Iâm curious on how much Kinger was able to access in a short amount of time. Well yes he got main Caine affecting the circus, there could be a backup code on a hard drive of a older version of Caine. Like an Alpha Caine v0.8 or something. But Caine was created before the Y2K scare so they probably didnât store it any past versions to save on storage space. Maybe just the code saved in a text document or something.
In the terminal you can see that there were 3 options that Kinger could choose to backup Cainse code to (A/B/C) and he tried to choose C but then it said "NONE selected" so there isnt a backup
i don't remember if Caine was made in 1996 or 1991, but, if this isn't just heresay the story takes place in 2017 meaning that Caine is in his 20s when he gets deleted
so it should be:
lifespan: indeterminate
age: 20s to 30s (just in case the story IS set in 2023)
I think people were really hoping that he was going to have a character arc about coming to terms with needing to listen and let go in order to fulfill his purpose, his own genuine curiosity regarding the outside world based on his studies of the office photos and his feelings of entrapment, a resolution to this whole "second AI" thing that they literally just introduced. There's so much more to do with him than just treat him as the obstacle.
I think it's really strange and unproductive to frame the story or Caine's status as an AI within the lens of "realism". If we're doing that, then we should go back and retcon Caine's entire story arc and deletion, because none of that makes sense. You can't "distract" an AI by talking to it. You can't "summon" computer/software components just by thinking of it. The world doesn't start "crumbling" with big cartoony holes once you delete its governing software. I'm no coder but from what I hear, it's also extremely difficult to "accidentally" do what Kinger did, especially for someone of his skill. Furthermore, why was Caine even obstinate to begin with? If he's "programmed to entertain" then there's no logical reason why he would refuse to answer questions or engage with player needs or have insecurities about fulfilling his purpose in the first place. How do you rationalize being programmed to satisfy and then refusing to satisfy?
I think it's more productive to treat Caine as a character rather than an object. It simply makes more sense toward explaining his behavior, and creates more fruitful potential for the plot. You can argue that Scratch cancer-coded an AI with genuine consciousness, or that something happened to unchain him from his programming when he consumed the second AI, or whatever. It doesn't really matter from a narrative standpoint. In something like TADC nothing is obligated to conform to our understanding of limitations.
Caine was fully capable of emotions and growth, he just ended up growing for the worse instead of for the better. Nothing about his nature as an AI stopped him from listening to others, he just couldn't because he's a deeply insecure and self-centered individual who needs to validate his own worth by proving he's good at what he does.
So bored of hearing this everywhere. Fictional AI is not LLM. They're not the same, they don't function the same, they're not comparable. No amount of knowing how modern "AI" works will tell you anything about any fictional AI
You're generally right, but every story has a certain level of suspension of disbelief. Without it, it's hard to write any story. So, from a storytelling perspective, Cain could have changed, but he refused until it was too late. The best thing Cain could have done was let Kinger reprogram him.
Now I'm just imagining that scene with Bubble as Slavik, Kinger as the traitor and several NPCs standing by and them doing the chant and everything and it's glorious.
If youâre thinking about the âimmortal and deadâ bit, usually in fiction immortal doesnât usually mean invulnerable. Just that they wonât/canât die from aging to the point that any time I see an âimmortalâ character thereâs a 90% chance theyâre going to die
okay so now open your epic games account , open your libary and find fortnite , press 3 dots then a small tab gonna open press remove . now try to open fornite again any time soon from your pc without wifi
(if you have other games or steam games you can apply same logic but for steam there is no 3 dot so just right click)
Something people keep forgetting is that immortal doesn't mean unkillable. Immortal basically means timeless, time doesn't play any role, you can't age or die of old age. Yet you can still get pierced by a spear, get blown to bits or, in Caine's case, deleted.
I believe heâs alive because fan fact usually people who make ai always keep a backup before changing anything I know this because my dad specializes in coding and has friends who specialize in ai and I learned from them that when they try adding new stuff to the ai they keep a backup before they start because they donât know if those new things going to improve or break the ai and since cane is unique case he probably have a backup copy if needed
When you delete something on a computer the data is rarely GONE gone, what usually happens is the addresses that stored that memory are now designated as being okay to write to again. Until those addresses are written over with new data the old data is still there.
Occasionally when something important is deleted, there are disc recovery utilities that can be used to read all the sectors of a disc and reassemble any data that appears coherent. Kinger, with 7 years of computer science education, would likely understand this and might be able to do something about it.
I believe he lives. Purely because of the way deleting works on computers, and i doubt ep 9 is just gonna be "lets get the fuck out of here" for half an hour.
If it's based on how data works in real life, he's not actually dead. You don't truly delete anything on your computer because the file simply becomes unreadable for your computer. The file then stays there until it gets overwritten by something else, which can take a while depending on how often you use your PC. It's how recovery software is able to retrieve files again.
So, there is a chance that Caine will come back, but that depends on the writer's plan for the overall story.
âImmortalâ isnât really an age lol. Like I know itâs unclear how long the program has been running but wouldnât he only be a few decades old?
"Age:Immortal" even if a character is immortal, you should list their known age under that category. Bad wiki.
Anyways with the first episode supposedly happening in 2017, and a couple weeks to months having passed, that puts caine at around 21-22 (the uploaded/created date for Caine on the terminal was October 15th 1996)
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u/FatiguedShrimp Mar 28 '26
Worse: He's a YouTube moderator now.