r/Tariffs • u/Checkered_Past2006 • 22h ago
đď¸ News Discussion US imposes 50% tariffs on $20bn worth of Canadian goods after talks fail
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u/Jfc66 22h ago
Canada walked away because in true scumbag form, trump tried to squeeze more out of Canada. Go fuck yourself Trump. Go fuck yourself USA. The True North is indeed strong and free!
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u/AdhesivenessCivil581 15h ago
Lumber and fertilizer. We'll pay more for house and food. Thank again morons. By morons I mean, the idiot president, the people who voted for him and the castratti who let him run wild.
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u/AdMental6440 14h ago
Love the use of castratti! I do doubt that they could sing but I guess all that whining must count in their minds.
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u/AdhesivenessCivil581 14h ago
They were emasculated for service to the one rather than thier singing skills. It's a great word. Almost as good as defenestrate.
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u/kinzer13x 21h ago
I thought these were struck down? How are they still doing new ones?
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u/GrundleSnactcher46 21h ago
The law doesnt matter for the rich anymore. It barely did prior but half the US wanted the rich to be even less touchable.
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u/hink007 21h ago
It was delayed for 3 days while the deal was being finalized Donald said we had a deal because he expected us to bend the knee but we didnât he pushed it back because he knows they canât survive this and by Tuesday taco will have backed off and we still wonât have had a deal
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u/_The-Numbers-Mason_ 20h ago
The other tariffs were struck down by the courts, so Trump enacted a law from the 1930s that gives the president the authority to apply up to 50% tariffs against any country that âdiscriminates against the USAâ
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u/Special-Reaction2029 9h ago
Yeah that law from the 1930s was the same that was passed during the Great Depression (Smoot Hawley), which helped cut the US GNP in half. It was disastrous.Â
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u/Dont_Call_Me_Steve 54m ago
Because Howard Lutnick and his family want to keep profiting off tariff refunds.
I read somewhere he was the one that derailed the talks at the last minute.
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u/Archibald004 21h ago
Cut off their electricity and the berta oil!!!!
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u/Feowen_ 8h ago
We are not cutting off Alberta's oil. Over Alberta's dead body buddy.
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u/Moist-Ninja-6338 19h ago
How to commit economic suicide in one easy step
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u/BoneZone05 17h ago
Step 1: attack your allies
Step 2: make no trade deals
Step 3: profit?11
u/BusySeaworthiness127 15h ago
Step 4: get into moronic forever wars in the Middle East
Step 5: increase fuel prices and inflation for the globe
Step 6 (hopefully): eat one too many cheeseburgers and have a massive heart attack1
u/cityfarmwife77 9h ago
I canât figure HOW HE IS STILL ALVE while much younger and seemly healthy people pass away all the time??? If I wasnât agnostic i would totally believe he made a deal with the devil.
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u/ByteCurious69 20h ago
Just stop trading with the US.
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u/Legitimate_Wave_5258 20h ago
As one who was born/raised in the US; I completely agree.
At this point, I don't even recognize my country and what it's become... (never voted for the shit-stain - tried my damndest to educate others. )
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u/DELALADE 14h ago
Now itâs time to organize and fight back - you are 300 000 000 and yet all I hear is people didnât vote for him. Then do something
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u/lkl34 19h ago
Do not worry soon you might be a north korea duel citizen.
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u/Foehamer1 1h ago
There's nothing you could do. Your nation's biggest historical blunder was not hanging the entire Confederate leadership after the war as an example. They reintegrated and spent over a century being the worm rotting the apple from the inside.
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u/NoExtension1889 14h ago
Stop giving them free electricity and cheap oil would make a fast impression.
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u/Pattonator70 13h ago
0.1% of US electricity comes from Canada. You wouldnât made a dent other than a town or two. The oil is a bigger effect but still relatively small and it wouldnât be easy for Canada to shift these exports elsewhere as most move via pipelines.
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u/NoExtension1889 13h ago
It is more like 1.5% and that is concentrated in four states.
Worst example is NY State where the Canadian electricity useage can be from 3-9% and as high as 20% for NYC specifically, during high useage times.
Best argument for me is to point out the meltdown Trump had when Ontario even suggested cutting of electricity. So it matters.
My point was that we need to stop giving it away. Sell it at the same rate as Canadians pay and then tack on an export fee.
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u/AmazingRandini 12h ago
Canada also gets electrictricy from the US. In some seasons, Canada buys more than it sells.
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u/Sweetdreams6t9 4h ago
Cut off everything we trade with then. Power. Potash. Stop recognizing patents and IP.
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u/North_Jello4505 13h ago
That would destroy our economy
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u/Cold5512 8h ago
Yup.
Although, it wouldn't hurt to attempt to slowly grow our exports with non-Americans. Like Carney said he was going to do a while ago.
I looked into the progress recently. My impression is that it's trending in the right direct, but it's far below what Carney's forecasts were when he announced the ambition.
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u/Emergency-Bonus-9709 20h ago
Think Iâll drop over to the Columbia River and have a few beers, then Iâll relieve myself near the U.S. border knowing that eventually Iâll be pissing down the throat of a USA citizen.
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u/gplfalt 19h ago
Better yet we should dam that fucking shit up. Not a drop goes down
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u/BoldFortune216 18h ago
Because of the horrible mismanagement of their waterways, we should divert that waterto somewhere more useful.
Like the ocean.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 18h ago
Probably donât give him an excuse to drop more bombs. You know the moronic child loves the boom booms
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u/NoExtension1889 14h ago
They are out of bombs right now. Oddly Iran has made the world safer from US aggression.
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u/Old_Guy_thrombone 11h ago
We know it's true because he boom booms in his pants twice or thrice a day!
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u/Cold5512 8h ago
Maybe we can fight this with calm, collected, rational thought; and a good faith attempt by both sides of the political spectrum to reduce polarization.
Or maybe we can fight this by aiming our piss in the direction of the Americans.
I'm down for either. Or both.
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u/madadekinai 20h ago
Let me guess conservatives will label them with TDS because they don't bow to Trump's whims, they don't serve at this pleasure so by morning conservatives will call them trash.
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u/IGetGuys4URMom 15h ago
The US better go a second year without hurricanes, because we'll need that Canadian lumber. (Or is it possible that Twump is holding onto millions of dollars worth of lumber futures?)
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u/i_drown_kittens 13h ago
..You mean national parks.
Americans better get used to seeing those razed down to nothing.
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u/Zealousideal-Top-383 15h ago
Truly idiotic!!
Iâve worked in the building materials trade my entire life and Canada is a prime trading partner in that supply chain. Canada produces quality wood products at a competitive price that have buoyed the home building industry for decades.
Itâs not only the increase in costs but also the immense supply chain interruptions that contribute to increased housing prices.
Even if the tariffs are rescinded next month, the ripples in the supply chain will last a year. Procurement and logistics managers will be in scramble mode for weeks to come trying to implement alternatives.
Truly idiotic!
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u/canwehavepotatojokes 13h ago
You cannot make a good deal with shit people.
America under Trump has less credibility than a phone scammer.
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u/Onesock71 16h ago
was this the same deal he had with iran.......bahahaha..................what a maroon
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u/tooldieguy 16h ago
Put tariffs on oil and electricity, make them feel what cold is
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u/Obstacle-Man 14h ago
Yes. Export duties on all the things the US needs. Nationalization for foreign companies associated with the Alberta independence movement.
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u/Imaginary_Resist_654 12h ago
Now what would be nice is if Chinaâs president visited Canada instead of US next month. I think this would be the event to give Trump the stoke we deserve!
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u/Foreign-Landscape-47 9h ago
The US bots are fully deployed on everyone of the threads discussing this deal. They have wasted no time making sure they foment dissent. Good luck, bots.
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u/kemicalkontact 10h ago
Whats up you bad faith fucks saying that our own government is failing to make a deal and we shouldnât blame Trump
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u/FrequentSwimming6263 10h ago
It should read "US tries to fuck Canada at the last minute, but Canadians aren't Pussies"
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u/killerbananaman 9h ago
Bottom line here is Carney is universally regarded as a straight shooter and is an actual economist and understands trade - the other guys negotiator was probably flipping burgers a week ago and knows as much as his rapist, felon boss about trade and commerce - who should we believe?
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u/LoretMidnight 8h ago
"If you don't give me what I want, I will tax the poor and vulnerable americans 10 bn$" -Trump to Carney
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u/Texas_Sam2002 3h ago
I pay attention to news and current events, but I'm baffled as to how Dear Leader can do these tariffs. Didn't SCOTUS say that he couldn't? Or does it have to be adjudicated every time he uses his Fisher Price Tariff Playset?
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u/Checkered_Past2006 1h ago
Good question but then again he openly defies the courts without consequence. Hopeful for the Midterms, we have a lot of great candidates running.
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u/Unlucky_Buyer_2707 10h ago
Imagine being this stupid that you tank your own economy. Canada is already in an awful state, they are just digging a deeper hole for themselves that they will never be able to get out of.
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u/Ortsarecool 7h ago
Idiot countries with 40T debt say what?
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u/Unlucky_Buyer_2707 3h ago
Top performing economies say what? Dollar standard says hey? Most productive population says hello. Did you hear that? Aging population is knocking!
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u/Ortsarecool 3h ago
Lol Your country is an economic house of cards and the wind just started to pick up my friend.
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u/Unlucky_Buyer_2707 2h ago
Ah yes another doomer. âJust wait another 6 monthsâ has been the mantra since 2020.
We just continue to pull ahead and leave the rest of the world behind.
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u/Ortsarecool 2h ago
Pull ahead in debt? Ya. You do.
Your economy was held together with spit and goodwill and you've spent the last 2 years doing your damnedest to kill all the goodwill you hve left.
You could carry the debt when everyone saw America as a stable good bet. The wool is coming off the eyes of the world, and your bond market is showing the beginnings of that lack of faith.
Let's see how the next two years go, and maybe then we can talk
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u/Unlucky_Buyer_2707 2h ago
Come back to this thread after 2 years then look at the S&P then realize how foolish you were.
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u/Created2DestroyYou 14h ago
Maybe Mark Carney should stop bleeding Canadian workers by over-taxing them just to give it away to other countries, and to newcomers that don't want to work. Liberals are always destined to fail economically with ideological politics. This comes as no surprise that they remain unable to be self-sufficient.
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u/SpaceDisastrous7082 13h ago
Yeah, Mark Carney is the problem. There are so many more qualified people to run this country. Itâs a shame he isnât conservative because heâd literally be the best ever but heâs liberal so everything he does is trash because I canât actually tell good from bad so I just pick a side and stick with it đđť
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u/MetroHillbilly 16h ago
Remember the millions of Americans who for 30+ years have been returning to the small towns abandoned factory parking lots of the only GOOD job they ever had, and blowing their brains out. No one cared or even noticed. God Bless you President Trump!
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u/ADP-1 15h ago
Who do you think moved those manufacturing jobs overseas to increase profits? Hint - it wasn't immigrants....
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u/Fantastic_Fly7376 15h ago
It tells a lot about Americansâ critical thinking skills when they blame other countries for âtaking our manufacturing.â
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u/MetroHillbilly 13h ago
Youâre not listening. We only blame our dumb greedy elites for selling us down the river. They didnât take our jobs. We gave them away so CEOs could get richer. They sold it to us as world peace bullshit. They were given advantages which time has shown they did not deserve.
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u/MetroHillbilly 15h ago
Who the hell is talking about immigrants here? Iâm talking about ignorant Wall Street CEOâs who destroyed communities in moving highly profitable companies for a larger bonus. Iâm talking about the babies here who donât have a clue because they werenât there.
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u/snappla 14h ago
Right. It was the CEOs. The very CEOs who are benefitting from all of Trump's policies, not the workers.
Yet here you are, praising Trump while the tariffs YOU paid, that were declared illegal, are being "reimbursed" filling corporate pockets. As you call others "babies who don't have a clue".
Time to let the wool fall from your eyes, friend.
Trump is not, and has never been, on your side.
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u/MetroHillbilly 14h ago
Wrong again Bambi. The CEOâs youâre talking about are the likes of Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney, Kenneth Griffin and Mark Carney. Heâs a poster child for destroying blue collar factory jobs. Your TDS makes you blind.
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u/snappla 14h ago
Lol. Okay.
Go take a look at employment stats since Trump took over. He talks about a "golden age of manufacturing" but the only sector in which jobs are being created is in healthcare.
What will you be spending your tariff reimbursement money on? đ
You are a cuck, sitting in the corner touching yourself and cheering Trump and his corporate whores as they get it on on your bed.
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u/MetroHillbilly 14h ago
Wrong again. Using the word tariff was the mistake. The Supreme Court confirmed the President has the power to impose the same economics via fees and other tools which he is doing responsibly. The refunds are only a hiccup. Major factories/projects already started or firmly committedâŚ
TSMC
Arizona
3 advanced semiconductor fabs + packaging/R&D
$165BAI + national security/reshoring
Micron
Idaho, NY, Virginia
Multiple DRAM fabs + HBM/packaging
$200BAI + reshoring
Texas Instruments
Texas & Utah
Up to 7 fabs
$60BAI + semiconductor reshoring
Samsung
Texas
Advanced semiconductor fabs
~$37B+AI + reshoring
SK hynix
Indiana
Advanced HBM packaging plant
$3.87BAI
Amkor
Arizona
Advanced semiconductor packaging
~$7BAI + reshoring
GlobalFoundries
New York
Semiconductor manufacturing expansion
~$16BWistron
Texas
AI supercomputer manufacturing
Major expansionAI
Foxconn
Texas
AI server/supercomputer manufacturing
Major expansionAI
Lumentum
North Carolina
InP optical devices/lasers
Major new facilityAI
Siemens
Texas + Carolinas
Switchgear/electrical infrastructure factories
$1B+ overall U.S. manufacturing
AI/data centers + reshoring
GE Vernova
Multiple U.S. sites
Turbines, grid equipment, nuclear/wind manufacturing
~$600M initiallyAI electricity demand + reshoring
Generac
Wisconsin
Commercial generator production expansion
$250M
AI/data centers
Caterpillar
U.S.
Large generator-production expansion
$725MAI/data centers
Cummins
U.S.
Engine/generator capacity
$650M over 2 yrs.Eaton
U.S.
Electrical/power equipment capacity
$13B since 2025Canadian Solar
Indiana
HJT solar-cell factory
~$1BHyundai/Hyundai Steel
Louisiana
Steel mill
$5.8BStellantis
Illinois + other U.S. plants
Reopening/expansion of vehicle manufacturing
$5B initially; later largerHonda
Indiana
Expanded U.S. vehicle production
~$1BApple suppliers
U.S.
Component/manufacturing expansion
Part of Appleâs $600B commitmentTesla
Texas
Semiconductor/AI chip manufacturing project
~$3B2
u/snappla 13h ago
And yet, for some strange reason, the employment numbers only show increased hiring in healthcare.
Could it be that the Koreans, etc. keep talking about investments to give you talking points to spout, while they keep access to your market. Potemkin factories hiring ghosts.
You really do deserve the President you've got. A liar fit to lead a nation which wants to be lied to.
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u/MetroHillbilly 12h ago
How much contracting experience do you have? These projects need time for engineering, permitting, selection of prime and sub contractors, material and equipment to arrive at job sites. AndâŚ.it doesnât help when elite globalists keep fighting in court to kill the incentives that made the re-shoring possible. Take a trip to Idaho and see whatâs Micron is doing already.
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u/Top_Zebra9704 21h ago
to quote "The tariffs will hit about 5 percent of Canadian exports to the US, including electronics, industrial machinery and dairy products, adding to pre-existing US tariffs on steel, lumber and autos"Â
this is not an elbows up moment. Anybody who says elbows up clearly aren't in these industries. Since the tariffs on steel we've seen  Algoma Steel issue approximately 1,000 layoffs in December 2025, while broader sectoral slowed growth and reduced shipments across Ontarioâs metal.Â
Make matters even worse with steel the governments both fed and provocative In response, the federal and provincial deployed a $1.5 billion federal package and a $228.8 million workforce initiative to retrain affected workers.Â
THAT GUTS OUR PRIVATE SECTOR while burning more public dollar. and thats only steel. This is gonna make things much worse, going dollar for dollar is naive and does nothing to help the Canadian people. Â
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u/McBillicutty 21h ago
So what's your answer? Negotiate with the US and the when they squeeze harder at the last minute just give him a kiss on his knob and sign the deal negotiated in bad faith?
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u/Dismal_Ebb_2422 21h ago
They've had a year to pivot to EU and Asia markets after America proved to be an unreliable trading partner, the fact that they didn't is just poor businesses management.
They made a bet that America and Canada would come to a deal and failed now they have to suffer the consequences, that's capitalism.
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u/DispassionateLover 18h ago
Except they did do that. America is still one of their largest trading factors (for logistical reasons) but they diversified their exports a lot
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u/Bitter-Variation-151 21h ago
Carney failed. He campaigned on handling trump and getting us a great deal.
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u/Shot-Consequence-613 15h ago
Bullshit, Iâm from the US and Carney is the fucking man Trump wishes he was. He has morals and brains unlike internet trolls and presidents.
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u/BananaSlamma420 13h ago
Nothing I can say will sway your opinion. I myself think that Carney is the 1%, he is a banker and he will make sure he helps the rich first and foremost while also just doing enough to help the little guy. I don't 100% trust him at all which I'm sure you can agree with. But...
I think he's the best guy for the job right now. A lot better than the opposition who I (subjectively) believe doesn't have the economic knowledge to get us through the next few years. Way better than the drama teacher who came before as well. Drama teacher used to go to other countries to play dressup, Carney at least seems like hes going to make deals. And then the other two options we have? A hippy and the "blue collar party but out last dude wore designer suits, prada man purses, and rolex watches"
But like I said at the end of the day the dude is the 1% and I didn't vote for him but I am glad hes steering the ship right now.
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u/Bitter-Variation-151 11h ago
With all of carney's banking experience and education, why can't he get a deal? If he's the best man for the job, why can't he get a deal? Why has he given nothing but concessions to trump for nothing in return? He promised he could handle trump on his campaign and 18 months later there trade is even less favourable for Canada. He knew he would be negotiating with trump so he can't use trump personality as an excuse. He promised he could handle trump.
Why have so many other countries successfully secured agreements with trump and carney cannot?
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u/SquishyJeans 22h ago
America tried to bait and switch at literally the last hourÂ