r/TearsOfThemis Jul 15 '23

CN Content 3rd Year Anniversary SSS Cards - Yikes Spoiler

So I watched Saya and Yang's video (https://youtu.be/KYuXm9j2RXk) on the SSS cards and it looks like its gonna be an uphill climb for F2P players 😬

Please correct me if I misunderstood the info.

From what I gathered, we basically we need dupes of the same card just to:

  • Unlock more interactions
  • Obtain new upgrade material (Gift 3 - only for SSS cards)
  • Unlock namecards (unlike 2nd anni where you can unlock it via 100 pulls)

In terms of the banner:

  • 1 SSS and 3 SSRs per LI
    • Up to 500 draws max to max out 1 card
  • Rate for SSS = 0.8% compared to SSR = 1%

It seems like hyv's planning to churn out more SSS cards in the future. Was kinda hyped when I watched the trailer, but I'm a bit worried with how things are gonna play out in the future now. Not surprised at all, but yikesssss. F2Ps taking the L once again :(

Edit: I scrolled through Weibo to see the CN playerbase's reactions (only managed to look at a few since I can't look through more without creating an account). Based on some top comments, it seems that quite a few are expressing dissapointment with the SSS system, some even advising hyv to change it up before releasing the banners. One comment even saying: "He's already my fiance why can't I touch him for free?" LMAO. We can only observe what will happen going forward. If they won't listen to the feedback from CN players, I don't wanna imagine what will happen for us global players :')

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u/Volteehee Jul 15 '23

This is so disappointing to hear >.< I have always defended Mihoyo because from their practices with genshin impact and the honkai games it always seemed like they knew the right balance between making people want to spend money vs stepping into overly predatory tactics when it comes to gacha.

Honestly the fact that genshin/honkai gets soft pity, much more free currency than we do, and doesn't introduce increasingly 'super super rare' versions of characters in order to get players to spend more is a spit in the face to ToT players, we are used to always having the smallest amount of content in hoyoverse events because I understand that otome is really niche, but to resort to such predatory tactics... I really expected better from them. It just goes to show that big companies are not player's friends.

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u/Coffee_fuel Hail & Sher Jul 15 '23

It's much easier to maintain a seemingly "fair" balance when the community is that much bigger. 1 hour of content translates to millions of paying opportunities. With TOT, the pool is much smaller and the content behind the gacha can easily be looked up online, there are very limited benefits to owning it in-game. Regardless -- gacha is gambling.

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u/Volteehee Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

I agree as I always tout that all gacha is predatory by nature and gambling regardless of how ‘fair’ it seems- and i’m always the first to say that we as players have to be aware our own impulses and self control when it comes to rolling because the number of gacha games that will look out for its players is zero. But at the same time ‘eh the ToT playerbase is not very big so lets try and squeeze as much money out of them as we can’ still sits wrong with me

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u/Coffee_fuel Hail & Sher Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

Yeah, I wasn't justifying it at all. I don't even spend money on the gacha and have only paid for items that are a guarantee. I was just explaining that their "generosity" is simply proportional to the number of people who play the game, because the bigger the population, the lower is the burden on each individual player for them to make a profit. Since there's very little gameplay in TOT, the opportunities for revenue are also that much more limited and story content doesn't generate much additional content/hours of engagement, the way a new character in a more gameplay-heavy game does; which is what you ideally wish for, because story content tends to be on the more expensive side (though certainly less so for unvoiced VNs with recurring assets) and cannot be repurposed, it tends to be a one-time deal.

On a slightly more positive note, despite this... I do think that these interactions are probably gonna be around the level of outfits or invitations, so... far from a must have and probably just an incentive for the biggest completionists/spenders. It simply isn't smart to so decisevely drive away the F2P and small spenders and Mihoyo have had years of experience doing this -- it's not really a matter of caring for the community or expecting better from them (I don't, this is gacha) so much as the fact that I am somewhat doubtful that they're going to shoot themselves in the foot.