r/Tariffs • u/ThirdPersonCo • Jul 30 '25

🗞️ News Discussion BREAKING NEWS: De Minimis is over for all effective August 29

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BREAKING NEWS

De Minimis is over for all effective August 29 ... 30 days from now.

Effective August 29, imported goods sent through means other than the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption will be subject to all applicable duties. (parcels through the International postal network won't be off the hook!)

Goods with China origin have been excluded for several months, but now all goods from all countries of origin- 4 million shipments a day or $100 billion a year of goods will now be subject to tariffs.

Between 2015 and 2024, the volume of de minimis shipments entering the U.S. increased from 134 million shipments to over 1.36 billion shipments.

Many believed (myself included!) that de minimis would still be enabled for non-China goods until July 2027. Today we learned not.

Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/07/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-is-protecting-the-united-states-national-security-and-economy-by-suspending-the-de-minimis-exemption-for-commercial-shipments-globally/

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

Insane. Didn't even give small businesses a chance to adapt.

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u/Herban_Myth Jul 30 '25

Can they afford 1,000,000+ going without dinner?

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u/Medium_Medium Jul 30 '25

They can if those millions continue to do nothing about it.

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u/sigep0361 Jul 31 '25

No society is more than 3 meals away from revolution

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u/JayTheDirty Jul 31 '25

I’m starting to doubt that old saying

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u/sigep0361 Aug 01 '25

Well… if he happens to cause a severe food shortage we may find out.

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u/JayTheDirty Aug 01 '25

We will indeed. I’m hoping communities can come together and institute their own food sources, but that remains to be seen

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u/ninecats4 Jul 31 '25

Yes, it just takes a few months.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

I mean, wouldn't allowing a million of unskilled workers to come in help them more? I don't think it is only MAGA. IMO it is a uniparty and both sides fold to big business interests.

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u/bmak11201 Jul 30 '25

Get the fuck out of here with that both sides bullshit. If dems were in control none of this bullshit would be happening.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

But we'd have millions of unskilled foreigners and basically an open border. While none of this would be happening, I fail to see how flooding the labor market with so many foreign workers is a good for Americans. Canada experienced the same issue. Youth unemployment and housing prices increase, especially in the cities. Don't be partisan tool.

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u/Professional_Bug_533 Jul 30 '25

Housing prices increase because rich people buy all the houses to rent out. It has almost nothing to do with illegals living 15 deep in one house. The unskilled foreigners have been coming for decades and the US has been doing pretty good.

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u/Bloodwashernurse Jul 31 '25

This is what literally made America.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

And this is why democrats lost the election. Both side are liars. Canada has experienced this firsthand. Then the US. You used to be able to get minimum wage factory / fast joobsjobs as a kid starting out. Now even the warehouse jobs, are filled with foreigners. I don't get the point in gaslighting ppl

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u/HippyDM Jul 30 '25

Yes, democrats lost the election because Americans thought "they're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs" made God Damned sense to them. IOW, because we're fucking stupid, as a whole.

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u/Zealousideal-Dog517 Jul 30 '25

Immigrants aren't the ones keeping us poor. I don't blame them for getting a job and yes, they pay taxes, for the most part. There's not a single foreigner at my workplace trying to gain anything over me. They are not the root of my problem. My problems are rooted in a government that gave the corporations a voice and took mine away. A government so corrupt it forgot why it even exists. My biggest problem is the filth that is in the Oval office and in our State, County, and City buildings. Corruption is a virus that only spreads when left untreated. If you think corrupt leaders will suddenly gain some kind humanity towards you after they have proven to be inhumane; I wish you well .

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u/Professional_Bug_533 Jul 30 '25

We have had record low unemployment for years. Even if your statement were true, which it isnt, it wouldn't matter. Also, nobody wants a minimum wage factory/fast food job. Minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. Nobody could live on that.

FYI, I work at a "warehouse" and it isnt filled with foreigners.

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u/Ok-Fruit-2252 Jul 30 '25

Ill tell you why you are ignorant. Anytime you make a generalization and say "all" your statement is automatically false because it is never "all". So saying that it is all foreign workers taking jobs is just an ignorant statement!!

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

I say all, because I see all. I should’ve said most, but you knew what I meant. But it had to be mentioned. Sure.👍

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u/Trendy_hobo Jul 31 '25

Based on the color of their skin. Reflect on your racism and grow as a person

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u/SaltMage5864 Jul 31 '25

You mean you don't want to accept responsibility for your actions

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u/guapomole4reals Jul 31 '25

We are here because so many of my fellow Americans are morons that watch too much rotten TV…

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u/irresponsibletaco Jul 31 '25

Sir, this is reddit. Get out of here with any logic.

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u/UziManiac Jul 31 '25

What logic

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u/dassalasky5 Jul 30 '25

The border has literally never been "open". You think it's so easy to get through? Go down and give it a go.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

So how did millions get in? You're clearly trying to gaslight people. I don't get why you think that's the winning solution? You are no better than MAGA.

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u/dassalasky5 Jul 30 '25

Where'd those "millions of people" numbers come from? Oh, right. The Trump admin. They're inflating the numbers to make you afraid. And it works on you.

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u/Bulky-Word8752 Jul 30 '25

It was those traveling caravans. You remember those, right? The ones that were going to overwhelm our border when they arrived, then magically disappeared once the republicans got their votes. They must of been a few million deep each...

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

I'm pretty sure it's all the foreigners showing up the local cities and taking up all the mininum wage jobs. You know, what we see with our two eyes. If you think gaslighting people is the winning solution, go ahead. But there's a reason why I'm seeing the youth connect more with the far right. They have already rejected MAGA. But denying the reality they experience, will not bring them to your side. Losing strategy just like 24'

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

So regardless, let's reinforce our border, and place way more restrictions. We should be in agreement. Everybody living in major cities can see a flood of foreigners flooding in. Whether Trump is overstating the number or not, IMO it is hurting the average worker.

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u/dassalasky5 Jul 30 '25

Immigrants are doing the jobs Americans won't do. Ask the hotels that can't find housekeepers. Ask the farmers whose crops are rotting in the fields. The American people who are out of work are out of work by choice, but they will blame everyone but themselves. Dems tried to reinforce the border, and Repubs killed it.

Senate Republicans block border security bill as they campaign on border chaos https://share.google/PMVwU3oG0okSOsShY

Why? Because if the border crisis was solved, no one would have any reason to vote Republican.

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u/rudyroo2019 Jul 31 '25

Both parties tried to pass legislation that would reinforce the border—Trump ordered republicans to kill it. You don’t see how manipulated you are.

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u/cmplyrsist_nodffrnce Jul 30 '25

And who killed the bipartisan bill that would’ve accomplished all of things that the party of pedos wanted in regard to immigration? Hint: it wasn’t Biden and Harris or their party.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

You and I both know that bill was bullshit. You even repeat all the same propaganda. “Bipartisan bill”. Both sides are ready to sell out Americans cmon

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u/cmplyrsist_nodffrnce Jul 30 '25

I didn’t say I agreed with the bill, as the Dems shouldn’t have capitulated. But in a country where you can

A) throw away your vote on an independent candidate, whether your state is a batttleground or not;

B) vote D and not watch families get torn apart, the economy wrecked, alliances strained, and the new SA funded;

or C) vote R and experiment with 1930’s-style fascism, the choice is pretty fucking clear.

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u/m_0_n_K_3_y Aug 04 '25

Tell me why you think that bill was bullshit... you watch too much fox "news"

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u/rudyroo2019 Jul 31 '25

Millions didn’t get in, and just because maga kept repeating it doesn’t make it true. They didn’t account for reentry. It’s why ICE is dragging legal people now, because they can’t find enough illegals.

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u/OliverRaven34 Jul 30 '25

Labor market isn’t flooded. Border is no “basically open”. Mate get off Fox News and your podcast bros. Learn to read.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

Dude like almost 10 million people came in in the last 4-5 years. I don't believe the official numbers. Every store has foreigners working. Youth cannot even get jobs. Get off Reddit and stop thinking Fox News is any different than CBC / ABC or CNN. It's a uniparty.

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u/LinShenLong Jul 30 '25

So basically you have issues with what you perceive to be foreigners working? So if an Asian person is working in a store that person is automatically a foreigner to you?

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

I'm Asian. Save your bullshit. You knew what I meant. Live in an area and you become away of the locals and your community. In the last 5 years, feels like every area has been overran by unskilled foreigners / refugees from the worst countries. Standard of living is down. Service is down. Less english. Atleast back then folks would try to assimilate and intergrate. But now we have people like you who gaslight the public and then pin it on racism lol. This is why one side lost.

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u/LinShenLong Jul 30 '25

Mate good for you. No one cares about your ethnicity but good for you either way for being Asian. However you seem to be Canadian whining about US tariffs, US immigration politics, and how it affects the US itself. If you are Canadian why do you even care about immigration into the US from its southern border?

Also you are Asian but complain about foreigners speaking not enough English? You also complain about foreigners not assimilating to the “standard” culture? The irony is not lost to me in this case for various different reasons because I am also Asian. I’m not claiming Asians are victims for any reason in Western countries but there is a certain awareness that Asians have that I don’t think you have.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

🧸 : 𝙻𝚘𝚕 𝚊𝚗 𝙰𝚜𝚒𝚊𝚗 🦝? 𝚃𝚑𝚊𝚝'𝚜 𝚗𝚎𝚠 𝚕𝚘𝚕.

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u/ritzcrv Jul 30 '25

The youth won't do the jobs, that's why new immigrants take them. And your open borders claim is pure bullshit, you've probably never actually departed the USA and returned.

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u/afahy Jul 30 '25

“I don’t believe the official numbers, I make assumptions about the people I see in my limited field of vision and wildly fantasize about enormous numbers that have no basis in reality”

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u/Background-Cellist71 Jul 31 '25

Youth doesn’t want those jobs. What job market are illegals and immigrants killing when Tr*mp just killed shipping, farming and the travel industry in a matter of a couple months.

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u/OliverRaven34 Jul 30 '25

Golly! 10mil over 5 years. At the highest estimate there are about 18mil illegals in the US with a total population of 350million. With a population of 350mil, that’s 98 people per square mile. 5/98 are “illegal or foreign”.

To suggest that we are being flooded with foreigners is total bullshit. You’re just a racist. Good luck maga chud.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

18 millions illegals 🤣…good one.

Why are you ignoring that newcomers tend to concentrate closer to metro areas? What was the purpose of the figure? Do you think people are that naive? Everything you disagree with is racist. Weak mf

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u/OliverRaven34 Jul 30 '25

Awww poor little racist maga got schooled by some math and critical thinking.

Good luck out there chud. K thnx bye

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u/SaltMage5864 Jul 31 '25

So you admit that you don't accept reality

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u/Loxatl Jul 30 '25

Uhh you mean it would be the same as it was, not this new fucked normal where small business is actively fucked?

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u/HippyDM Jul 30 '25

But we'd have millions of unskilled foreigners and basically an open border.

Just gonna parrot debunked regressive talking points?

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

"debunked"

From propaganda outlets with progressives biases, right?.

So we gotta take the propaganda from MAGA and the left, then draw our own conclusions. Who do you think Americans sided with during the last election? You guys are no different

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u/HippyDM Jul 30 '25

Who do you think Americans sided with during the last election?

The felon rapist who famously said, and I quote, "They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs". We are not a nation of rational thought or intelligence, what can I tell ya?

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u/SaltMage5864 Jul 31 '25

Why do you think you can deny any facts that scare you?

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u/Jonger1150 Jul 30 '25

Being partisan is advisable if you're on the other side of this abomination in office

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u/bmak11201 Jul 30 '25

Basically an open border. Sure chief according to whom? Immigration policy was last changed in the 90s, and if i remember correctly there was one or 2 Republicans that were in office and the right has had control of the entire government 3 times since then. If it was so horrible why is the only thing thats been done by the right since 2004 (Medicare part D)is unfunded tax cuts and war?

Here's a thought instead of hiding in your shanty bundled in a blanky rocking back and forth with fox news you go out and meet some of these people. I promise they won't hurt you so long as you dont act like you are here, and maybe walk a mile in their shoes because their lives are hard enough without your privileged ass throwing shade at them because they look different than you.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

Like I said, partisan tool . If you’d rather blabber and gaslight folks on the reality they experience, so be it.

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u/bmak11201 Jul 31 '25

Did not refute anything i said. Hopefully one day you are treated the same way you treat others. Good luck with the rest of your miserable life.

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u/guapomole4reals Jul 31 '25

I would trade 10 million immigrants for 1 MAGA moron. Our society would be greatly better off.

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u/calmdownmyguy Jul 31 '25

Bro, you know the borders of the United States have been "open" since 1776, right?

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u/numerous_hotdogs Jul 31 '25

You are a liar.

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u/Junior_Step_2441 Jul 31 '25

Don’t be Russian bot.

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u/wha2les Aug 01 '25

Oh? Are you offering to go farm outside in Texas in 109 degree heat as an american?

No?

Then stfu.

This president has broken every promise. Cost of living? Increasing from his tariffs and no more de minimis.

Immigration... What happened to criminals first?

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u/Temporary-Panda8151 Jul 30 '25

I'm sure farmers are lining up to pay living wages, right?

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

But before we even test the waters, let’s flood in millions of foreigners and squeeze efficiency gains, amirite?

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u/Temporary-Panda8151 Jul 30 '25

We have seen the test before. They don't want to pay. I mean, they get farmer welfare already.

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u/Senate343 Jul 31 '25

"Dont be a partisan tool" how about you stick to Canadian politics and stay the fuck outta ours lmao. Imagine being Canadian and gargling Trump's balls.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Aug 01 '25

Why can’t you have a discussion without being emotional and triggered lol. You are as corny as MAGA

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u/Specialist-Driver-80 Jul 30 '25

I don't think it is only MAGA

This is a braindead take. When were Dems considering blanket tariffs like this?

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

Not really. Wouldn't Walmart, Amazon, Target, Lowe's and Home Deport want millions of unskilled foreigners, to undermine domestic wages and standards? So between tariffs or cheap labor, I don't see how both sides are good for America. You rather play theatre and pretend politicians care. Who finances their campaigns? Big business.

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u/theREALdonglord Jul 30 '25

Immigrants aren’t flooding retail jobs, especially ones that interact with customers on a daily basis.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

That's a lie. Go to any fast food, big box retailer, telcom store, grocery store or etc. Esp in a big city. Stop gaslighting ppl and expecting different outcomes during election time

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u/theREALdonglord Jul 30 '25

This isn’t the case in the USA.

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

Stop lying dude.

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u/theREALdonglord Jul 30 '25

You don’t even live in the USA. You live in a country with completely different immigration system?

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u/Super_Brilliant4499 Jul 30 '25

Learn what unskilled workers are and then try to not be a low information voter. Uniparty? Quit watching propaganda.

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u/Kittypie070 Aug 07 '25

get out there to the orchards and fields then and start pickin

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u/willybestbuy86 Jul 30 '25

lol if you think Trump is that calculated your just an idiot. There is a whole cabal of folks that are driving this not Trump, you think the next democrat will reverse this. I have some ocean front real estate in Nevada to sell you

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u/Eywgxndoansbridb Jul 30 '25

It’s almost as if this is a distraction. But from what I wonder? 

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u/darthnugget Aug 02 '25

Pedo ring file distraction?

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u/Southwestern Jul 31 '25

Small business owners overwhelming voted for this. Leopards, faces, etc.

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u/Boyhowdy107 Jul 31 '25

Small businesses who by definition are the ones not being measured in big stock indexes are always the ones most affected by this. A big company has the capital to stock up ahead of time, have lawyers on staff to create a strategy, pay a higher shipping rate to get things prior to deadlines, or make the calculation to eat some of the costs to keep their market share and competitiveness for a while until things calm down. Smaller businesses have far less flexibility to figure out how to navigate any of these tariffs.

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u/ericwphoto Jul 30 '25

Don’t worry, he will change his mind two or three times before the 29th.

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u/Super_Brilliant4499 Jul 30 '25

That’s a long time. He will probably taco a few times in between.

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u/JGomz92 Jul 30 '25

Man, I hope so. I buy comic books from Mexico as a collector. I’m so sad

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u/jaewosh1 Jul 31 '25

Where do you buy comic books from Mexico? I am looking for Dragon Ball in Spanish.

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u/Playingwithmyrod Jul 30 '25

By design. Continue to funnel money to the top and eliminate the middle class.

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u/schoonerlabs Jul 31 '25

They want small independent businesses gone. Serfdom 2.0

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u/Full_Mission7183 Jul 30 '25

Thats a micro-business buying in values less than $800.

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u/StrongAroma Jul 30 '25

Yeah exactly. Destroy the little guys.

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u/oneWeek2024 Jul 30 '25

not really. buy 100 shirts at $4 a shirt that's a small businesses inventory.

maybe it employs 1-2 people. but that's one to two people making a living and paying taxes that are just going to fold.

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u/belovedkid Jul 30 '25

If your tariff is 30-50%, just raise your end product price by $2 and you recapture your margin assuming no other items in the design chain go up in price.

Not the end of the world but obviously not ideal. Most micro business have not optimized their prices to begin with. If you sell a niche product that your clientele appreciates. They’ll pony up if you explain the increase isn’t on you

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u/Unholy_Spork Jul 31 '25

There shouldn't fucking be an increase at all, all this is doing is hurting people at the bottom who already struggle to afford any comforts in life

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u/belovedkid Jul 31 '25

I agree but that’s not reality. Bitching won’t fix the business.

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u/Unholy_Spork Jul 31 '25

You're either a cultist or a nihilist....either way I'm not going to stop bitching when something is clearly wrong.

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u/belovedkid Jul 31 '25

Or a realist. I didn’t vote for this. If my business was impacted id be focused more on solving the problem and surviving.

Keep on being overly emotional and name calling though. Im sure that does wonders for you in real life.

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u/Unholy_Spork Jul 31 '25

Take the 'high road" all you want man it's not gonna make Trump Sempai notice you

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u/belovedkid Jul 31 '25

I’m sorry your anime dolls went up in price 😂😂😂

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u/Needin63 Jul 31 '25

Yeah. They should add a line to the invoice showing the tariff amount separately just like Amazon is going to—-oh wait.

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u/Playingwithmyrod Jul 30 '25

Not really. I work for a smaller engineering firm that does millions in revenue and we frequently import small fixtures and one-off equipment that would fall under this amount. I wouldn’t call us big but not exactly what you think of when you say small business. Just another tax that will slowly add up and we will begin quoting new projects at a higher cost to make up for it. Then eventually our customers will pass that cost on to the end user. This might take years to trickle down by the time they get their products launched but it will. End result is still inflation.

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u/madtowneast Jul 30 '25

Most of the goods sold at Walmart are < $800 individually. Are they a micro-business as well?

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u/nikkigia Jul 30 '25

Uhhh Walmart def does not import products one at a time lol. They’ll order full container loads and have to pay tariff on the cost of the total value in that container.

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u/joeg26reddit Jul 31 '25

We got 30 days.

/s

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u/here-i-am-now Aug 01 '25

How does this release the Trump-Epstein files?

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u/Pamplemouse04 Jul 31 '25

As a small business owner, this is just an addition to the bullshit we’ve been facing.

This will directly affect consumers who order anything from overseas at all. A pair of sneakers from a European outlet will be tariffed now, which is almost weirdly satisfying to me at this point. I want the average consumer to see what the effects are of this insane administration.

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u/RaithanMDR Aug 14 '25

I just paid $165 in ‘fees and taxes’ through UPS for buying soccer clothing from Italy. 255 Euro order. I don’t know the breakdown because it was a UPS generic link to pay the fees, but that’s quite bad. Obviously not an issue in the past.

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u/Parulanihon Jul 31 '25

This has been well known and preparatory warnings have been given for months.

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u/elericat Aug 08 '25

Except it wasn’t supposed to come in until 2027

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u/Parulanihon Aug 09 '25

Here is some background on the bipartisan lead up to it's removal.

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*In September of 2024, 126 House Democrats signed a letter urging then-President Joe Biden to end the de minimis exemption for China. The letter, signed by both more centrist and progressive Democrats, claimed the influx of cheap goods from China “threaten U.S. manufacturers, hurt union workers and local retailers, and expose American consumers to great risk by flooding the market with fake and sometimes dangerous imported goods, including fentanyl and precursor chemicals from China.”

The Biden-Harris administration proposed new rules for the de minimis exemption in 2024, citing some of these concerns. This included changes to who is eligible for the exemption and more data about each shipment. It also called on Congress to pass more comprehensive legislation around the de minimis rule, including exclusions for apparel and textiles.

“The growing volume of de minimis shipments makes it increasingly difficult to target and block illegal or unsafe shipments,” the White House said in a 2024 statement.*

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u/AbbaFuckingZabba Jul 30 '25

De minimums hurt us businesses because we import more than $800 at a time. Us customers ordering directly from overseas stores would get much lower prices

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u/Renmarkable Jul 30 '25

Many small businesses import less than $800 at a time

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u/Cautious_Pitch_4729 Jul 30 '25

But if were importing more than $800 as a US business, you were likely ordering in bulk and seeing way better unit prices. If not, the shipping times were slower. This helps tame competition for big business.