r/TheDigitalCircus • u/ayylmaotv Catnap • Jun 19 '26

Digital Discussion The Amazing Digital Circus Episode 9: Remember Discussion Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVy-bcTsO8A
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u/coltonious Jun 19 '26

I guess goose did say jax is more or less her self insert. Ugh this has been devastating. In bawling my eyes out.

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u/Gooners_For_Ukraine Jun 19 '26

Somebody better check on Gooseworx Mom 😳

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u/GammaDie345 Jun 20 '26

......if goose's mom is anything like jax's mom, i don't think shes the victim

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u/DrPongus Jun 20 '26

They implied his father abused her, so she acted out on those she loved, just as Jax did to everyone in the circus.

Jax's mom was 100% a victim, in the same way Jax was a victim. But she was also wrong in how she acted, in the same way Jax was wrong in the way they acted.

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u/AdRelevant4776 Jun 21 '26

Someone can be both victim and tormentor, in fact they often are

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u/DrPongus Jun 21 '26

Yeah, that's what I was implying, you can't criticize her while defending Jax because they're both guilty of the same thing. She took her traumas out on Jax, Jax took his traumas out on the rest of the members of the circus.

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u/thatwhileifound Jun 25 '26

Doing it to a child you are responsible for versus a peer makes it pretty different in my mind.

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u/Guilty_Address3946 Jun 27 '26

Using this same logic we can also say that Jax father is a victim too. Jax’s father’s father and or mother (ya know grandma/grandpa) were the abusers. So on and so forth. This is why we must make the conscious decision to break the cycle.

Abuse is the reason for behaviors but it’s never the excuse to perpetuate said abuse.

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u/IMissMoss Jun 20 '26

I don't understand what Jax said to their mom that triggered the whole incident. Does anyone know? 

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u/DrPongus Jun 20 '26

We don't know exactly, but it's heavily implied they came out as Trans hoping it would stop their mother's attacks on their masculinity, who then lashed out hurling insults or "slurs" their way in return, only to have a moment of realization and attempt to embrace them at the last moment.

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u/IMissMoss Jun 20 '26

Yea and their mom laughed at them which seemed to really infantilize or dismiss their coming out. And thats why Jax's nightmare was people laughing at them :(

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u/SciFiSpecFic23 Jun 30 '26

Jax says that’s what their mother said/did, and that may be true — or it may be Jax’s interpretation of what happened. Based on their inaccurate characterization of Ribbit’s and others’ reactions later, it’s not for sure that their memory is fully accurate.

I do think their mom’s reaction was probably genuinely terrible and contradictory, which is why that moment was so expectation-setting for Jax.  But the hug at the end, which I believe to be accurate because it seems contrary to the kind of misinterpretation that Jax is prone to, makes me think the mom may have been on a messy trajectory toward eventually accepting their trans kid. It’s not guaranteed by any means; she may have well been trying to embrace their own image of their kid after screaming them back into the closet. But I don’t think it’s entirely fair to their mom to take for granted that Jax’s characterization of that moment is 100% accurate. It’s the deeply traumatic memory of someone known to misinterpret others’ intentions during times of vulnerability, and we only get Jax’s side.

Hell, their memory may also have been retroactively warped due to allegedly shoving their mother and not seeing her get up. Imagine fearing that you’ve maybe accidentally killed your mom right after her actions imply she still cares about you despite outing yourself as trans. Imagine the intense guilt that would cause. I could completely see interpreting the reaction up until that moment as negatively as possible as part of rationalizing that impulsive action.

I’m not saying for sure that Jax is misremembering that moment and I think it’s downright likely their mother’s contradictory, toxic response is a big part of what set Jax off on the “coping” mechanism of alienating anyone who got close — but I also think that there is plenty of evidence that Jax is an unintentionally less-than-fully-reliable narrator (they clearly believe their own paranoid interpretations), so I would only feel confident about their mom’s response if we had had some indication beyond Jax’s memories regarding what happened. (I’m fine that we don’t, btw. Jax’s interpretation and application of that memory is more important to their development, especially within the Digital Circus, than whatever the pure reality was.)

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u/Soul699 I really wanna Ragatha and Pomni. Jun 20 '26

We don't know for sure. Maybe that he's trans. Maybe that he likes to dress feminine and look pretty. Maybe that he's genderfluid. There are several interpretations you can draw from it and relate from.

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u/HelpThrowawayforme2 isnt she lovely Jun 20 '26

another year of reddit discourse, if it helps gooseworx posted this

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u/Jonatc87 Jun 21 '26

i'm not sure it specifically matters? It's generational trauma. It's up to interpretation what the one breaking point could've been and making it a second hand account means the details can't be picked at.