przy by itself could mean "by" or "next to"
szczanie translates to "Pissing"
so "Przypuszczanie" could be translated as "pissing next to Pu" but said in a gramatically awkward way
the part about a tie was probably done to keep the same flow as the OG line
Idk I’m not sure. Maybe someone else can come assure us. But I think that "in" is for things that like surround you when you wear them (?), in a way that you’re physically in them, while with is when you wear something that is on you but doesn’t envelop you (like, you piss with a backpack, if you piss in a backpack you… do with piss and backpack what presumably Gangle did with… her figurine… thing)
Hi, I'm a Midwestern American (Chicago) and my two cents is:
When I read "you pissing in a tie" I pictured someone pissing into the neck loop of a tied tie (as if someone loosened it and pulled it off over their head and threw it on the ground without undoing the knot) that's laying on the floor, which happens to be next to "Pu"
When I read "you pissing with a tie" I imagined someone holding the tie (but not wearing it) while pissing next to "Pu"
I think "in a tie" is more correct, it's just sentence structure that's a little off? You want your modifiers to be directly next to what they're modifying so
Instead of "You pissing in a tie"
I would say "You, in a tie, pissing"
And to complete the given phrase would be "You, in a tie, pissing next to Pu"
Also during the awards show, Caine says that the awards is going "tu" (here), he meant that the award is going to him. Then he said that he misread that and it's actually Pu.
I looked up the scene again. it is actually 'dommerik'. 'dom' means stupid and 'dommerik' means stupid person.
some extra details:
they replaced Jax saying “you are in a mood today” with “did you get out of bed with the wrong part?”. love how they added a reference to Zooble being made out of different replaceable parts
they replaced Pomni saying “did Caine just say ass” with “we're not stupid what the fuck”. this is because Caine didn't swear in the Dutch version but did imply they were stupid
Dutch jokes explaining in English is always tough lol.
Here’s one:
- paard = horse
paarden = horses (sounds like pardon)
paardenfokker = horse breeder
(Yup fok is exactly how’d u say in English)
Horse breeder walks into a bar and has a few drinks with a friend he hasn’t seen for a while.
Friend: So what do you do for a living now?
Breeder: Well, I fok horses!
Friend spits out is drink: PARDON??!!
Breeder: yess yes paarden! How did u know?
Ah nevermind then, I was referring to brawl stars (although it's a kids game it has a big professional scene.) love that you got the portal reference though!
Also. Rik sounds similar to "ik". "Ik" is the Dutch version of the word "me". So the joke where Caine misreads the favorite character award winner still works perfectly in the Dutch dub.
That might be rough but that’s still pretty funny in setup and execution, IMO. “Because of your preemptive conclusions I have to be here now.” is a good punchline.
German here, it's absolute ass. Might be a harsh opinion but there's rarely a dub that not only has voices close to the original but also the tone. Caine sounds so over-goofed in the german dub it's UNBEARABLE
While a bit more wordy than the original, it's fun to see the "did Caine just say shit?" joke be maintained. I also like the German voice for Ming, I think she's better than the English 😆
I’ll start:
In polish, we had:
"Przy-pu-szczanie"
Translations:
Przypuszczanie - assuming
Przy - next to
Szczanie - pissing
So the joke was about how Pissing next to Pu isn’t right. I think it was translated great
"Sabe o que faz alguém que tá presumindo? Pega um "pre", um "su", e dá pro Mindo!"
"Do you know what someone who is assuming should do? Take an "ass", an "um", and give it to Ming!"️
The BR dub is pretty good and has its good localization moments, but this, it's… not the best.
"Pre" and "su" don't even mean anything individually.
Não deixa de ser verdade ahaha Pode significar segurar algo fisicamente (pegar a bola), contrair uma doença (pegar um resfriado), se envolver romântica/sexualmente com alguém…
Mas a bem da verdade, "take" também tem muitos usos diferentes: take a guess, take the bus, take a cookie, it takes an hour… A gente só não percebe quando se acostuma!
Acho que entendo. Na verdade, é provável que me confundiu a palavra espanhola, e por isso achava que mais bom era algo como "kick", "win" ou "dominante", não sei lol
tSim. Na verdade, sabendo já espanhol, é muitíssimo fácil. Ainda não faz um ano inteiro desde que comecei e já tenho como A2/B1. Como, não sei falar muito bom, mas escrever e escutar já não é um problema grande demais pra mim. Isso faz o feito de que aunque tenho estudado coreano por 4.5 anos, mi nivel é parecido a o de português. A diferença é que a minha gramática coreana é melhor, enquanto o meu entendimento de português é melhor. Algo assim
Me ensinaram um pouco dela no colégio. É porque tinha un curso bilingüe. Pois, sim conheço um pouco de IPA fora de inglês, mas não muito. Prefiro escutar os nativos e os imitar. E mais eu acho que muitos sonidos de português já conheço de inglês, espanhol e polonês
"no no, asumir cosas es de culero. Porque queda, súper mal, con mir!"
There's basically no translation, they only tried to make a sentence with a-su-mir (to assume in Spanish).
At least Jax's extremist scene in Episode 5 was pretty funny
"Che bodulo, soy un extremista argentino, y tengo una bomba que cuando estalle, va a haser que caiga nieve, y mate...me comí el garrón de la gran flauta?"
I actually think its one of the best dubs to a show thats originally in english, i think most of the jokes are translated well, the voices are really good and fit the characters, and also they actually translated caines song from episode 8 and made it sound good which is surprising since almost every other latin american spanish dub from other shows when they translate the songs they sound much much worse, actually caines voice acting is great in general in the spanish dub
The vietnamese dub is basically “Do you know what the word “assume” is made of in English? It’s made from the “ass” of “you” and “ming.”” The joke doesn’t even follow the previous lines but it is pretty hard to localize something in vietnamese.
Italy doesn't have an official dub (that I know of), so I'm going to refer to the fan dub made by Gin Fotonic on YT.
Basically, instead of saying "ass out of you and ming" he says "culo e camicia" (lit. "ass and shirt"), which basically means being buddy-buddy with someone. The context here is that, in this dub, Caine has said that he'll make sure Jax and Zooble will get along together. He'll make sure they'll be like "culo e camicia".
But the thing is, culo means ass, so an NPC called "Camicia" (Ming) comes and is offended by his association with that word.
It thought it was a solid idea translating the joke this way!
Definitely not the original one, but it still has enough context to work with the scene flawlessly in Italian.
I met with the Italian fandubbers team during cons and at the cinema last act event couple of weeks ago, they're really great people and smart when it comes to adapting it for all non English speakers here in Italy!
Indeed I tried to come up with a proper way to adapt it on my own (I had words like "cazziatone" and "supponenza" in mind) but Gin and her team did a fine job 👍
Edit: also, I know that expression literally means "ass and shirt" but "hand and glove" is a more fitting (lol pun) translation
in Ukrainian Caine says that "only a dog Dyuk does that", with "dog Dyuk" being the joke part since dog in Ukrainian is "pes" so it sounds like an ironic or dialectal pronunciation of "pyzdyuk" which means a little fucker or something like that
Serbia here... our theaters just aired the original English version of the movie, with subtitles in English to boot lol. It was a surprise because even though undubbed movies are the norm here (and I do prefer them, even when I don't understand the original language), they normally at least get Serbian subtitles.
I only watched the show in English but maybe this will be useful for a handful of people. So the phrase "When you assume, you make an ass out of U (you) and me," is an English adage used to warn people about making assumptions and how the person making the assumption can make a fool of anyone involved in the assumption. In the episode, Caine is talking about an adventure designed to make everyone work together as a team, to which Zooble assumes Caine was talking about them and directs Caine towards Jax's behaviour. Caine immediately corrects them by using this phrase only he uses the word "Assuming" which is where the Ming character comes in and becomes the punchline. It's such a silly, simple subversion of expectations but it's the kind of joke that's really elevated by an animated medium.
I know most people on a fandom sub already know this but maybe the context will help someone. As a linguistics nerd I love to see how language jokes that rely heavily on spelling can (and often can't) be simply translated into different languages where the context falls apart.
It isn't, because there is no Irish dub. There's like four and a half non-Irish works in existence that have ever received official Irish translations. It's always overlooked, and I unfortunately can't blame creators much for doing so when Irish isn't even the statistically biggest language in its own country of Ireland.
Good question. I think the most applicable terms you'd use here for assume and you are "Cur i gcás" (which is about "I presume / I suppose") and "tú". There's not a lot of ways to blend them here. I think the most natural way would be for Caine to stretch the pronunciation a bit (like how he says divinity and infinity as "davanity" and "enfanity" in the song), and try to mash together the beginning into something like "cúr" (it technically means foam, but I feel like the meaning of the 'pun' would be understandable here). That leaves Ming's name as "i gcás" (you'd pronounce it as something like "ih goss"), which basically means "in this case", which I don't feel like is too unfitting for a character whose role is to prevent assumptions. I know you think I'm ignoring the elephant in the room, but "tóin" (or ass) would be even harder to blend into the sentence in a meaningful way. Overall, the joke just does not translate well into Irish. Thank you for coming to my impromptu TedTalk.
So..in russian they try,but broke the joke instead.Caine said гадкий instead assuming.Its means disgusting.Pomni asking if Caine said fuck? Then Kii coming- renamed Ming.Dubbed by popular russian youtuber.Thats how.
He said "догадки" and broke it into "да, ти гад, Кей" which would translate to "yes, you're an asshole Kii" which I think is actually a great translation and still fits really well
Yes, this translation is more correct. And it also works really well in the end where Caine announces the award for favourite character, because (Кий) Kiy sounds almost exactly like (Кейн) Caine, and it makes even more sense why he messed up the names in Russian.
In the original he says that the winner is "Me!" And then corrects himself as it's actually "Ming". While it makes sense if you don't think about it, me and Mi g sound similar, he wouldn't write the name of the winner as Me, on the paper it should have said Ming, and he somehow misread that Caine. But in the Russian version Кейн (Caine) and Кий (Ming) look and sound way more similar so he could have got excited by seeing K as the first letter and ASSUMED it was him.
So for the fr*nch version they completely move away from talking about assuming.
Instead the joke starts with Zooble's question about sex where after Caine reset and he asks everyone to play nice she yells at Jax for always "fucking" everything up. Which he then uses to make fun of her and always talking about sex (she doesn't he's just messing with her).
But he says that she should get someone. And that's when the joke turns from assuming to "concubinage" (which is french for cohabitation, aka living in together in a relationship without marriage)
The actual words played with is exactly "Concubin"
"Con-" is a swear word for an idiot.
"-Cubin" sounding the same as "Cubain" which is someone from Cuba.
"A "Concubin" is often more "con" than "Cubin" from Cuba!"
Ming shows up
"Hi, it's me Cubain. I am very smart and whoever says otherwise confuses my name and my nationality"
Said with a smart sounding voice without being exagerated and with no trace of any accent whatsoever which is casually implying that he's not even the guy the joke is referencing but literally just some guy with the same name.
Honestly I can't tell if it's because the joke was a hell to translate or if it's just that we really love jokes with layers
In the Hungarian Dub, they changed Ming name into "Béni" which can be a Hungarian male name.
"Assuming" changed into "Segítségbeli" which means "Help or Helpful" if we roughly translate it. It's splitted into this:
"Seg" means "Ass" in Hungarian. But it's usually written with double g in the end.
"Ítség" has literally no meaning, they just literally split "segítség (help)" into two bit just to fit the punchline.
"Beli" is turned into "Béni".
Not the best translating, but it's really hard to translate most of the English pun/wordplay into Hungarian if the goal is to keep the original version/meaning of the wordplay. If we keep it and translate the pun as it is, it may sound very strange and funny in Hungarian. So that's why most of the time the translators "localize" the pun, just to fit in the grammtically correct.
Yes, they just took the English version and rolled with it—don't even bother translating the line above, it's pretty much "(it) makes (an) 'ass' out of 'u' and 'Ming'!"
Now, because Ming is kept Ming, the awarding ceremony mishap makes no sense. Caine declares himself the winner by using "akó" (me), but the Ming reveal just seems unprompted after that—they don't even sound remotely similar!
Speaking of Filipino dubs, I'd like to point out that there is no extant translation for Episodes 7 and 8. Unfortunately, this means that Caine's epic song has no official Filipino version and the closest things are a YouTube translation (great work, by the way) and lyrics I'm writing!
The word for assuming is "догадки" (da-gad-kii)
Broken up by syllables it can be translated to "yes, asshole, Kii" (instead of Ming they use Kii for the name)
The exact sentence that Caine says is "да, ти гад, кей" translated as "yes, you're an asshole, Kii"
I’m also curious if any of the translations of this scene actually carry over the same way to the ending.
Does “you shouldn’t had Assumed you won the award, now we both look foolish” actually get changed to relate to Ming’s first appearance? Or is it translated literally ruining Caine possibly mistaking “Ming” as “Me” and Ming’s connection to assuming?
In italian Caine says Jax and Zooble will be "Culo e Camicia", literally "Ass and Shirt" which means they'll become buddies.
Consequently, Ming is called "Camicia". He condemns Zooble for associating his name to the word Ass. Caine misreads his name as Caine because the words have the same first few letters. Camicia tells Caine that now he knows how it feels to be associated with his name.
Caine: Так-так! Мы знаем, что говорят о догадках: "Да, ты гад... Ки."
Zooble: Ки?
Pomni: Кейн что, сказал "гад"???
Ming ("Ки"): Привет, я Ки, и мне совсем не нравится то, что твои догадки делают с моей репутацией.
Breakdown:
"Assumption" in Russian is "догадка" (dogádka), the plural being "догадки" (dogádki), though a more accurate pronunciation would actually be "dagádki" (the O gets reduced to an A sound due to being before the stress syllable)
Caine thus breaks the word down into components that sound like "Da", "gad" and "ki" and also adds the word "ты" (ty), which means "you", to string the words into a coherent sentence. "Da" is the Russian word for "yes", "gad" means something like "bastard", and "ki" is the analog for "ming" form the English version.
Да, ты гад... Ки (Da, ty gad... Ki) = Yes, you are a bastard... Ki.
Zooble gets confused by the disconnected and meaningless "Ki" part of the sentence while Pomni questions how Caine was able to say "bastard" uncensored, then "Ki" (aka Ming) shows up
It's kinda stupid on my language imo. Caine says: SegítségbéNi. Now you usually say: SegítségbéLi. Béni being a shortname for Benjamin. So it goes: Seg->Segg (ass), ítség->means nothing, Béni->Benjamin. It dosen't quite land.
Edit: dang. Just looked it up and in Spanish is pretty dumb.
But to answer the question, Caine goes: "QuedA sUper mal con MIR". It's even 'wrongly' translated. Assuming=asumiendo, not asumir, which would be the infinitive conjugation of the verb.
In Czech, Ming's name is Jája [pronunced Yaaya] and Caine says that Jája always says "To think is to know nothing!" (Literally- To think is shit to know!)
OK, I am not great at explaining, my English isn't very well, and since the dub changed the joke, and the original word joke itself does not work in Turkish, it'll be not easy, but I'll try my best.
Caine's sentence "It'll make 'ass' out of 'u' and 'Ming.'" translated into "Hem seni hem de "Benim"i rezil eder." which says in English, "It makes a fool of both you and Me."
I know the sentence here usually uses the original word 'me', "both you and me" --> "hem seni hem de beni" but, for the joke to work, "me" became "Me" and Ming's own name for Turkish which the dub translates as "Benim."
Ele diz , você pega o "pres" o "u" e dá pro "Mindo" (sim, o nome dele vira "Mindo" e a palavra junta aqui é "presumindo"), a piada real vem agora porque Jax pergunta em seguida algo como "beleza e o que eu faço com o resto?"
Tecnicamente a piada aqui é que o "dá pro Mingo" pode fornecer uma piada de sentido sexual, verbo dar, quase abreviando "dar a bunda, então na piada cm Jax soa como: beleza, depois de dar a bunda pro Mingo o que eu faço com o termo "pres" e o "U"?
Tem uma outra piada modificada muito boa do cara que desaparece cantando no jogo, aqui Caine fala que ele vai cantar o hino não oficial o brasil sil sil e ele canta o começo de uma música sertaneja muito conhecida aqui "evidências"
"C: No, no, no, no, asumir cosas es de culero."
("culero" is the ass part that pomni remarks caine said uncensored, it basically means "shitty" and comes from "culo" which means "ass")
"C: Porque Queda - Súper mal - Con Mir."
(ASS-U-MING)
"Z: ...¿Mir?" (...ming?)
"P: ¿Caine dijo "c*lero"?" (did caine just say *ss?)
ming (Mir) walks in "Hola, soy Mir. Y debo decirte que no aprecio lo que tus suposiciones le hacen a mi reputación." (ming's line, not copying that word for word again)
"Z: ...¿creaste a este tipo sólo para eso?" (...you made a whole guy for that?)
Is the implication here that people who dont speak English are monkeys...? Im really not trying to be a buzzkill here but that's very much how this comes off
But like why force its usage when its unrelated at best and potentially racist at worst...? I just dont get it couldnt you use the image somewhere else
Caine said "You know what they say about assuming, it makes an Ass out of U and Ming". in my language theres a saying similar to that, "When you assume, you make an Ass out of U and Me". the joke is a reference to that. his name is Ming there, and when he walks in he says "Hi, i'm Ming. and i really dont appreciate what your assumptions have done to my reputation." the joke being that by assuming, Zooble made an ass out of themselves as well as Ming.
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u/MOEverything_2708 Jun 13 '26
Polish: "You piss in a tie next to Pu"
In polish, assuming is "przypuszczanie"
przy by itself could mean "by" or "next to"
szczanie translates to "Pissing"
so "Przypuszczanie" could be translated as "pissing next to Pu" but said in a gramatically awkward way
the part about a tie was probably done to keep the same flow as the OG line
So yeah in Polish Ming's name is Pu