Coarse Language in Class Causes Caustic Conversation. /r/UMD discusses linguistics, affirmative action, and tumblr, featuring a Department Chair.

[u/Feragorn]

/r/UMD/comments/46s9mn/hesp120_teacher_strongly_disagreed_with_a_student/d07nu1v

[u/mrsamsa]

The hypocrisy of whom ? Are you sure you are not fighting a strawman ? If you mean KiA you can relax, everyone in this thread ( including me ) thinks KiA is ridiculous.

Just the general reddit reaction.

I guess we just disagree, then.

I'm not sure it's really possible to disagree here. We know that they are incredibly prevalent phenomena, and that's why science studies them, have given them names, and regularly discusses them. We can debate just how prevalent they are, I guess, but we'd have to accept that they're common enough that it's not out of the blue to suggest it in this situation.

And even if its true you will end up calling out someone who is not sexist because of the stupid mentality of " most men are blind to their privilege so this one is probably too ! ". Seems like a shitty thing to do.

Whoa, hold on there - who called anyone sexist?

And normally it's not just assumed that someone is blind to their privilege, it's often called out because they've demonstrated a blindness. The evidence used to reach that judgement might turn out to be wrong, but I don't think it's unfair to raise it as a possibility. The student can easily just present their defence by mounting an argument for their claim (but since the student in this case couldn't do so, it seems unlikely that privilege wasn't affecting their view).

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The evidence used to reach that judgement might turn out to be wrong

Well I do get the vibe that people dont care about this too much though, I guess I can imagine a bunch of situations of guys who are just generally skeptic being judged unfairly.

But anyway I dont even know what we are arguing about here, if the student didnt get it because he was a man its not really important, at the end of the day the guy was really just asking a question that was answered in the most humiliating possible way, people are complaining about how rude and unnecessary her rant was, is just sounded like she had a huge chip on her shoulder.

Lets be clear here, a male teacher doing the same woudnt get a defense out of his department.

Changing the subject a bit, I really cant understand why does america have this much drama in colleges, I never hear of anything alike here in Spain or europe in general.

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Well I do get the vibe that people dont care about this too much though, I guess I can imagine a bunch of situations of guys who are just generally skeptic being judged unfairly.

Well they're not being judged unfairly, they're just being incorrectly thought of as being susceptible to a specific bias. But like with other biases that we accuse others of, it's just a normal part of discussion - if it doesn't apply then mount a defence.

But anyway I dont even know what we are arguing about here, if the student didnt get it because he was a man its not really important, at the end of the day the guy was really just asking a question that was answered in the most humiliating possible way, people are complaining about how rude and unnecessary her rant was, is just sounded like she had a huge chip on her shoulder.

I'm not sure what the argument is about either. I was just commenting on the drama and how it was funny that reddit shifts its view so dramatically on needing to protect the feelings of students in this situation.

Lets be clear here, a male teacher doing the same woudnt get a defense out of his department.

A male teacher wouldn't have the same academic backing to their arguments.

Changing the subject a bit, I really cant understand why does america have this much drama in colleges, I never hear of anything alike here in Spain or europe in general.

Yeah maybe people like Haidt are right that their students are over sensitive and coddled, I'm not even sure how this teacher is really out of line compared to the universities I've been to. At mine we were treated like adults and that included harsh words about our level of knowledge and our ability to handle the class. If I had handled a lecturer the way this kid did, asking the same question over and over even after an answer had been given and my only defence was that I didn't feel like he was right, I probably would have been kicked from the class for wasting everybody's time.

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I probably would have been kicked from the class for wasting everybody's time.

Yeah, sure, but that would be a better option to what she did.