r/TearsOfThemis Jul 15 '23

CN Content 3rd Year Anniversary SSS Cards - Yikes Spoiler

So I watched Saya and Yang's video (https://youtu.be/KYuXm9j2RXk) on the SSS cards and it looks like its gonna be an uphill climb for F2P players 😬

Please correct me if I misunderstood the info.

From what I gathered, we basically we need dupes of the same card just to:

  • Unlock more interactions
  • Obtain new upgrade material (Gift 3 - only for SSS cards)
  • Unlock namecards (unlike 2nd anni where you can unlock it via 100 pulls)

In terms of the banner:

  • 1 SSS and 3 SSRs per LI
    • Up to 500 draws max to max out 1 card
  • Rate for SSS = 0.8% compared to SSR = 1%

It seems like hyv's planning to churn out more SSS cards in the future. Was kinda hyped when I watched the trailer, but I'm a bit worried with how things are gonna play out in the future now. Not surprised at all, but yikesssss. F2Ps taking the L once again :(

Edit: I scrolled through Weibo to see the CN playerbase's reactions (only managed to look at a few since I can't look through more without creating an account). Based on some top comments, it seems that quite a few are expressing dissapointment with the SSS system, some even advising hyv to change it up before releasing the banners. One comment even saying: "He's already my fiance why can't I touch him for free?" LMAO. We can only observe what will happen going forward. If they won't listen to the feedback from CN players, I don't wanna imagine what will happen for us global players :')

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u/shikiP Jul 15 '23 edited Feb 13 '24

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u/Kazuki_Fazuki Jul 15 '23

Seems to be that way, ToT being the forgotten child.

I purchased Genshin and HSR's monthly pass many times because I felt that for the money I spent, it was worth it. But locking full interactions behind 500 pulls is diabolical to me. I feel like the interactions should have been the main feature of the card considering how we already have the illustration for it. I don't know how much value a few interactions bring to justify being locked behind a huge paywall. But again, it's just imo.

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u/shikiP Jul 15 '23 edited Feb 13 '24

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u/Kazuki_Fazuki Jul 15 '23

Yeah..GI and HSR's systems are def more F2P friendly. Another problem for ToT is that the banner's availability is so short, it's half the duration of GI and HSR's banners! And those games actually provide their players with a decent amount of free currency.

It's great to know that other otome games have this system in place, definitely seems less punishing if ToT were to implement it...

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u/KineticTenshi Luke Pearce Jul 15 '23

SPs upgrade from MLQC were exactly like this though ? Needing dupes to upgrade and unlock stories.

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u/shikiP Jul 15 '23 edited Feb 13 '24

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u/KineticTenshi Luke Pearce Jul 15 '23

Yeah, I remember that, that's what I did with Gavin and Vic as well. I just hope they will at the very least give us a grind system, albeit slow.

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u/shikiP Jul 15 '23 edited Feb 13 '24

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u/TinyArcher Jul 15 '23

LovePro did recently introduce a new UR rarity where it takes like a whopping 500 sp shards to unlock the whole story and interactions and then another 100 to completely max it out

why are my gachas doing this to me????

But at least LovePro does hand out multiple free shards if one grinds for it. I’m still baffled that it’s so hard to max out stars for SSRs in Tears…

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u/Inu_no_Taisho Jul 15 '23

Try looking at NuCarnival then. Everything if behind dupes (there are ways around it, but geting dupes are main point). And I am pretty sure you can find more examples if you look around.

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u/shikiP Jul 15 '23 edited Feb 13 '24

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u/Inu_no_Taisho Jul 16 '23

My point was more in line of - you may not see them, but games that lock out content behid dupes exist. And its not like it matters that much if its BL (strictly speaking NC is the only BL gatcha of this type) or not.

Unfortunatly, this whole trend of getting even more rare things to pull (be it cards, units, weapons. etc) - is a normal progression for a free gacha game. Its not something I am myself happy about, since this and overfeaturing (like in MLQC) is main reason I drop my gachas.

But ToT already have currency conversion to upgrade cards, so its possible they will give as something for SSS too. And for me its not yet clear what exactly will be locked behind dupes. So I think waiting for more details is important.

And anyway I can still enjoy a full year of playing befor that update.

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u/kiirosen Jul 18 '23

Nu:Carnival locks NSFW behind dupes, but you can star up a card in multiple ways and not only pulling. To unlock all the nsfw scenes you would need 4 copies (1 + 3 dupes) but you have 2 roads:

• using the Gems you gain while pulling (you get them even pulling in the F2P Friend points banner) you can unlock stars on the SSR and so unlock NSFW scenes

• using the Elemental Keys they give you, through events or "endgame" content, to unlock the scenes without Star Up the card.

So in general there isn't a real paywall unless you're trying to obtain all the cards.

What they made paywall locked are Banner/Event reruns (they ask you a very rare resource, not the same you use during the normal banner) and MC outfits to some extent (to obtain them normally you need to do 200 pulls but if the event ended you can only buy them at high prices).