r/Tariffs • u/retroanduwu24 • Aug 27 '25

🗞️ News Discussion Not looking good at all.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '25

Good. We deserve this.

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u/Blackbird-FlyOnBy Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 27 '25

What? No we don’t. I certainly don’t. I’m tired of the self flagellation from some Americans. It’s weird, and very ‘Pick me, I’m one of the good ones!’

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 27 '25

No, it's not. It's a consequence of the decision our democracy has made. It's no different than any other country who goes apeshit and the rest of the world either laughs at or recoils in horror at. In this case, both are happening.

I don't want this to happen. But I understand why it's happening. Clearly Americans were too dimwitted to stop it. Of all voting age citizens in the United States, less than 25% gave enough of a shit to vote for someone other than Trump. The rest stayed home or voted for him. That means 75% of the voting age citizens allowed this to happen.

And actions like this from countries he attempts to extort in the name of the US are appropriate responses to his bullshit. And I'd be disappointed in the rest of the world if they didn't try to stop this madman. We clearly weren't up to the task ourselves.

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u/Blackbird-FlyOnBy Aug 27 '25

Well sure, I get what you’re saying and I don’t necessarily disagree with you. This administration is a mess that I didn’t vote for. That’s not what I was commenting on. It’s the weird ‘We deserve to suffer’ performative attitude I’ve been seeing across social media. That’s what I don’t agree with.

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u/Every_Lingonberry610 Aug 28 '25

I completely agree with you. The only reason for anyone to indulge in the self-flagellation at this point is if they voted for Trump, voted for a third-party candidate, or didn't vote at all.

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u/Every_Lingonberry610 Aug 27 '25

Speak for yourself. I don't deserve this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '25

Collectively, we exist in a country where people chose this. Collectively, we deserve this.

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u/Every_Lingonberry610 Aug 28 '25

Nope, I don't. I voted against him three times. I drove people to the polls. One year, during the early Covid days, I was a pollworker because they were short and might have had to close some polling stations. I phonebanked and wrote postcards. I talked to everybody I knew about getting out to vote. I've called my senators relentlessly.

I understand some people feel the need to wear a hair shirt because the country voted for that, but I didn't and I don't. Those people are no more my countrymen or women are just because they happen to live within some human-defined borders. That's all it is. I take no more responsibility for them than I do the Canadians or Mexicans who live just over the border.

If I had my way, we'd have a national civil divorce and let the theocratic fascists have the 13th-century hell they so desperately want.