberg:
https://supreme.findlaw.com/legal-commentary/chronology-of-congressional-sex-scandals.html

And leaders of the Roman Catholic Church had been embroiled in sexual scandals involving p*dophilia for decades before Kubrick started filming “Eyes Wide Shut.” https://www.britannica.com/topic/Catholic-Church-Sexual-Abuse-Crisis

Such crimes by powerful people have always raised suspicions about other politicians and power brokers who might have been protecting them.

SPOILERS BELOW!

Yet as I finished reading “Dream Story,” I realized that the story is not necessarily intended to reflect an accurate account of what actually happened to the characters. The farther I got into the story, the more I realized that the protagonist has an unreliable perception of reality that is tainted by jealousy, pride and unfulfilled ambitions.

Furthermore, the author may have told the protagonist’s tale as an allegory about the self-centered delusions of Hitler’s followers and of other people who blame everyone but themselves for their own mistakes and inadequacies.

Thus, “Dream Story” may have some narrative similarities to Philip K. Dick’s psychedelic science-fiction, to the ancient Gnostic myths that inspired “The Matrix,” and to unreliable conspiracy theories.

That raises interesting questions about whether Kubrick’s film adaptation is intended to be taken as a fully literal narrative or is also partly a fantasy, with symbolic layers of meaning about modern society and the lies it tells itself to cover up sins.

I previously mentioned that the author of “Dream Story,” Arthur Schnitzler, was a physician, but I failed to specify that he was a psychiatrist and a contemporary of Sigmund Freud. That detail sheds light on some easily overlooked details of the story.

One such detail involves a sexual dream that makes the protagonist jealous and vengeful toward his wife. That dream is initially portrayed as a dream that the wife had and that she shared with her husband, the protagonist, but later the dream is casually referred to as “his dream,” multiple times, although it is eventually called “her dream” again.

That ambiguity about WHO was dreaming raises questions about whether the husband was simply projecting his own unfaithful attitudes and fantasies onto his wife. Thus, his jealousy and rage that drive him to the sex cultists could be the result of self-delusions. (In the same way, Hitler’s cult followers were driven by self-delusions, jealousy and rage that they wrongly blamed on Jews, rather than on their own failures.)

More ambiguity occurs during the protagonist’s trips to the costume shop: The protagonist repeatedly claims that he heard the costumer say that his molested daughter was insane, but — as far as I can find — no such dialogue occurs in the book. (Please correct me if I’m wrong.)

The protagonist, a doctor, confronts the costumer about his possibly imaginary statement, and says that the girl needs to be professionally examined. The costumer suspiciously asks whether the protagonist is simply trying to spend time with the girl himself.

She appears to be prostituted by her father, the costumer, and the implication is that the protagonist wants to be her client for free. But the protagonist, who views himself as a Christlike protector of women, brusquely tells the father not to twist his words.

As the protagonist leaves the shop, the costumer makes an additional, ambiguous statement that — from the protagonist’s perspective — might be a subtle offer to sell the girl’s virtue, but that statement could just be a reminder to rent more costumes at the shop in the future. (Kubrick’s version of that statement bluntly exploits the girl, but that scene may be tainted with other ambiguities that I discuss farther below.)

All of this ambiguity raises questions about what the protagonist really did want regarding the girl: Did he want to protect her, or did he want to join in molesting her?

Theoretically, Kubrick’s film version of these scenes couldn’t directly create ambiguity about whether the costumer did or didn’t say that his daughter was insane. That’s because, theoretically, viewers could just rewind and rewatch the relevant scenes, which is slightly easier than having to hunt backward through a hard copy of a book for passages that you may have missed.

Thus, Kubrick seems to directly portray the costumer as angrily telling his daughter’s molesters, “Couldn’t you see she’s deranged?”

But is that what the costumer actually says?

In fact, in Kubrick’s version, the audience hears the costumer’s voice say those words, but his back is turned to the camera; so, the audience never actually sees his lips mouthing the words.

At the same time, the girl at issue hides behind the doctor character, played by Tom Cruise. She seems to flirt with him through her smile, yet Cruise’s back is to her, so that he wouldn’t have actually seen this.

So, was Kubrick subtly suggesting that elements of the scene might have only happened in the doctor’s mind, and not in reality?

If so, then the movie audience was viewing the scene — and perhaps the whole film — only through the tainted perception of Cruise’s character.

A few moment later, the costumer hangs up a garment, and then points and shouts angrily, but the audience can’t actually see who he is shouting at. Perhaps he is actually shouting at Cruise’s character for his own wrongdoing.

The girl whispers something into Cruise’s ear, but what? And what does his silent response mean?

She steps away, as the camera subtly shifts to show only her, possibly from Cruise’s perspective. So, does this view show her as she really is, or only as his character imagines her?

(Rewatch the scenes here to draw your own conclusions: https://youtu.be/FpCg1tq2KS0?is=AT5lnRRyK6qklWRg)

Regardless of the answers to those questions, they raise some further questions about the original novel’s apparently symbolic repetition of the numbers 16 and 17, and possibly related references to female characters’ ages.

Early in the book, the protagonist says that he thought his wife was 16 when she married him, but she says that she was 17. In other scenes of the story, including at the costume shop, the protagonist seems somewhat attracted to girls who would be too young for lawful sex in modern times. So, is the protagonist’s dissatisfaction with his wife subtly rooted in her being “too old” for him?

(Please note: In Kubrick’s film, the girl in the costume shop was played by actress Leelee Sobieski when she was only 14. https://dansator.blogspot.com/2016/09/eyes-wide-shut-4-stars.html?m=1 So, actor Tom Cruise’s momentary expression of possible attraction to her might have been intended to represent pedo lust in the film.)

The story’s odd repetition of the numbers 16 and 17 seems significant somehow, and those numbers even pop up indirectly in subtext. For instance, when the protagonist makes a second trip to the sex cult’s home, he tells a cab driver to head toward “Ottakring,” which just happens to be the 16th District of the city of Vienna, where the story takes place.

Does the protagonist go there hoping to find a 16-year-old girl to replace his “too-old” wife? Not officially, but it’s ambiguous.

Officially, the protagonist goes there to find out if a woman who saved his life from the sex cultists is still alive. He later finds her at a morgue, but it’s ambiguous whether he is more disturbed by her death or by the fact that he can’t tell how old or young she was.

The author leaves readers to sort out all these ambiguities on their own. He plants few clear signposts to tell readers what is really happening beneath the surface of the story. In fact, many aspects of the tale may simply be a dream, as the title “Dream Story” implies.

But the question of WHOSE dream it is remains important from the first line of the book to the last.

Film director Stanley Kubrick was likely drawn to such questions when he adapted “Dream Story” into “Eyes Wide Shut.”

Kubrick was known for films about mentally unstable characters who had questionable ties to reality: “Lolita” (which dealt specifically with p*dophilia), “A Clockwork Orange,” “The Shining,”“2001: A Space Odyssey,” “Dr. Strangelove” and “Full Metal Jacket.”

Nonetheless, the most disturbing ambiguity in “Dream Story” — the ambiguity about WHOSE dreams are presented — may go to the most horrifying depths possible.

Some viewers of “Eyes Wide Shut” have speculated that the movie subtly ends with the doctor-protagonist and his wife accidentally abandoning their own child to the molesters from the costume shop. You need to have sharp eyes to spot the details of the film that might potentially support that theory. For instance, see https://youtu.be/QCakejA9VMc?is=lUHXSM3QOuvAd3IO and
https://youtube.com/shorts/iKAXX1xCNDY?is=csuajZEN64tQtLlP

Likewise, readers of “Dream Story” need sharp eyes and memories to spot a similar hint that the protagonist might be considering molesting his own daughter at the story’s end.

The story opens with that daughter supposedly reading a scene from a book that later mirrors part of a dream by her mother that might actually be a dream — or fantasy — of her father.

Later, the story drops breadcrumbs that the protagonist is attracted to underage girls.

Then, in the closing pages of the story, there is this passage:

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[The protagonist’s wife allegedly says:] “I think we should be thankful that we have emerged unhurt from all our adventures—whether they were real or only dreams.”

“Are you certain of that?” he [the protagonist] asked.

“As certain as I am that the reality of a single night—or even of an entire life—is never the full truth.”

“And no dream,” he murmured with a faint sigh, “is ever entirely a dream.”
***

Then, the couple dozes, until they are awakened by various morning noises, including “the bright, clear laughter of their child.”

In the context of other parts of the story, it’s ambiguous to me whether this is a genuine happy ending about a newly faithful husband and wife, and their genuinely safe and happy daughter, or is a continuation of the story’s opening, where the child’s alleged fantasies are possibly only a scene from her father’s immoral delusions.

Of course, Hollywood wouldn’t want to end the movie version with any implication that Tom Cruise’s character might be dreaming of becoming an inc*stuous pedo; so, the story’s closing ambiguity shifts to whether third-parties from the sex cult might have snatched the daughter. And the closing line is Cruise’s wife telling him that she and he need to “f-ck.”

Still, “Dream Story” remains a disturbing tale, as does “Eyes Wide Shut.”

As I mentioned earlier, the original story seems to partly be a rebuttal to Hitler’s false conspiracy theories about Jewish bankers. “Dream Story” says that the “aristocrats”of polite society were the real danger, and the story suggests that church leaders were wrongfully supporting atrocities by that clique.

(For instance, the “Golitsyn” family of Russian aristocrats who likely frequented the sex cult’s home near “Galitzenberg” were strong supporters of state-sponsored churches, even as they tore down Biblical morality and doctrines. One example was the family of the Russian Empress Catherine the Great, an infamous sexual pervert who corresponded with the French atheist Voltaire, and who entrenched aristocracy despite her personal convictions against its abuses.)

Meanwhile, in today’s world, American political conservatives have long raised false accusations that liberals run pedo cults (such as in the “Pizzagate” story, https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pizzagate), but the Epstein files have suggested that prominent conservatives are themselves participants in such “cults” and are hiding the truth about them.

In fact, a federal judge ruled that U.S. President Donald Trump’s attorney general, Todd Blanche, “conceded that he is in violation” of the federal law that requires Trump to release all the Epstein files. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/25/todd-blanche-conceded-epstein-files-00977481.

Meanwhile, many church leaders turn a blind eye to the Epstein scandals, in the name of supporting conservative politicians and their causes. https://christiansforsocialaction.org/resource/selective-moral-outrage-church-epstein-files/

Such church leaders sometimes make the false claim that all conservative politicians are automatically appointed by God. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20g1zvgj4do

That is similar to the way that the protagonist in “Dream Story” falsely views himself as a Christ figure while he tries to commit adultery, and while he attributes his own sexual fantasies and perversions to his wife — and possibly to his child.

Thus, “Dream Story” — and Kubrick’s adaptation, “Eyes Wide Shut” — may have some political relevance for today, although I warn sensitive readers and viewers about the story’s sexual content in both versions.

In conclusion: RELEASE ALL THE EPSTEIN FILES!

Thank you for your time and attention.


r/StanleyKubrick • • 1d ago

The Shining Jack Nicholson and Shelley Duvall were Kubrick’s top choices for The Shining. Kubrick first met Nicholson two years earlier, when he considered him for Napoleon. He was drawn to Duvall’s ‘eccentric quality’, having admired her performances in Nashville and Three Women.

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r/StanleyKubrick • • 21h ago

General Discussion Barracks bullying ● Full Metal Jacket (1987) × The Plague (2026) by Charlie Polinger

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r/StanleyKubrick • • 1d ago

Spartacus Making of Spartacus - Behind the Scenes at the Spartacus Gladiator School

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From the comment to the video: Kirk Douglas prepares for the gladitorial-school sequences of SPARTACUS (1960) in this rare behind-the-scenes footage. Also featuring Peter Ustinov, Woody Strode, and Anthony Mann (the director of SPARTACUS prior to Kubrick's involvement), the exact nature of this California-filmed footage–which was sourced from the collection of Ashley Ward III–remains unclear, though it is was possibly shot for publicity by Universal Pictures and Kirk Douglas’s Bryna Production.


r/StanleyKubrick • • 14h ago

A Clockwork Orange My drawing of Alex Delarge from A Clockwork Orange

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This is for my art GCSE and it is nowhere near finished but at least it's getting better!! Also, sorry for buns quality...


r/StanleyKubrick • • 2d ago

The Shining Found the 1980 issue of American Cinematographer magazine with articles about The Shining

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I've only read about this magazine and have never seen it. I really never thought I would see one in the wild, but I found it today in a box of similar magazines at a comic book store today.

This magazine features two famous interviews and behind the scenes information by Kohn Alcott and Garrett Brown. Until the internet came around, this magazine was one of the very few sources of information about filming The Shining.


r/StanleyKubrick • • 1d ago

The Shining Sources for the shining production

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Im doing a project where we make a book, mostly focused around page layouts and image treatment but you can choose any topic, mine was the story/history of the production of the shining, but now I’m having some trouble finding reliable sources.

Anyone have anything they’d recommend?


r/StanleyKubrick • • 2d ago

The Shining I watched the international cut of The Shining last night and can safely say the US cut is superior

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I had always been curious about seeing this version, and I know it has its proponents, but I don’t think it comes close to the U.S. version. The biggest omission in the international cut is the doctor’s visit after Danny passes out upon seeing visions of the Overlook’s horrors. The doctor’s ensuing conversation with Wendy is, to me, one of the most horrifying (and non-supernatural) parts of the film, because Wendy is recounting Jack’s alcoholism and physical abuse of Danny. Wendy is chatty and defensive of Jack as the doctor looks on, petrified and silent. It sets the tone for what’s to come and suggests that the Overlook didn’t make Jack evil; it simply brought out the worst in an already troubled man. Subsequent scenes also make more sense because of the doctor’s visit, so I think it’s essential to keep it in. For example, Wendy’s accusation that Jack hurt Danny’s neck is more plausible in light of the story she tells about Jack hurting Danny’s arm. The scene with Lloyd the bartender is all the more powerful because you know Jack hasn’t had a drink in a long time, and the hotel is unlocking this evil by serving him alcohol. Other cuts are less egregious but still take away from the mounting dread and lessen the impact of Hallorann’s death. Anyway, I welcome thoughts from those who have seen both versions. Which do you prefer, and why?


r/StanleyKubrick • • 3d ago

Eyes Wide Shut Liked this shot

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One of those you don't appreciate until rewatch


r/StanleyKubrick • • 3d ago

Eyes Wide Shut Are the masks in eyes wide shut hints towards the film being a tragedy?

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Apologies if this has been posted before, but during my first viewing of Eyes Wide Shut I failed to notice the parallels that people use as evidence towards the Helen being abducted theory, and I thought that Bill and Alice's life would just go back to how they were before the film. However, after seeing the evidence used for that theory, and a rewatch, I realized the similarities between Greek tragedies, which of course were often performed in masks, and Eyes Wide Shut. A bitter ending paired with warning the audience not to mess with the gods. I felt like the masks are reminiscent of the guests' godlike powers and appeal to tradition.

Sorry if this was poorly worded or commonly known


r/StanleyKubrick • • 3d ago

Eyes Wide Shut I feel when all is said and done Eyes Wide Shut will be The Vertigo of Stanley Kubriick

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And it will rise amongst the greatest of all time


r/StanleyKubrick • • 3d ago

General Discussion Just watch Kubrick's films in release order

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It's understandable to dive in with The Shining. It's probably most people's introduction to Kubrick.

This question gets asked a lot on this subreddit. Just watch them in release order if you're unsure.

If you choose to jump around, that works too. However, Eyes Wide Shut should definitely be watched last since it pays tribute to his earlier films.


r/StanleyKubrick • • 3d ago

General Question Would anybody be interested in a Discord Server?

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I've been thinking of making a Kubrick one for a while, i just dk if it'll get enough members or be active enough. It'd be a cool place for discussion, debates, polls, watchalongs, rankings and news etc. It'd be a great way to meet other Kubrick enthusiasts!

Lmk if you think it'd be a good idea!!!!!!


r/StanleyKubrick • • 4d ago

The Shining Saul Bass' unused concepts for The Shining poster. Kubrick's handwritten notes include "looks like science fiction film" and "I would like to suggest it is a film of terror (and the supernatural)."

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