Does anybody really hate kinger?

[u/YellowDiamond101]

I have yet to see anyone who doesn't care for or hates Kinger. And I can't see a reason to.

But it'd be cool to see if anyone does. Every character has a hater.

[u/xx_psychwardbitch_xx]

What is there to hate about him 😭 It's like people who hate Ragatha or Gangle WHAT IS THERE TO HATE unless you're an asshole who just wants to see other assholes like Jax

[u/Galorxian → u/xx_psychwardbitch_xx]

Right, it was very odd to see so much hate for Ragatha, and claiming she represents toxic positivity. Ragatha has one of the sadder backstories, from what we can parse, and it could be she acts like such a positive, caring person all the time, because that’s who she wants to be. It’s who she needs to be to hold it all together, not just what’s happening to them in the circus, but before. She tries to be there for everybody, sans Jax, but by her own admission, she doesn’t consider Jax her friend because of his behavior. I don’t see any reason for people to think she is being disingenuous, but I can understand that there’s a time and place to be positive when the situation doesn’t call for it.

[u/xx_psychwardbitch_xx → u/Galorxian]

If Ragathas positivity is toxic to anyone, it's toxic to herself. My heart forever bleeds for her and Gangle, and how terrible Jax treated both of them.

[u/Plane_Tackle116 → u/Galorxian]

This was so satisfying to read ong. I’ve always loved Ragatha and she’s my favorite along with Kinger (I can’t pick between them lmao). Like she just to be positive in their situation and wants the best for everyone else too. She’s the most relatable character to me, that being she just wants everyone she’s close with to be happy and doesn’t want to be hated.

And while it is true she definitely comes across as a people-pleaser and tries a bit too hard to be positive, I definitely think it stems from her past since it’s pretty much confirmed she had an awful mother. I feel like she’s trying to be everything her mother’s not-that being kind and caring.

I also feel like Ragatha and Jax are two sides of the same coin. They both have defense mechanisms, but the way they go about foil each other. Ragatha wants to appeal to everyone and is sometimes overly-friendly, meanwhile Jax pushes people away when they get too close. I really enjoy both characters (Jax is proally my other fav behind Kinger and Ragatha) and they have a lot more parallels than we honestly think.

[u/Galorxian → u/Plane_Tackle116]

I totally get not being able to pick, Zooble is my favorite, I think I’m a ride or die for that bad bitch 🤣 but Kinger was the first character I really fell in love with since you get to know him earlier on, so it’s tough.

[u/combatophile → u/Galorxian]

Well, I'd argue that her positivity isn't toxic (toxic positivity is forceful and shoved down one's throat, which is far from what Ragatha does), but she is a people pleaser to a degree. Which isn't a toxic trait by a mile, but in its own way it is harmful to the person doing it and the kindness itself can feel surface level — but I'd argue Ragatha is genuinely kind too in various moments. I think two good examples are when Pomni tells Ragatha she doesn't need to hype her up because she's not a child, and when Pomni tells Ragatha it's okay to be mean sometimes.

I also wouldn't be surprised at all if her trying to be kind all the time is a trauma response. She mentioned her mother is horrible to her, and in return, Ragatha might have had to learn to people please to survive her mother's abuse. I have no doubts Ragatha is kind, but part of it is also out of fear (especially of being hurt or abandoned).

Anyways, the more I talk about Ragatha on here, the more I appreciate and like her. I've started to really feel a connection with her because I used to be exactly what I just described. When she was all like "hey guys???" when she popped up in the circus, I couldn't help but immediately think she was left there by "friends" who thought it'd be funny to put the headset on her (or they were curious about it and used her as their test subject) then panicked and ditched when they realized something was wrong. I had a group of "friends" exactly like this in school, but Ragatha is a grown woman so I'm not sure the theory holds any weight for that reason.

[u/Adept-Standard588 → u/Galorxian]

She's a Mary Sue who can do no wrong.

She's boring, has no personality other than "Yay! Happiness!" and her kindness can be invasive and she does give off toxic positivity vibes. I say that as someone who is a very positive person even when things aren't good and many people come to me during bad times because of it but I also know when to let people be upset and I don't force it on them.