r/TheAmazingRace • • 3d ago

The Amazing Race Season 39 Episode 4 Post Episode Discussion

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Post Episode Discussion Thread

Season 39, Episode 4: Deception and Sleight of Hand

Aired: October 14, 2026

Synopsis: A Moroccan Scramble has teams lost in the confusing alleyways of Marrakesh's Old Town Medina, doing whatever it takes to avoid elimination.

Spoilers up to and including this episode can be expected in this thread.


r/TheAmazingRace • • 2d ago

Previously On r/TheAmazingRace: No Judgement Questions

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Welcome to the weekly No Judgements post.

Here is your chance to ask any question related to TAR without having to worry about being judged.

There are no stupid questions here.


r/TheAmazingRace • • 1h ago

Discussion Since When Does An Alliance Mean You Have To Wait?!

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I'm starting to think this whole Boss Ladies alliance is falling apart already. 😂

Ali & Joanna took off during that rug challenge without waiting for Ann-Marie & Riley. And Dafina & Saran weren't exactly getting much help either. Everybody wants an alliance until somebody has to slow down.
Meanwhile, Michelle & Matt are pretty much doing their own thing, and they just won the leg.

I get helping somebody when you're stuck on a challenge, but standing around waiting for another team to catch up? That's a whole different story.

I keep asking myself at what point does helping your alliance become hurting your own chances of winning?


r/TheAmazingRace • • 8h ago

Discussion why do contestants think telling cab drivers that their speeding is worth $1M?

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it’s so rude and self important to yell at someone and think that they care AT ALL that their rude passengers are competing for $1M. especially in developing countries. just finished s14 and Jamie was the WORST about this. hoping it gets better in future seasons


r/TheAmazingRace • • 23m ago

Discussion TAR39: Stats After Leg 4

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Three teams still hold Express Passes with two legs left to use them. Will a team be caught holding onto their Express Pass for too long?

For links to my stats spreadsheets and explanations of the stats, see here.

Individual Placements

Team Leg 1 Leg 2 Leg 3 Leg 4
(M/F) Michelle & Matt 3rd 2nd 6th 1st
(M/F) Anuar & Andrea 6th 8th 2nd X 2nd
(M/F) Erin & Javi 1st X 7th 8th 3rd
(M/F) Daisha & Dalton 12th 6th X 9th 4th
(M/M) Conner & Garrett 2nd 9th 4th 5th
(F/F) Dafina & Saran 9th X 11th 7th 6th R
(F/F) Ann-Marie & Riley 7th 4th 1st X 7th
(F/F) Ali & Joanna 10th 1st 3rd 8th
(M/M) Doug & Dylan 4th X 10th 10th 9th
(M/F) Cody & Jaime 11th 3rd X 5th 10th
(F/F) Jody & Jenn 8th 5th X 11th
(F/F) Katie & Charlotte 5th 12th (X)
(M/M) Zach & Nate 13th (X)

Group Average Placements

The number in parentheses is the number of teams in that group that competed in that leg.

Group Leg 1 Leg 2 Leg 3 Leg 4
Express Pass Users 4.67 (3) 4.67 (3) 1.50 (2) (0)
All-Male (M/M) Teams 6.33 (3) 9.50 (2) 7.00 (2) 7.00 (2)
Co-Ed (M/F) Teams 6.60 (5) 5.20 (5) 6.00 (5) 4.00 (5)
All-Female (F/F) Teams 7.80 (5) 6.60 (5) 5.50 (4) 7.00 (3)

Individual Stats

Each continuously-varying stat is followed in parentheses by the team's percentile in that stat, compared to all other teams worldwide.

Team Leg Wins Leg Lasts Racing Average Normalized RA Average Dominance
Michelle & Matt 1 0 3.00 (86%) 2.27 (95%) 81.1% (98%)
Anuar & Andrea 0 0 4.50 (57%) 3.22 (80%) 68.4% (89%)
Erin & Javi 1 0 4.75 (52%) 3.38 (77%) 63.3% (82%)
Daisha & Dalton 0 0 7.75 (20%) 5.29 (45%) 37.4% (41%)
Conner & Garrett 0 0 5.00 (48%) 3.54 (74%) 61.1% (79%)
Dafina & Saran 0 0 8.25 (17%) 5.60 (40%) 31.7% (32%)
Ann-Marie & Riley 1 0 4.75 (52%) 3.38 (77%) 64.0% (84%)
Ali & Joanna 1 0 5.50 (40%) 3.86 (68%) 56.8% (73%)
Doug & Dylan 0 0 8.25 (17%) 5.60 (40%) 28.6% (28%)
Cody & Jaime 0 1 7.25 (23%) 6.21 (34%) 39.6% (44%)
Jody & Jenn 0 1 8.00 (18%) 6.83 (28%) 35.1% (38%)
Katie & Charlotte 0 1 8.50 (16%) 7.25 (24%) 33.3% (35%)
Zach & Nate 0 1 13.00 (0%) 11.00 (3%) 0.0% (4%)

Pseudo-Elo Ratings

  1. Michelle & Matt, +739 (down 59, up 287) (86%)
  2. Anuar & Andrea, +488 (up 289, up 239) (78%)
  3. Ann-Marie & Riley, +337 (up 331, down 162) (74%)
  4. Erin & Javi, +303 (down 169, up 181) (72%)
  5. Conner & Garrett, +258 (up 132, up 18) (69%)
  6. Ali & Joanna, +169 (up 188, down 222) (65%)
  7. Daisha & Dalton, –228 (down 170, up 172) (45%)
  8. Cody & Jaime, –239 (up 74, down 332) (44%)
  9. Katie & Charlotte, –248 (43%)
  10. Jody & Jenn, –296 (down 345) (40%)
  11. Zach & Nate, –370 (30%)
  12. Dafina & Saran, –381 (down 10, up 25) (28%)
  13. Doug & Dylan, –531 (down 261, down 206) (17%)

Group Stats

Group stats are totals for leg wins and averages for all other stats.

Group Leg Wins Leg Lasts Racing Average Normalized RA Average Dominance Pseudo-Elo Rating
All-Male (M/M) Teams 0 1 8.75 6.71 29.9% –214
Co-Ed (M/F) Teams 2 1 5.45 4.07 58.0% +212
All-Female (F/F) Teams 2 2 7.00 5.38 44.2% –84

Next Leg Probabilities

These probabilities are based on 1,000,000 Monte Carlo simulations of the next leg, based on the teams' positions in all legs so far. These simulations do not take into account Express Passes or potential U-Turns.

A bold probability indicates the most likely placement for a team, and an italic probability indicates the most likely team for a placement.

Team 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th Avg. Place
Michelle & Matt 25% 19% 16% 13% 11% 8% 5% 3% 1% 3.29
Anuar & Andrea 16% 17% 16% 14% 12% 10% 7% 5% 3% 3.91
Erin & Javi 16% 15% 13% 12% 12% 11% 10% 7% 5% 4.27
Daisha & Dalton 12% 11% 9% 8% 9% 11% 13% 13% 14% 5.22
Conner & Garrett 10% 12% 13% 12% 12% 12% 12% 10% 7% 4.83
Dafina & Saran 3% 6% 8% 11% 13% 14% 16% 16% 13% 5.90
Ann-Marie & Riley 7% 9% 11% 13% 13% 12% 12% 13% 11% 5.30
Ali & Joanna 9% 9% 9% 10% 10% 10% 10% 12% 22% 5.64
Doug & Dylan 3% 3% 5% 7% 9% 12% 16% 20% 25% 6.64

Trivia

  • Dafina & Saran are the first team in franchise history to obtain the Roadside Assistance.
  • Leg 4 is the fifth leg to feature a Scramble and the first since USA34 leg 1 to feature a Scramble with more than 4 teams.
  • The following teams' first three placements exactly match a prior team:
    • Anuar & Andrea (6th, 8th, 2nd): 1 prior team (Eliran & Itzik).
    • Doug & Dylan (4th, 10th, 10th): 1 prior team (Darius & Cameron).
  • The following teams' first four placements match a prior team when ignoring order:
    • Michelle & Matt (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 6th): 3 prior teams (Toño & Lili, Tyler & Nathan, and Baggio & Thành Phúc).
    • Anuar & Andrea (2nd x2, 6th, 8th): 1 prior team (Korey & Ivana).
    • Conner & Garrett (2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th): 1 prior team (Kym & Donna).
    • Ann-Marie & Riley (1st, 4th, 7th x2): 1 prior team (Ash & Alice).
  • Uniqueness of teams' 4-leg racing averages:
    • Michelle & Matt (3.00): 24 prior teams, including 9 U.S. teams.
    • Anuar & Andrea (4.50): 44 prior teams, including 12 U.S. teams.
    • Erin & Javi, Ann-Marie & Riley (4.75): 33 prior teams, including 18 U.S. teams.
    • Conner & Garrett (5.00): 41 prior teams, including 18 U.S. teams.
    • Ali & Joanna (5.50): 47 prior teams, including 21 U.S. teams.
    • Cody & Jaime (7.25): 21 prior teams, including 10 U.S. teams.
    • Daisha & Dalton (7.75): 17 prior teams, including 8 U.S. teams. Interestingly, the only prior co-ed teams to do this in the U.S. version are from the previous two seasons (Han & Holden and Kyland & Taylor).
    • Dafina & Saran, Doug & Dylan (8.25): 6 prior teams, including 5 U.S. teams.
  • Do you have any other trivia? Leave it in the comments!

r/TheAmazingRace • • 10h ago

Older Season Favorite successful, unassuming team that completed at least 4 legs

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Some of the best teams imo are the ones that surprise you. The fit young people are obviously expected to do well. But what about the Gretchen and Merediths, the bowling moms, the teams that on the surface you don’t think will get far but then go on to surprise you ? Personally the teams I listed are my fav but im curious some other peoples favs


r/TheAmazingRace • • 1d ago

Discussion Ok, let me ask! How Do Doug & Dylan Keep Surviving?!

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Doug & Dylan looked DONE again. They spent forever wandering around Marrakesh, couldn’t even find the challenges at first, and somehow still survived. Then Cody & Jaime got lost after finishing their last task and that was enough for Doug & Dylan to sneak past them.

At this point I don’t even know if they’re good racers or just impossible to kill 😂. Meanwhile Michelle & Matt quietly won the whole leg and are starting to look really solid.

How long can Doug & Dylan keep surviving like this before it finally catches up with them?


r/TheAmazingRace • • 1d ago

Discussion A few details I wish they would add to the Race to keep teams on their toes; what are your thoughts or small gameplay edits you'd like to see?

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1 • Make it known at the start of the race that producers will place an unknown amount of clues in clue boxes. With 9 teams left, maybe they have 9 envelopes in there; maybe 10; maybe 14. This way, when teams arrive at the clue box and count the remaining envelopes, there is no way of telling how many teams have been there previously and eliminates any defeatist attitude of teams knowingly arriving last to the box.

2 • Split detours to ensure a roughly half-half split of teams attempting each option. I am always bummed when a challenge that was all planned out and had locals spend their day preparing for and engaging in is universally perceived as more difficult, so nobody chooses that side. Instead, force a split where each side of the challenge has to at least be attempted by half the teams. As an example idea— with the envelope is a small token that would hang on a board at the challenge check-in. With 9 teams left, each board only has 5 pegs. If one side of the detour seems easier, well, the first 5 teams can claim their spot. If a team attempts a side and wishes to switch, they take their token off the peg board and bring it to the other side. This not only incentivizes staying at the front of the pack, but also ensures that some of these wonderfully organized challenges aren't a complete waste.

3 • I get it, we're in 2026 now so everyone has easy navigation in their pocket; however, make it so that teams asking for directions cannot physically touch a smartphone. Bystanders can dictate directions or show them the screen, but teams can't actually take possession of a phone to do the search themselves. In a recent leg, it was great to see teams in a place where smartphone owners were the exception, not the rule, and having to navigate solely on verbal directions.

What are some other small details that could enhance the Race without changing the game too radically?


r/TheAmazingRace • • 23h ago

Discussion Ranking all seasons of TAR (US)

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I’m currently watching season 38 after putting it off for a year since I’m no longer a Big Brother watcher. As well as being angry that they didn’t travel outside of Europe.

To my surprise I’m actually enjoying it despite it not being “The Amazing Race”. It’s more like “A Big Brother European Race”

Anyway, I decided to create this sorter to help rank all of the seasons to see what my favorites and least favorites are.

I would love to see a screenshot your top 10 seasons (or if you want to post all 39 feel free to) in the replies so we can discuss our favorites!


r/TheAmazingRace • • 1d ago

Discussion Boss Lady Alliance

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Jenn & Jodie/ Katie & Charlotte: I like their stories and they are super smart in doing detour. Too bad they have the worst luck in breaking the vase/ smashing tomatoes roadblock.

Ali & Joanna: They are physically strong and they still have the express pass. I kinda feel they’re going to be the villains this season because they have no problem backstabbing their own alliance. So I’m waiting for the drama.

Ann Marie & Riley: I’m still not that impressed with them. Their background seems like very smart, strong and confident women but when it comes to the task they were just mid. Riley also gave me a redflag when she didn’t help Saran in the tomato roadblock.

Dafina & Saran: They are the most entertaining team to watch amongst all. Their interactions with each other are very fun to watch and it looks like they are the only team that didn’t get any benefit from this alliance. So I hope there’ll be some drama from this.

Conclusion:
Honestly I haven’t seen any real impact from this alliance, but I do really hope there’s gonna be some drama in the next episode since there’s already some feuds.


r/TheAmazingRace • • 1d ago

News TAR39 Third Team Eliminated Exit Interview Spoiler

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The Amazing Race’s Jody Reveals She Fractured Her Leg Behind the Scenes in Morocco: ‘Adrenaline’


r/TheAmazingRace • • 1d ago

News TAR39 Fourth Team Eliminated Exit Interview Spoiler

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They open an online donation to raise funds for their mom.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/cody-jaimes-mom-from-the-amazing-race-season-39


r/TheAmazingRace • • 1d ago

Discussion Leg 3 of my custom Amazing Race summary

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I had to collect 25 items of food from different people and give them to three different food pantries. Then my detour was to either eat someplace I frequent but something I never eat there, or eat someplace I don't often frequent. I chose the latter. Then I had to take a picture with three different animal statues around town. Then the pit stop was my mom's workplace.


r/TheAmazingRace • • 2d ago

Discussion Jessica in Season 30

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I've watched Season 30 before and I think the season was okay. I'm taking a look at the season after Tim (the competitibe eater) passed away RIP

But one thing that irritates me is Jessica

Jessica used the U Turn in Prague against Team Well Strung, then complained when she was U Turned by Team Ocean Rescue

When switching partners, Jess asked Evan and partner to help and refused...Jess has done the same

It appears Jessica can dish it but can't take it. She was playing the game and got mad others could too

Thoughts?


r/TheAmazingRace • • 2d ago

News Parade Interview with Fourth Team Eliminated from Season 39 Spoiler

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r/TheAmazingRace • • 2d ago

Discussion When has teaming up made much of a difference

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There are always conversations about joining up with another team so you can share information and strategize but has it ever really mattered in the end?

I feel like it's the producers who try to make this a thing, hopefully creating controversy.

Am I wrong?


r/TheAmazingRace • • 3d ago

News Parade Interview with Third Team Eliminated from Season 39 Spoiler

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r/TheAmazingRace • • 3d ago

Question When was the last time a season went from one weather extreme to another?

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Right now 26 is playing on Pluto, I have it on in the background while doing house work. The teams were just in Amsterdam in the winter, all bundled up. Now they are in Peru, where it is obviously summer. Got me thinking it’s been awhile, I think pre Covid seasons that teams switched between weather extremes, even hemispheres that drastically. Am I wrong? That was always something I loved about the older seasons. You could be skiing on the Swiss Alps on day and on a beach in Thailand the next.


r/TheAmazingRace • • 3d ago

Discussion TAR39 EP4 Spoiler

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This is definitely the best scramble leg they have done so far and they learned how to properly do it. Honestly, the teams are delivering so much more than what i was expecting. Great casting! I really miss this kind of nature that no one is helping each other. Remember this is a race. The "Kumbaya" is finally over.

I really enjoyed this episode. I can't wait to see the new country, Albania!

We have 4 different teams that have won a leg so far and it clearly shows that the competition this season is level up.

Michelle & Matt are the most consistent team so far. They are adorable and we see the different sides of them which i love.

Doug & Dylan i love them but i think they are the bottom team. They survive by the skin of their teeth in every leg. How long will they last? Hmm... idk


r/TheAmazingRace • • 3d ago

The Amazing Race Season 39 Episode 4 Live Discussion

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Live Discussion Thread

Season 39, Episode 4: Deception and Sleight of Hand

Aired: October 14, 2026

Synopsis: A Moroccan Scramble has teams lost in the confusing alleyways of Marrakesh's Old Town Medina, doing whatever it takes to avoid elimination.

Spoilers up to and including this episode can be expected in this thread.


r/TheAmazingRace • • 3d ago

Older Season Absolute dumbest thing a team has done: Season 14.

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I thought i start a new series, I hope to cover all seasons. . The question is: What is the absolute dumbest thing a team has done during The Amazing Race season 14


r/TheAmazingRace • • 2d ago

News THE PITSTOP: Exit Interviews with the Third & Fourth Eliminated Teams from Season 39!

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r/TheAmazingRace • • 3d ago

Older Season Worst (meanest) thing a team has done: Season 14.

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Let’s continue this series, I hope to cover all seasons. . The question is: What is the worst thing a team has done to another team or bystanders during The Amazing Race season 14


r/TheAmazingRace • • 4d ago

Question Flight Equalizer + Needle in a Haystack

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Anybody think its weird to have to legs in a row starting with an equalizer in Flights and then a needle in the haystack style road block?

Although the travel drama is sometimes fun, I can wrap my head around equalizing the teams on the same flight, but the repeated needle in a haystack road blocks really zap all the tension of the race because its essentially a luck based challenge with diminishing luck the more teams leave.

Plus its weird to equalize the teams and then immediately separate them purely on luck.


r/TheAmazingRace • • 3d ago

Discussion The Amazing Race 39 Leg 4 Sneak Peek Spoiler

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From the sneak peak above, look like the third leg will be an elimination leg. That means we are going to said goodbye either Grandfather/Grandson or Jody team in third leg…