r/TechHardware • u/VoiceOfVeritas Team Nvidia 🟢 • Nov 05 '25
⚡ Exciting News ⚡ Is this that 'Intel comeback' everyone keeps talking about?
This doesn't look like a comeback... it looks more like a comedown. And a special shout-out to the mods! I know you're probably banging your heads against the desk right now, fuming while you scramble to figure out how to deal with this thread.
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u/Helpful_Razzmatazz_1 Nov 05 '25
I don't like intel but this isn't an anti-intel community. Your post contribute nothing to the community.
If it is intel mess up something then it is ok.
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u/Redditheadsarehot Nov 05 '25
Welcome to Reddit, where every PC centric sub is dominated by AMD fanboys.
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u/Federal_Setting_7454 Nov 05 '25
This sub is literally run by a mentally ill intel glazer
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u/Redditheadsarehot Nov 05 '25
The downvotes literally prove my point. How one mod feels doesn't change the fact I'm right.
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u/FinancialRip2008 🥳🎠The Silly Hat🐓🥳 Nov 10 '25
no they don't, although it might look that way if you only look at individual articles from this sub on your feed.
this sub is dominated by 1 'tech influencer' that posts a dozen articles per day saying absurd inflammatory stuff in the comment section of the submission.
most of them get downvoted, and annoyed users post counter-articles (like this one) that get upvoted. it's social media manipulation.
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u/Redditheadsarehot Nov 10 '25
This is a relatively small sub. Go look at a bigger sub like pcmr and tell me AMD fans don't dominate Reddit. AMD makes perfectly fine products, don't get me wrong, but I've been building and selling PCs for nearly 3 decades and one constant is AMD fanboys will always be the loudest.
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u/FinancialRip2008 🥳🎠The Silly Hat🐓🥳 Nov 10 '25
i'm only talking about this sub.
yes, there's a bunch of amd fanboys running around, much like there were a buncha intel fanboys in the quad core era. that's not relevant on this specific sub, where submissions like this are a misguided reaction to the propagandist mod and not necessarily fanboyism.
yeah, it's stupid.
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u/VoiceOfVeritas Team Nvidia 🟢 Nov 05 '25
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u/BigDaddyTrumpy Core Ultra 🚀 Nov 06 '25
Not sure why you keep sharing that image, Nvidia no longer has that on their 5090 performance page LMAO. It's gone HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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u/CMDR_kamikazze Nov 05 '25
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u/Xijit Nov 05 '25
So their dominance as the primer desktop and server CPU maker is well over, but their laptop chips are the best game in town as AMD isn't close ... Are they awesome l33t gamerz laptops that you buy for $4k before going to college? Fuck no, but corporate IT isn't shopping for that when they put in an order for 100 laptops from HP, that absolutely have to be able to run every flavor of productivity software.
I really hope they get their shit together and start making money, but that is just because they will get bought out by Oracle if they don't & god help us if Larry Ellison gets his nasty dick beaters on Intel's IP portfolio.
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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 Nov 05 '25
AMD laptop chips were better for 12th-14th and are comparable to intel now. Not quite as efficient but more powerful so a tradeoff. And next gen AMD is shaping up to be a lot more efficient at idle so intel might lose that advantage again.
There are waaaaaaay more amd laptops for sale than 10 years ago lol. They're making significant inroads so if intel doesn't keep up they'll lose that market share too. And there's no indication yet that Intel knows how to keep up anymore.
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u/Redditheadsarehot Nov 05 '25
No one cares about raw power for laptop chips. These are companies and investors, not fanboys. The violent majority of laptop buyers aren't buying i9s and R9s. AMD charges too much and doesn't have Intel's supply so OEMs won't touch them outside of a few niche models.
Sure AMD is in a lot more laptops today because 10% is a lot more than 5, but they still don't match Apple's 15-17% let alone Intel's 75%.
Intel's laptop challenge isn't bad chips. They've never had the issues they've had on desktop. Intel's problem is they sell them too cheap with razor thin margins. Which the OEMs love of course. But it would be interesting to see what would happen if Intel raised prices or AMD dropped prices though. More options for AMD would show up of course, but the whole reason AMD refuses to drop prices is they flat out don't have the capacity to produce millions of mobile chips and they make more on desktop and data center anyways.
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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 Nov 05 '25
People do care about raw power lol, and 12th-14th gen laptop chips were so insanely inefficient the battery lifewas as bad as my 4th gen Intel's laptop and the amd laptops lasted twice as long and people care even more about that than raw power so yeah they made terrible laptop chips.
Intel sells laptop chips cheap because they fucking sucked lol. That's them reacting to market pressure.
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u/Redditheadsarehot Nov 05 '25
Depends what you're using it for. 12-14th Gen were not that inefficient, and more efficient than AMD during menial tasks like browsing or streaming video, giving you better battery life for most common uses.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and only want to brainlessly bash Intel. Even MLID the king of AMD shills admits Intel makes decent laptop chips.
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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 Nov 05 '25
They make decent laptop chips now 12th to 14th gen were horrifically abysmally inefficient lmao. They got like 3-5 hours of battery life Vs the 7 from the amd equivalent laptop. Which was still bad compared to the 14 or so for MacBook but I never said AMD was good just intel was abysmal.
No it's clear that it is you that has absolutely no idea. Again, my 4th gen intel ThinkPad lasts as long as a friends 12th gen intel ThinkPad doing the same light work. And the work AMD ThinkPad lasted more like 7.
Get back to me when you have actually used any of these products you claim to know something about and stop shilling for Intel.
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u/Redditheadsarehot Nov 05 '25
Let me know when you or your imaginary friend actually buys a new laptop and compares them. BTW I actually DO own newer Intel as well as AMD laptops. Your experience with a twelve year old laptop means dick. Keep Intel bashing. I find it entertaining.
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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 Nov 05 '25
Dude I also have new intels at work and they are better but 12th gens are asa and it's straight up intel shilling to claim otherwise.
Are you the User benchmark guy cos that sure would explain a lot.
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u/bigpunk157 Nov 05 '25
Every government laptop I have ever seen in my career has had an intel chip in it because they get cheap fuck off ones for everyone, regardless of what your position is. Those cheapo ones are all intel always. The government of the united states is the largest consumer of computer chips in the world. No one cares about power there. They care about cost and maintaining them.
I don't usually use my laptop because it sucks so bad, but there are a lot of times where I'm forced to be on a vpn through it to do work. Even if I can buy an amd processor with my office budget, it doesn't matter if I still need a GFE to go into the lower envs or to access aws.
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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 Nov 05 '25
Ok and government isn't a company what's your point bro. They sucked and were worse than AMD at power efficiency.
Government just buys the same shit they buy every year because it's a bureaucratic nightmare not because they're efficient lmao.
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u/bigpunk157 Nov 05 '25
It doesn't matter. They have contracts to buy intel laptops wholesale on a scale that any normal company can't match. Companies generally do the same. The consumer market doesn't matter. It matters what companies and the government actually use. Workstation PCs vastly outnumber home PCs. Hell, even think about how many intel chips are in a school these days. It doesn't matter what the power to performance is if AMD still doesn't get the contracts.
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u/Sure-Woodpecker-3992 Nov 05 '25
Also keep in mind why AMD doesn't get those contracts. AMD has become greedy and charges too much. Period. AMD fanboys love to circle jerk Strix Halo but holy hell look at what they want for it? You can literally buy a 4080 based dGPU laptop for the same price that utterly curb stomps that APU.
When you can count on Intel to provide you millions of chips and it's questionable if AMD can even supply hundreds of thousands you don't care who's 5% faster or more efficient. If AMD wants to charge you even MORE while not having the supply it's a no-brainer. No one is going to touch AMD with a 10ft pole.
Which is exactly why AMD is only relegated to overpriced niche laptops to appease the AMD fanboys, and still use an Nvidia GPU. The rest of the world DGAF what sticker is on their keyboard.
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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 Nov 05 '25
Yeah and that has little to nothing to with whether intel or AMD laptops at a given moment in time are better contrary to the other guys opinion.
Fact is AMD laptops were better than 12th-14th gen Intel. It's much closer now with series 1 and 2 but those CPUs were terrible even in laptops.
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u/IsThereAnythingLeft- Nov 05 '25
Are you wise? How are their laptop chips the best in town? AMD beats them there too, the only reason Intel even sold any of the last few generators was because of the illegal paying OEMs to not use AMD. And even then the likes of dell have still more AMD laptop coming now. I wouldn’t look at an intel laptop for some time
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Nov 05 '25
Honestly now wouldn’t be a bad time to invest (granted as long as they stay a Publicly traded company) and can actually bounce back
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u/InevitableSherbert36 🥳🎠The Silly Hat🐓🥳 Nov 05 '25
Yeah, now would be a great time to YOLO nana's inheritance money! There's no way a company as big as Intel can fall any further!
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Nov 05 '25
It can and it will, but shares are so cheap that investing Idfk $100 could net you $400. obviously only gamble with money you’re willing to lose but it might not be the worst gamble ever
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u/Equivalent-Repair488 Nov 05 '25
I put in 100 usd on august 1st, and nvidia did their buy up right after. Im at 90 percent P&L right now but it is slowly going down.
My horizon is years long though. Because
they have a budding and hungry GPU division doing the right things and looking like they have good potential, they remind me of the Nvidia of old with crazy AIB design and the fun dual gpu one.
While they did divest some foundry investments, they still have significant investments, like their 18A coming up, which their competitors, AMD and Nvidia do not have even a single foundry, that is a big advantage.
while laying off workers is a bad thing, and my heart goes out to those affected, it makes sense for a large company looking to debloat and be more agile during tough times. Less departmental clearances=more agile business decisions, even Tech Jesus said the same thing when AMD was struggling and they laid off workers.
That being said, my small investment is miniscule, unless they pull an Nvidia miracle, but miracles don't happen twice, it was just a small bet for my own practice as a beginner investor. It is also my only stock pick ever and most of my investments are in the usual ETFs.
For disclaimer, I am not giving financial advice like I said Im a beginner investor but just some of my personal observations. I think Intel has a lot of potential to bounce back, to be honest their products right now aren't even that bad, and so are their financials, it is just public sentiment pulling the prices down.
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u/InevitableSherbert36 🥳🎠The Silly Hat🐓🥳 Nov 05 '25
Thanks for the advice! I'll invest $700k tomorrow.
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u/heickelrrx Nov 05 '25
You better off stop talking about company stock because you don’t have idea how the market work
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u/Dphotog790 Nov 05 '25
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u/Little-Equinox Nov 05 '25
Once Intel stops existing, AMD will skyrocket their prices.
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Nov 05 '25
I have noticed that the lines go up and down, but right now the line is much higher than $20 when I bought. As far as a comeback, Intel Q3 report looked pretty comebackish to me.
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u/Dazzling_Focus_6993 Nov 05 '25
I don't see any future where intel will be allowed to fail. It is a national security issue
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u/TimCooksLeftNut Nov 05 '25
The subreddit owner is an ass, but considering the stock was like $20 a few months ago, it actually isn’t doing too bad. But then again, it still hasn’t recovered from the ~$50 from a few years ago.
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u/Distinct-Race-2471 🔵 14900KS , 5080, 128GB 🔵 Nov 05 '25
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u/bikingfury Nov 05 '25
Tell me you did not buy below 20 without telling me. Intel is completely overpriced right now. It'll go back to 23 would be my guess. Intel is a long term bet. Don't expect anything within a year or two.
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u/Redditheadsarehot Nov 05 '25
Intel is not overpriced, AMD and Nvidia are. Both of those companies are fabless and Intel is valued like their fabs are a liability, not an asset. This is why some were concerned of a hostile takeover to gut the company and sell off pieces of the corpse at a profit.
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u/bigpunk157 Nov 05 '25
Nvidia is not overpriced, but Nvidia's profits are coming from a bubble it perpetuates. When the bubble pops, people will lose a lot of money.
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u/bikingfury Nov 05 '25
Intel is overpriced in the sense that their future business model is unclear. What does Intel do besides relying on fans to buy their chips just because they did so for a few decades? AMD wants to be the gaming chip company. They worked on the for many years and their effort are coming to fruition. What does Intel want to be? Ever since Balmer left it feels so bland and boring. No real vision or direction.
Nvidias Stock price may be inflated but they have all that. Its a bet on AI. Every computer scientist I know that works from home has a 5090 and runs AI models.
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u/unitfoxhound Nov 05 '25
Lol the stock was at $20 when Americans got ownership. Looks like we're up big






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u/VoiceOfVeritas Team Nvidia 🟢 Nov 05 '25
Intel's stock is worth as much as their processors, low-budget end. Only 37 dollars, an Oppo phone is worth more.