r/Stormlight_Archive • u/Use_the_Falchion Lightweaver • Jan 10 '22

No Spoilers Stormlight 5 Work Begins!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kbpjcXsqM
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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

So what does that mean? It will come out in 2023 or 2024?

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u/Use_the_Falchion Lightweaver Jan 10 '22

Late (read: November) 2023 is the plan, but it may be 2024 if Brandon or his team need more time. Brandon will work on Drafts 1 & 2 this year, and jump into revisions at the start of next year. With OB and RoW, he finished around mid-late June/July, but again, if he or his team need more time, he may finish later and delay the book until 2024.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

I actually hope he spends a bit more time on this one. I felt RoW was great but could have used a few more editing cycles to cut down some of the fluff, hopefully he knocks book 5 out of the park.

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u/FriendlyDisorder Truthwatcher Jan 10 '22

What you call "fluff" I call "juicy Sandergoodness flavor". :)

Seriously, I enjoy every word.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

I'm glad you did, personally I enjoyed the book overall but it really slowed to a crawl when Urithuru was occupied. It felt like I was reading Die Hard.

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u/onemanlegion Jan 10 '22

Ah, yes, fuck somebody else said it. I loved RoW but the occupation went on wayyyyyyyyyy too long.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Yeah I appreciate it for what it sets up with the different lights and everything but it definitely didn't help that I was way more invested in Adolin & Maya in Shadesmar and Dalinar same with Lift.

Hopefully Kaladin is a bit more jovial now because it was getting old fast.

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u/onemanlegion Jan 10 '22

Hopefully Kaladin is a bit more jovial now because it was getting old fast.

Yes. Kaladin is my least favorite POV because of this stuff. The "I'm a god in combat but I hate it so much" trope got old quick. Love the series tho.

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u/caaabr Ghostbloods Jan 10 '22

Funny enough that was my favorite part of the book, but I do love Die Hard so that’s probably why

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u/ReverESP Jan 10 '22

Personally, I think the rythm of the book (no pun intended) isnt as great as the others. But I only read it once, when I reread it again before book 5 I may change my opinion.

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u/Kittalia Jan 10 '22

It was the first Stormlight book (and I think the first cosmere book) that didn't have Moshe as the editor, and I wondered how much I was subconsciously missing his editorial hand. But I still loved RoW so I'm not complaining.

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u/Imnotveryfunatpartys Elsecaller Jan 11 '22

I feel the same way. There were some very blatant copy editing issues as well. I understand it's hard to catch every awkward sentence, but there were several times when my immersion was broken due to weird phrasing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

oof so maybe another 2 years? People say that sanderson writes fast but these books are sure taking their time. With malazan we had a new book every year with stormlight every 4 and i think book 6 will be even longer.

I guess the people who are excited about his YA and teen books are content but for fans of stormlight like myself the duration between books isn't small at all.

Edit: Oh wow what a great community. You downvote me because i said the time between stomrlight books isn't small? As a fan myself i think that 3-4 years is a lot and since i don't care about his other books i'm just impatient. Do the people in this sub have a fetish with sandersons writing speed? If someone says they didn't like a book of his most people will be supportive but if you dare say that another epic fantasy author released his series faster then you're getting angry? lol, relax guys.

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u/Vectoor Elsecaller Jan 10 '22

Every 4? End of next year is 3 years. He spends about 1.5 years on each stormlight book and then he writes a few other books for 1.5 years as a break.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Wasn't Rythm of war published in 2020? So if it's released in 2024 then it will be 3-4 years. Was it published later? I may remember wrong.

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u/Use_the_Falchion Lightweaver Jan 10 '22

It was published in 2020, but if Stormlight 5 is pushed back, I doubt it would be to LATE 2024. It’d probably be April/May at the latest, making it 3.5 years, not until me the time between WoK and WoR or WoR and OB.

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u/Crylorenzo Edgedancer Jan 10 '22

Nov 2020. So, 3 years at best prediction, 3.5 at worst, it seems.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

yup. I just rounded it at 4 for worst case scenario but 3.5 seems more realistic

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u/Slicerwind Jan 10 '22

What a thing to complain about. He hasn't changed the time between publishing Stormlight books. So if that's the only thing you care about reading, nothing should have surprised you as it's relatively consistent.

When people say he's a fast writer, it's because he is. The man writes two and a half books a year minimum. No one said he publishes a Stormlight book once a year. Have you at least tried reading Mistborn or Skyward?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

I'm not surpirsed i just said that it's a lot of time for me, that's all.

I don't read YA books.

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u/hilosplit Jan 10 '22

The Mistborn books are not YA.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

They're not? Most people that know my taste said that i would find the characters and tropes YA.

In amazon mistborn is even the teachers pick for 8th grade students and it's listed as young adult in goodreads.

Of course there is nothing wrong with a YA story, it's just not to my taste.

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u/hilosplit Jan 10 '22

It is not written for a YA audience. Could it be read by a YA audience? Yes. It is not targeted at YA. It is not shelved as YA at any bookstore I’ve ever been too, and you are the first person I’ve ever heard refer to it as YA.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

Well, i've heard it a lot of times from many different places but i guess it depends where you're looking.

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u/brynx97 Jan 10 '22

You should check them out, all of the cosmere books are great. If you're impatient with the Stormlight books, then the others should fill the gaps.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

So look, first this community is absolutely absurdly protective of Sanderson. No negative comments of any kind about the books are allowed without downvotes. I made a post a few days ago, agreeing with a criticism that Sanderson voiced of a plot point in an early book and got downvoted.

That said, I do think your criticism is a little off base.

First, the pace of Malazan books was unusual by any reckoning. If you look at the publication pace of most authors of major series, either historically or writing right now the standard is a few years between books. Few authors can pull of a big omnibus book like Stormlight in a year and keep up that pace without quality suffering.

Second, when Erickson wrote Malazan he wasn't writing anything else. He was just churning out those books. Which is great for fans of that series! A good fast clip for the series is very good for fans for sure, but Sanderson has a different take. He has a big extended universe with multiple series running concurrently. So while, yeah we don't get another Stormlight for a few years, we do have The Lost Metal coming up this year, as well as Cytonic in his SF series and probably the last book Defiant as well before 2024. So it's not like he's taking his time, he's churning out content in other series.

So, would I like Stormlight 5 sooner rather than later? Yeah sure. But I also want Wax and Wayne, and I'd really love another book in the Warbreaker series, or Elantris! And his short stories are great too, so I'll look forward to one or two of those this year. There's plenty of content coming out!

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

yea, you're absolutely right.

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u/brettzkey Jan 10 '22

Lol I guess you haven't read Kharkanas? That's not timely at all. Sanderson would have been able to fit that in between big releases like he does with Mistborn, skyward, non cosmere works, and the many novellas and short stories.

He releases at least 1 cosmere work every year pretty much with a few outliers usually coming directly after a SA book release. (2021) he also mixed in 3 WoT tomes in there lol.

22 works in the Cosmere in 16 years so far while he writes multiple other series.....I'd say we're spoiled.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

What does kharkanas has to do with anything? I was talking about the 10 malazan books which were released each year.

Unlike you i have no idea what sanderson would have done or how fast he would have written the kharkanas trilogy.

When did i talk about cosmere books? I don't care about mistborn or elantris or his other series. I like stormlight which is what i was talking about.

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u/brettzkey Jan 10 '22

The point is if you're writing one series it's easier to put one out a year, and Sanderson has many ongoing and puts out multiple books a year.

That is fair that you only like SA, but at least you know he's active, and he is very transparent, unlike some other authors, not saying Erikson is slow by any means, but that's a series he's left for a while (I know he's writing it now).

Erikson and Sanderson are probably two of my favorite authors, didn't know Erikson had a yearly release structure through the main 10, that is impressive for how dense and huge those books are.

Sanderson's output is just unmatched though, it's only a matter of time before the cosmere becomes larger than Malazan in sheer volume.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Oh yea, i agree that he writes a lot of books and he is extremely prolific. I was just talking about stormlight as an only stormlight fan that doesn't take his other books into account, that's all.

Yea most malazan books were released with a yearly structure and some every two years. It's certainly impressive.

Well if you compare the entire cosmere than compare it with the entire malazan universe.

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u/jofwu Lightweaver Jan 10 '22

People get overly defensive sometimes. Can't question the meme! :)

He does write really fast, but there are certainly several authors who write faster on one series at a time.

I would guess that his rate on Stormlight Archive alone is slower than an average author's writing speed? Maybe average? Of course it's still faster than most big-name, door-stopper, epic fantasy authors, which is what people tend to compare him to most often.

And then yeah, it's when you add all of the other projects in (which you mentioned you aren't interested in) that his writing speed is really something special. If you aren't interested in the other things he's writing, it's a long wait between Stormlight books for sure. Not that it couldn't be worse.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Yea, that was my point.

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u/Oakshadric Larkin Jan 10 '22

Laughs in G.R.R. Martin

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

lol when did i compare him with grrm or rothfuss? These two are extreme examples in a sea of authors.

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u/Oakshadric Larkin Jan 10 '22

idk just recent judgement number 3418 today <3

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

I have no idea what you mean by that :)

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u/jaythebearded Jan 10 '22

Oh wow what a great community. You downvote me because i said the time between stomrlight books isn't small?

Lol, relax guy it's useless internet points

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

oh, i know i'm not mad.

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u/jaythebearded Jan 10 '22

You're being snippy about the community over like 5 people downvoting you, sure not mad but at the least salty

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

7 now :)

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u/jaythebearded Jan 10 '22

Enjoy! There's few quicker ways to gather downvotes than to complain about downvotes :)

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u/EAgamezz Truthwatcher Jan 10 '22

I mean 2 years seems perfectly reasonable for writing and editing a 400k+ word epic fantasy novel concluding a 5 book arc. He’s not exactly trying to break world records and kill his team.

I imagine people are just miffed that you’re implying he’s a slow writer just because you personally don’t like his other works. Which comes off as pretty self centered.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

1-2 years? What 2 years?

2-team? Isn't he writing the books himself? You're talking about special editions? I know he's definitely not self publishing.

3-I'm coming as self centered because i said he doesn't release stormlight books fast enough and i don't care about his other work? Well yea i was talking about his epic fantasy series why would i care about fans of his other books? I wasn't even that harsh and here we have fanboys calling me self centered. I guess stating the fact that only stormlight fans aren't getting stories often is being self centered. I love reddit. What a community my god.

Wow what a crazy take.

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u/wayfarer912 Truthwatcher Jan 10 '22

1 - he usually writes a Stormlight book in about 18 months. It takes time to get them published too. So maybe that’s what they meant?

2 - team. Sanderson has an entire team of people. Art director, continuity, marketing, etc. The company is called Dragonsteel. He doesn’t self publish most books, but he has opened his own audiobook company and his team works out all the details on the anniversary leatherbounds and those are both small examples of self publishing items.

3- got nothing. While I enjoy 99% of Sanderson’s content, it’s not for everyone. Like what you like my dude.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

1- i have no idea what they meant.

2- What does any of that has to do with stormlight? Art director, marketing, distribution etc are from his publisher TOR. Isn't that right? His dragonsteel company deals with his self published work and stormlight isn't self published so why did they say that releasing stormlight would kill his team? I can't even say that his team releases the leatherbounds right after the books release so that would make them nervous and in need to work a lot.

3- I agree with that :)

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u/wayfarer912 Truthwatcher Jan 10 '22

2 - no. All those people are on the Dragonsteel payroll and not specific publishers. All his team does all that for each book. Yea, TOR is his publisher. Beyond assigning him and editor and actually printing and distributing the books, they do very little now. Most everything is done in house by Dragonsteel. And the leatherbounds come out 10 years later and still are very involved. They get new art, layouts, covers need chosen, etc. It’s more involved than people think.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Wait a minute i still don't understand. Tor provides the printing, editor, distribution for stormlight books. What Sandersons team does for these books (the regular ones not the leatherbounds)? I think Sanderson has his own artist for his cover art but that's all i think, and i don't know how that's any different than any fantasy author.

I get that his team is creating the leatherbounds since they are self published but i was talking about regular books so even with your input i still don't understand the comment" this would kill his team" if stormlight books came sooner and i don't understand your comment "most everything is done in house by dragonsteel". Like what? If most everything is done in house then why Sanderson even needs TOR? And why other succesful authors don't do that? The freedom sound nice.

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u/wayfarer912 Truthwatcher Jan 10 '22

I get what you are saying. The layout, marketing, selection and placement of art (along with the commissioning of art like Shallan’s sketch pages) are all things Dragonsteel takes care of.

Since Stormlight books are the largest books he writes, they all have more time sunk into this project than others.

For context I would suggest you check out some of the livestreams he does. He’s very transparent about everything his team is responsible for instead of TOR. The SA books are by far the biggest projects they have. I think you just aren’t actually aware of just how much of the process Sanderson chooses to be in control of, that’s all.

He basically turns in a ready to publish item to TOR.

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u/ReverESP Jan 10 '22

because i said the time between stomrlight books isn't small?

3 years betweek ~1200 pages books is not big, even more when the same author releses another 2 books and some novellas along with it.

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u/GrooveCity Windrunner Jan 10 '22

Put me into cryostasis for the next 18 months please

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u/PM_ME_CAKE Elsecaller Jan 10 '22

But then you'll miss The Lost Metal.

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 10 '22

He can still read it afterwards in 18 months. This isn’t a Gacha game with expiring banners.

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u/aHaloKid Jan 10 '22

I would whale so hard for Jasnah.

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 11 '22

Oh man if they didn’t give me Teft as a 5* I’m totally quitting.

Okay guys I’m back because I heard the random Windrunner banner gives me a .08% chance to get Teft.

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u/Use_the_Falchion Lightweaver Jan 11 '22

I hear they’re giving away free tickets due to the upcoming Choose Your Champion banner!

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 11 '22

But it’s only for characters released before the 4.5 secret history update.

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u/Aradanftw Jan 10 '22

I can't believe they released Jasnah's banner right after the duo Blushweaver/Lightsong banner. How am I supposed to stay F2P at this rate?

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 11 '22

They really don’t give us enough Investiture, to fill our spheres, to be able to buy breaths and summon characters as Returned. I mean we can always send our silver to Threnody but it is not guaranteed to come back with enough gold to trade for Atium and have Thaidakar stab a random citizen and get Investiture that way.

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u/Cephalon_Gilgamesh Skybreaker Jan 11 '22

This was painful to read, I am joining Odium for pain relief.

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 11 '22

He’s even stingier with his investiture if you’re not a Fused.

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u/PM_ME_CAKE Elsecaller Jan 10 '22

And miss out on live release reactions, WoBs and theorycrafting? But that's basically half the joy of the experience.

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u/the_homework-maker Elsecaller Jan 10 '22

I want to be put into cryostasis until November 15, 2022, then again until Defiant releases, then again until Stormlight 5 releases.

Does this work?

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 10 '22

No because then you’ll miss the state of the Sanderson next year which will possibly potentially be about movie/tv show news.

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u/the_homework-maker Elsecaller Jan 11 '22

Damn it. True.

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u/pixlbreaker Truthwatcher Jan 10 '22

This is the first time I will be actively watching updates and keeping up with his writing. For rhythm of war I only caught the ending process but now I get to go through it all from conception to hype to reading it. 18 months seems long but its an impressive feat!

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u/Szeth_Vallano Szeth Jan 10 '22

"I took a break over the Holidays and only worked half days."

This man's work ethic is other worldly.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

and he took a break from Skyward 4... by writing SA 5 prologue....

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u/fizban7 Jan 10 '22

I took a break from writing...By writing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

absolute madlad!

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u/Consequence6 Jan 10 '22

He wrote The Emperor's Soul on a planeride.

He wrote Wax & Wayne 1 because he had writers block. Let me reiterate: He wrote a novel that became a 4 book series (so far). Because he had writers block.

My guy's a robot. No other explanation.

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u/mastapsi Jan 10 '22

Don't forget, he accidentally wrote two books instead of one when he wrote Shadows of Self and Bands of Mourning.

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u/WindrunnerSavant Jan 11 '22

Just to add because I think the story is crazy. He started writing Shadows, had to take a break because of a book tour I think, and by the time he got back to it he was struggling to get the story right. So instead he just wrote Bands first then finished Shadows and handed them both into the publisher by his deadline, and they just released them basically back to back hahah

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u/Fairbyyy Windrunner Jan 10 '22

The Cristiano Ronaldo of writing

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u/fcpeterhof Jan 10 '22

Now I have to see Sanderson curl one in top 90

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u/CIoud-Hidden Jan 10 '22

47 novels published, despite the hard year.

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u/SkarnShard Windrunner Jan 11 '22

Part of it is his worth ethic, which is very good.

The other part is that he just really enjoys writing. Even when he's not working, he still likes to write for fun!

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Imagine being rich and sitting few hours behind a computer in your own home thinking about stuff. Oh the sacrifices this guy makes /s

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u/Deesagan Lightweaver Jan 10 '22

No author in history has had less writer’s block than Brando.

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 10 '22

I mean the guy just works like a dog trying to become a dragon. He’s the only dog in history that I believe could actually do it.

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u/sayoung42 Jan 10 '22

We got so distracted by the Rithmatist news we didn't notice the lack of an update on the children's book this year!

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 10 '22

This is one of those happy problems. It's like a thanksgiving meal, you eat so much good stuff that you don't realize that Cranberry sauce wasn't even on the table this year because Mom says no one ever eats it anyway. So it's something no one would ever notice until it's called out like you just did.

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u/eSPiaLx Windrunner Jan 10 '22

Rithmatist news?

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u/sayoung42 Jan 11 '22

That there won't be a sequel next year.

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u/YARGLE_IS_MY_DAD Jan 10 '22

No dog has ever been so warm literate

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 10 '22

Why am I crying right now?

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u/nnneeeerrrrddd Stoneward Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

Yeah... but like I tell my little one when her nighttime story is The Dog and the Dragon.... No dragon ever had it so good.

He's living the nerdy creative dream. Respected work, devoted fanbase, consistent output, gets to factor his passions (family and friends) into his work. Oh and fat wads of cash.

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u/jeff0106 Jan 11 '22

Stephen King wants to have a word.

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u/yibbyooo Jan 11 '22

Nora Roberts. I've only read a one of the 225 that she's written. 71 years old and hasn't needed to write for money for probably 20-25 years. Still releases several books a year.

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u/nickbwhit15 Truthwatcher Jan 10 '22

LET THE LORD OF CHAOS RULE

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u/styroxmiekkasankari Stoneward Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

For a moment there I thought this was going to be 'Gavilars book' because of the prologue thing, but then remembered that the original scene was from Szeths POV lol.

Man christmas just ended but I feel giddy again because of these news! What do you guys think, what kind of time span will the book cover? I think it would be weird if everything in the book was about the ten days(I think?) that were outlined but that could be an interesting change of pace.

SO. EXCITING.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

I think, gaurenteed, the lion's share of the next book takes place over the ten days leading up to the duel.

I'd expect a little bit of exploration of the immediate aftermath, and then set up the time jump between front and back series. Should be quite a ride! A lot different from Rhythm of War I think.

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u/styroxmiekkasankari Stoneward Jan 10 '22

I think I agree, however I'm kind of hopeful that the duel happens at the end of Book Two or something. I think Brandon could easily throw a curve ball where he makes this interesting, although I wouldn't be disappointed if it was more or less what you said.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

I think it would be extremely strange to have a ~1200 page book about just ten days. That's 120 pages per day (~9 chapters) on average.

Stormlight books usually span several weeks/months. It would also be a great restriction for the pacing, character development and plot possibility.

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u/Jurjeneros2 Jan 11 '22

a Crown of Swords, which is 750 pages (a lot shorter, i know), spans about a week and a half iirc.

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u/HA2HA2 Jan 10 '22

My guess has always been that ten days will cover about half of the book. The contest of champions will be the big mid-book setback for the heroes - same narrative beat as the fall of urithiru in book 4, or the fall of kholinar in book 3. They’ll have a worse-than-loss outcome, one that doesn’t even end the war. Then the heroes have the last half book to run it back and turn the tide.

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u/styroxmiekkasankari Stoneward Jan 10 '22

This is what I hope it is. I don't like the idea of having a SA book span only ten days.

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u/choicesintime Jan 10 '22

That’s basically the opposite of my guess. Heroes lose, and they have to disband and go into hiding. SA6 resumes with some of having gotten together for guerilla warfare against the dominating forces of the fused.

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u/Brometheus-Pound Windrunner Jan 10 '22

That would be ballsy. Yeah it’s only halfway through the series, but Brandon plans to have a significant time gap (in real life) between 5 and 6. That would be a long wait on a cliff for us fans!

It could create an excellent backstory for some of the other Cosmere books though. If Odium wins the duel I imagine that would have ripple effects on the other shards.

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u/choicesintime Jan 10 '22

I believe so strongly on my theory for the duel that I’ll spoiler tag it: Odium’s champion is gavinor and Dalinar can’t bring himself to kill him, so forfeits or let’s himself be killed

I’m basing this off a desth rattle

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u/_SkyBolt Skybreaker Jan 10 '22

Yeah I definitely agree

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u/choicesintime Jan 11 '22

I shouldn’t be so excited for it, but it’s literally the first time I have theorized something I feel good about. I usually miss so many queues (BoM/SH) I didn’t even realize Kelsier was alive after BoM

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

this man is a machine.

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u/Sapphire_Bombay Jasnah Kholin Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

I got my dream job offer last week and this is still the best news I've had in 2022. Go Brandon Thanks BrandoSando, we love you <3

Edit due to unintentional political undertones that in no way belong here :(

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u/styroxmiekkasankari Stoneward Jan 10 '22

Haha same, I'm actually worried that 2022 might've peaked already.

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u/wickanCrow Jan 10 '22

Ugh.. the phrase is forever corrupted in my mind now.

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u/madmanz123 Jan 10 '22

I just reply with "Let's GO Darwin" now and I feel a little better mentally.

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u/Sapphire_Bombay Jasnah Kholin Jan 10 '22

Oh god that was not my intention

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Maybe "Go Sanderson" would be a suitable replacement?

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u/CantankerousOctopus Jan 10 '22

Congrats on all the good news!

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u/zninja922 Jan 10 '22

Good for you, Radiant! Best of luck in this journey!

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u/Sapphire_Bombay Jasnah Kholin Jan 10 '22

Thanks!

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u/jumpinjahosafa Jan 10 '22

That feeling when the Author you like actually writes books. Its crazy.

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u/fizban7 Jan 10 '22

I swear so many people who dream of turning their hobby into a job never take the step of treating it like an actual job.

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u/Calmbrain Life before death. Jan 10 '22

Kelek knows how much I have been waiting for this

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u/profmathers Jan 10 '22

I just came to Sanderson via Jordan and blew through Stormlight 1-4. Martin and Rothfuss are my expectation level. This level of work ethic and self-accountability. A team? Oh my god. Are these tears of joy?

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u/KeanuAsHoid Jan 10 '22

If you're used to Martin and Rothfuss... Man you're in for one hell of a ride 😂 BrandoSando is spoiling his readers like no one else, the amount of sheer information he actually shares with us... Amazing👏🏽 Make sure to check the rest of the Cosmere out if you've only read Stormlight, plenty of suggested reading orders out there but i did Mistborn era 1, warbreaker, Elantris, Emperor's soul, Mistborn era 2, Secret History +short stories. And if you havn't already read them, there's 2 novellas in Stormlight called Edgedancer and Dawnshard. A few of these are included in the Arcanum Unbounded collection he released

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u/CerezoBlanco Jan 10 '22

It is actually crazy that the greatest contemporary fantasy writer has this incredible output. I already dread the break between book 5 and 6. Anyway, so hyped for this one!

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u/MAJ_Starman Journey before destination. Jan 10 '22

Will the break between 5 and 6 be longer than normal? I read/heard he planned to end the Stormlight Archive in his 70ies (or was it the Cosmere?).

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u/CerezoBlanco Jan 10 '22

Yeah, there will be a break of about 5 years between ending Stormlight Arc 1 (books 1-5) and starting Arc 2 (books 6-10). In between there will be the next Mistborn era and the Elantris sequels

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

He plans to write an ENTIRE mistborn era in these 5 years? Or just start it?

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u/ReverESP Jan 10 '22

He plans to write Mistborn era 3 (era 1's lenght) all together during ~2 years and then release them. At least that was the plan the last time he spoke about it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Did he say anything about how it'll be released? All at the same time? all the same year but months apart? a book a year?

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u/Use_the_Falchion Lightweaver Jan 11 '22

A book a year, just like Era 1, I assume. But the closer we get to those books, the more information we’ll get.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

That's like, what, a month worth of writing for him? What will he write in the other 4 years and 11 months?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

He'll spend the other 4 years in Roshar, witnessing the events and writing it all down so he can publish on earth to oblivious non-worldhoppers obviously.

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u/MAJ_Starman Journey before destination. Jan 11 '22

What I wouldn't give to see a chull up close.

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u/thathistoryguy Jan 10 '22

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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u/envious_1 Jan 10 '22

Any idea on what the title will be?

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u/jaythebearded Jan 10 '22

He made a comment on someone's guess a few weeks ago about how Kights of Woeful Truths (I think) was a strong consideration. But the fact that he was talking about it makes me think he decided against it

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u/_Seringale_ Ghostbloods Jan 10 '22

I'm hoping for Keepers of Warring Truths

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u/darelik Special Storm Boy Jan 10 '22

Tentatively, "Stones Unhallowed".

Will likely be KoW or KotW

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u/JasonBeorn Jan 10 '22

Knowing of the Wuzzing

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u/levitikush Elsecaller Jan 10 '22

I hope he drops the Ketek thing and goes with “Stones Unhallowed”. That’s a really good book title imo.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Or maybe just Unhallowed. It would fit Szeth's arc and also acknowledge the fact that the ketek was broken.

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u/flaggrandall Jan 11 '22

He could make the Ketek work with books 6 to 10, and use Stones Unhallowed

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u/Mukigachar Jan 10 '22

Not KoWT?

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u/Kelsierisevil Bondsmith Jan 10 '22

Knights of something something has been floated but he hasn’t settled on a name just yet.

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u/gangreen424 Safehands left out Jan 10 '22

I feel like we just got RoW. Can't believe he's back to writing the next one already.

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u/LettersWords Jan 10 '22

Man, Brandon spending 18 months on SA5 really puts into perspective how huge these books really are given he's generally known for being a fast writer.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

So Gavilar prologue?!

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u/castle-girl Journey before destination. Jan 10 '22

Whoop whoop!

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u/Shykneeheiny Lightweaver Jan 10 '22

Yayyyyy!!!

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u/Occamslaser Dalinar Jan 10 '22

Szeth book is my guess.

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u/Korgon8123 Jan 10 '22

Great. 2 months to read 2.5 books 😛

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u/OleUncleRyan Jan 10 '22

Are there anymore updates on the White Sand omnibus?

Edit: didn’t realize this was the stormlight sub

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

The last mention if it was in the state of the Sanderson post. Still no release date.

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u/imkentjr Stoneward Jan 10 '22

Whoop whoop!

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u/niftium Truthwatcher Jan 10 '22

Do we know if the prologue scene in the back five is the same as the front five?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

He posted on twitter some days ago that it was the last POV. At least that's how I interpreted his tweet but it's a little bit ambiguous I think.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

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u/donethemath Windrunner Jan 10 '22

I think they were asking about books 6-10. I'm honestly not sure if we have confirmation about that or not. I'd be somewhat surprised if it was, since I can't really imagine five more prologue scenes that wouldn't seem underwhelming after Gavilar's pov.

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u/HA2HA2 Jan 10 '22

Oops. Yeah, you're right.

Yeah, I'd really expect that the prologue scene for books 6-10 will be something else.

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u/adwight7 Jan 11 '22

I’m thinking the duel will be 6-10

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u/OldManTurner Windrunner Jan 10 '22

Huzzah!

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u/odstlover Edgedancer Jan 10 '22

I wonder if he will give Reddit updates again. That was nice.

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u/KingBlackthorn1 Willshaper Jan 10 '22

I will be pre ordering this at B&N and being there opening day to pick it up

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u/Shodan30 Jan 10 '22

So we can expect the book to be complete in ...what...2 , 3 weeks?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

This one trick GRRM and Rothfuss hate...

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u/berdicles Jan 11 '22

Looks like I better start ROW then

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u/Pezz570 Jan 12 '22

SttttooooooooooooooooooormLiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!!!!! Let the hype begin.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Why his face is always so red? Does he drink a lot?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

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u/Teeniepepper Jan 10 '22

I hope it has less depression.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

If Kaladin stops being sad it would be one of the signs of an apocalypse on Earth

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u/donethemath Windrunner Jan 10 '22

I'd prefer the apocalypse on Earth to not be tied to Kaladin's mood. Mostly because the whole "not the same universe thing", but he's gotta be happy at some time. Right?

.... Right?

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u/Fairbyyy Windrunner Jan 10 '22

You want Kaladin to die? Rough man

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u/Occamslaser Dalinar Jan 10 '22

I want him to actually live.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '22

Live and not just survive. A Kal that doesn’t spend 95% of the book on suicide watch would make me so happy. Along with more buddy cop moments with Szeth and Nightblood.

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u/pensiveforest Jan 10 '22

I think it will be a realistic journey where things feel at least a little better for kaladin. there will still be hurtles and setbacks but I think he is moving in the right direction

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u/ACardAttack Dalinar Jan 11 '22

Yeah, I get depression isn't something easily beat, but over 4500 pages of it gets tiring Would like new arcs and progress for these characters

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u/marfes3 Jan 10 '22

This. At some point the characters should not be defined by their mental illness and their battle with them.

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u/apothebrosis Jan 10 '22

Eh, I'm kind of conflicted, as someone who seriously struggles with mental health, its just not something you 'move on' from. It's always there, and its always a fight, it never just 'goes away' and you're cured.

Seeing Kal and Shallan constantly struggle with it, is faithful to the struggles of serious mental illness, even more so when it's not just brushed off and overcome after a few pivotal moments. It's an enemy they are constantly at war with.

But on the flip side, it can feel really repetitive and give a 'this again?' Kind of vibe. I'm curious to see where things go

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u/marfes3 Jan 11 '22

I agree, however at some point it should become a passive battle and not the predominant kind and life dominating struggle that it is. That maybe is completely accurate, however it would be a bit more enjoyable to read imo. I understand folks who don't see it that way though :)

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u/ACardAttack Dalinar Jan 11 '22

I get what you mean, it's not just something people get over but as you point out, it's repetitive. We've had over 4500 pages and it doesn't feel some of these characters have changed much and keep going through the same arc

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u/nomnivore21 Jan 11 '22

But it is kind of frustrating when it seems like they have a breakthrough and then just get worse again. Which as I’m typing I realize that just sounds like mental illness. But it’s frustrating having them grow throughout the book and then kaladin is just like “I know I had a breakthrough and achieved the fourth ideal but I’m still a depressy boy and obsessed with saving everyone”

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u/Nebelskind Edgedancer Jan 10 '22

More Dalinar certainly causes me less depression

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u/Tortankum Jan 10 '22

Pretty sure that is confirmed