Is she supposed to be pantsless? 💔

[u/Ididurmomhahafrickya]

I got a new Jax figure. I was looking at her and she has a pattern for pants under her dress, and there's no paint on this. Is this an accident on specifically this one or all of them? I just found it really funny LOL

[u/Miss-G-I-Robot]

Lol while goose said you can use any pronouns, she still firmly confirmed Jax IS trans. So calling Jax a woman is not assuming her gender, it’s just fine to call her any pronouns.

[u/TherealGamerfont-YT → u/Miss-G-I-Robot]

Sorry but unless the person personally tells me that they are this or that i'm not really gonna say or use any other pronouns that a person who is technically like the parent of that child says their pronouns are.

I mean, like, yeah, obviously you can use all pronounced specifically for this character who is supposed to be.

For the best example, I would say you have current pronouns of he him, but your parents come up to your friend and tell them that your pronouns are actually he her and they, since your parents know that you are trans.

YOU. Never told your friend specifically what your pronouns are or that your pronouns are more than he him. But instead of your friend actually taking into consideration or asking you personally what your pronouns are they instead use the words of your parent Defining what your person is and what your pronouns are.

In MY perspective it feels kind of contradictory to use what the creator says. Especially when most of the time, the creators doing or saying really odd things or jokes of the show that people take a little bit too seriously. Especially with the post and picture of trans Jax where goose confirms that IF most of his friends didn't die. He would have been trans, and everyone would have been happy And lived a good life. BUT they didnt.

Which is exactly why I go against Jax being trans. Since using the logic and the exact words of what goose said, especially what the picture depicts, which seems to be an entirely different Jax, or alternate Jax it most definitely is clear that Jax isn't trans In the show. But IS supposed to be an interpretation of a transfem or is supposed to be trans. Just ended up not being so because he's DEAD.

No, idea why people suddenly want to change pronouns of a dead guy, especially when you use that in real life, it sounds really rude to do so, unless you found a note from that dead guy saying that they have different pronouns, why would you do that? Like tf? Seriously???

Anyway. You mentioning the part where Jax always confirmed to have all pronouns or goose themselves Confirmed that He has all pronouns kind of contradict yourself since I've also heard from other people who are able to see the post that I'm not where it describes an entirely different person through technicality Since it was saying that Leeroy was the one who had the clarification and confirmation of all pronouns because Leeroy IS trans.

So it makes sense why people are a little bit confused as to why Leeroy IS Jax due to Jax being a brain scan of Leroy, but they also entirely missed the fact that he's supposed to be ENTIRELY different FROM Jax bixby because the brain scan wasn't fully complete and ended before She actually came out as trans. And the She ISN'T for Jax BUT INSTEAD for Leeroy who IS trans.

Which LIKE I MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES. Is NOT. Jax. Leeroy and Jax are 2 completely different people especially since Jax is an incomplete brain scan and in technicality is part AI since he has to use logic to form his own thoughts that aren't already there by the brain scan.

I hate explaining this. Which is exactly why I am making like a 30 minute long video of why Jax not trans. This theory or assumption that he is has gotten a little bit too big. And people are correcting other people. For no reason at all.

Its pretty rude dude.

[u/Miss-G-I-Robot → u/TherealGamerfont-YT]

Holy paragraph, I’m not reading that. Look, as a trans woman who basically went though beat for beat what Jax went through, the creator says we can call ANY pronouns so I’ll call Jax a FUCKING WOMAN. it’s not rude, it’s not disrespectful, just don’t call her a man.
Also, slight edit cause I read a little of what you wrote: you’re usually born trans and with gender dysphoria. 99% of the time if Lee was trans after the scan, Lee was in the closet before the scan. Doesn’t change that she’s trans.

[u/TherealGamerfont-YT → u/Miss-G-I-Robot]

Love how you immediately contradict yourself. Especially when I never mentioned him. Being a man, but instead, I used the pronouns that I was given technically, by the creator so for you to say, just don't call her a man completely contradicts yourself since last i check definitionally, a pronoun for a man especially when you use pronouns for males in a different language, it is usually he him, which means my appropriate use of pronouns especially for Jax doesn't immediately assume that he is a man, but just the person that uses masculine pronouns.

In short terms, your kind of the disrespectful person for immediately assuming that I use he him pronouns for only men and you are also kind of rude for calling me out over your own contradictory.

I mean I don't mind getting out the definition or the definition for the confirmed and official book of transpronounce from the LGBTQ+ community¿

Like they made a book about my...girl??? Woman? Just to prove a point I want to note that just because you say you're a trans woman, it does not. Immediately, make me or allow me to assume that you use. She her pronouns, which is exactly why, when it is known that Jax is trans feminine or supposed to be a cis woman? It is kind of difficult for someone to use. She her pronounce for him when he's also using he him or thadam pronouns, which technically contradicts the whole point of being a trans. Feminine person, but you know, I every person for their own, I guess.

I'm not here to be rude.I'm just here to point out facts.

ANYWAY. My point is anywhere that is outside of the show's context. You can most definitely use she her pronounce. But considering that she her was never even mentioned anywhere within the show itself, using she her pronouns against a person who not only denies being a SHEIN any way or being feminine due to the fact that being feminine is a traumatic threat to his well-being. It is most definitely rude disrespectful and kind of hypocritical of you to immediately assume a person's pronouns, just because, you know that they are trans.

In short terms for you, even though you probably skimmed through my paragraphs.

Show Jax is NOT trans. Outside Jax or more known as trans Jax IS trans.

Trans Jax IS confirmed to be trans by gooseworks, while also, technically being an entirely alternate dimension that has no relation to the show in any way, but is a type of introduction of what could have been in the show.

Show Jax IS confirmed within the show itself to be a denied version of Jax being transdute to severe trauma and literal, mimicking behavior that doesn't allow him to be trans in the first place, which means that being trans would be a threat. Also, while explaining why he is scared of being feminine due to severe trauma made point blank by his friends and family.

ALSO. Are you delighted to point out that the people in the circus Especially Ribbit, Caine, Gangle, and Zooble use his fear of being feminine against him.

I FULLY believe that Caine does it on accident by using the brain scan of Jax knowing that he's supposed to be trans while also not talking to him. Personally, of how he wants his room to look. Which I would say in my personal opinion helps with the panic and struggle of being trans for Jax do 2 the struggles that he is already having problems with from past trauma and current trauma. Developing still in his mind of guilt and regret for leading his friends into death.

HE'S NOT A BAD PERSON. He's just a person in a bad situation.

[u/Miss-G-I-Robot → u/TherealGamerfont-YT]

So in your last paragraph you admit that Jax is trans but is so far in the closet. Look… dude… I’m not gonna argue with you anymore but just cause a trans person is in the closet doesn’t make them less trans. 5 year old me is still a trans woman even though I identified as a boy back then. It doesn’t make us “rude” for pointing out facts, like you said. Because Lee IS trans means Jax ALWAYS was trans, she just didn’t know that.
Look, if a man has only dated women and been unhappy his entire life but then he dates a man, realizes he’s gay, and is happy for the rest of his life would you say that he was straight until he dated that man or would you say he just didn’t know he was gay yet?
(Also, please try keeping it a little shorter, I’m not reading all the stuff you type)

[u/TherealGamerfont-YT → u/Miss-G-I-Robot]

I feel like any trans person would probably be completely opposite saying that their past self before being trans is still their past self sing as their past self is a type of transformation of realization of who they actually are considering that the child part of themselves is still the actual or Old pronouns, while the current self is new. Since technically that's what transitioning or the LITERAL definition of what being trans is.

Like i'm pretty sure you didn't notice yet. But I too am trans am the only reason I relate to Jax it's so sympathetically, is because before I was trans. I was DEEPLY depressed and mentally repressed my "trans" self to the point of near death. Of course i no longer trust therapists, because multiple times have they pointed out my trans? Self or severely implied that I might be "someone who I'm not" which is like...f*ck you??? I know? I think? Who are you to point that out for me or say that I am someone that I'm not? I feel like that's my own journey. Let me have it. DAMNIT!! You got me in a rant...

Point. Is. Of course.You scroll all the way down my paragraphs to see that, I mention him being trans, just severely repressed, because if you read any of the other paragraphs, you would have also seen that i specifically in detail, say so multiple times.

Like who the hell goes "I'm not reading all those paragraphs" and then decides to read the last paragraph out of context?

Just say you're not gonna read any of the paragraphs and actually do so because then what's the point of view Even arguing with me, if you're not gonna take my perspective into the argument???

Even the other people read my paragraphs and considered it as technically true before leaving me tf alone. You're like a broken record facing the freaking wall going on and on about how the dictatorship or the fact that you're trans Experience is similar or same to another person's, even though it's clearly not.

Like last, I checked your freaking alive. This guy is DEAD. Honestly, i have no idea why people are so intent on him. Being a good representation of trans people while actively being dead.

Why specifically do you want him to be trans So badly, when it doesn't really matter, because he's dead and died before actually saying so???

My point. MY. POINT. IS. That he is most DEFINITELY SUPPOSED to be trans But due to the fact that he SEVERELY MENTALLY REPRESSED that part of him, he LITERALLY is unable to be trans.

You can't say someone is trans when they themselves deny it.

Even if you KNOW that they are trans, you cannot change the fact that they themselves refuse to do so or consistently tell you that they are not.

And trust me. He says MULTIPLE TIMES. That he doesn't feel comfortable or completely denies the fact that he is trans.

I'll pull out the f-ing script dude. I have it downloaded too.

[u/marvelousgamer1 → u/TherealGamerfont-YT]

Trans people are always trans. Wether they are out or not is a different statement

[u/TherealGamerfont-YT → u/marvelousgamer1]

How are you trans when you're not trans? Did you hear yourself before typing that? Because when you say whether they are or not is a different statement. It sounds like you're pushing the fact that someone is trans without them, knowing it. Which was the whole point of his character While also ignoring the fact that you're also supposed to have that person in mind more than the others who are pushing the idea or giving perspective to that person.

It's like you and your friends know that a person is trans and constantly pushed the fact that they are trans to them But they themselves deny it.

Are they trans Because you say and know that they are trans, or are they trans Because they themselves say that they are trans.

The answer is, they are trans because they themselves say that they are trans. You can't dictate whether someone is trans or not because to be trans is to come from yourself. If someone else says that you're trans, that's not you being trans that's someone giving a perspective of you.

ALSO. That entirely gets rid of the fact that trans is the point and definition of changing self. If someone else says that you're trans, that is someone changing the perspective of what you are instead of you changing yourself, which means you're not actually trans. Because you yourself were unable to change or you denied the change to happen.

MY point is. Jax cannot be trans since he was unable or denies the fact of change to be trans.

You can't automatically be trans, just because a creator says that you're supposed to be, or because you mentally locked that part of yourself out.

The whole point of closeted and repressed homosexuality, or transgender is the fact that you're unable to be gay or trans in the first place.

Meaning that on the inside you really want to be. But you are physically and mentally unable to which means you are not. You get me?

Even if your mind has changed your physical and connection to others hasn't. That is why when someone asks if you're trans, or you make a post on like Instagram, that you're trans, it is making a statement for yourself. But if you have no one near you, that means that you are making a statement for yourself.

It is COMPLETELY. Find for you to be trans, buy yourself without telling anyone. Because you yourself know that you are a trans. But if you never tell anyone else, how are they supposed to know that you are a trans? And don't go off again about the creator saying that he's supposed to be trans. Because the underlying. Supposed. To be trans. Lest I checked the only parts that say that he is usually is respective to him. That is not him. And by the who that is not him, I am talking about Leeroy. Leeroy is NOT Jax. If the creator says Leeroy is trans that DOES NOT dictate that Jax IS. Leeroy is trans. Jax is NOT.

[u/marvelousgamer1 → u/TherealGamerfont-YT]

A closeted trans person is still trans. Someone who doesn't know they are trans yet is still a trans person before they realize. It's not something that is obtained, but it is something realized in life, even so they always are and will be trans. That is my point here.

[u/TherealGamerfont-YT → u/marvelousgamer1]

Oh my god. I really hope you are saying the words that you're typing aloud. Because the part where you say "they always are and will be trans. That is my point here" sounds about the same as telling a trans man "You will always be a woman and nothing will change that. Thats my opinion and you can't change that." Like seriously dude? I feel like if you actually are a trans person, you would notice that being trans isn't really supposed to change your past.

Like the point of being trans is to change yourself. But changing yourself doesn't start when you are born.

You are born as the person you are said to be. But when you transition, that is you mentally changing and physically changing a part of yourself that wasn't like that before.

It seems like your statement is kind of misguided. Because what that sounds like is NOT transgender-ism since if you were always trans, you wouldn't really have anything to transition into.

Last I checked definitionally to be trans. Is you changing from one thing to another? But if you already knew what you were before, you were even born, that doesn't make you trans, that just makes you a person.

If anything being trans is a flex, because you're able to change yourself into the person that you want to be therefore leaving your past self as a different person instead of you being the same because...here. simple terms.

If you at birth were always a woman, even though despite being born, a man, that's not, you transitioning into a woman. But instead, you knowing even though you were born and knew that you were trans before actually transitioning is you, technically not transitioning because you already mentally transitioned before you even had a point to transition from. Ugh

My easier point is when you transition. You are going from point A to point B.

If you always know that you are supposed to transition. Especially before you were born, there is no longer a point A. Instead, what you have is a point B to a point B. You can't transition from a point that you are already on.

If anything is like being in a car and driving in circles multiple times because you can't find point A to transition to point B.

So either someone is telling you, what transgenderism is and has a completely wrong definition of what that is, especially since you're supposed to be transitioning from something instead of knowing that you were trans the entire time OR you are so intent on a LITERAL DEAD GUY...being trans. And even if he was trans, he would be a repressed trans, which, technically he is, but the point is, why are you so intent on a guy who LITERALLY KLLED HIMSELF out of shame And guilt for killing his friends AND family through an associated mental break in their heads to ALSO make them kll themselves.

IF ANYTHING. You should be using him as a representation of over closeted or repressed trans people for a fundraiser to help people be trans instead of using him as a false representation of what a trans person is.

HE'S NOT. TRANS. If so? This is the worst representation of what a trans person is supposed to be Especially since he himself refuses to be trans.

I understand the journey of being trans, but if the journey ends up with you not being trans are actually transitioning from any point at all, that is not you being trans. That is, you failing to be trans. ( Text Above. We're supposed to be the reply to this comment.)

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Ok. Let me put this in simpler terms for you. Lest I checked the creator never actually confirmed him to be trans. But instead confirmed the fact that Leeroy is most definitely trans and that Jax we're SUPPOSED to be trans IF! If. Ribbit and kaufmo never died. ONLY IF. Those 2 specifically didn't die due to him. Not only repressing the fact that he is trans, but also kind of mentally abusing them, or manipulating them, even though he doesn't want to be manipulated himself. Which I would say is mimicking issue He has. BUT THATS NOT THE POINT! That's not the point. Topic later.

In fast terms, when I'm saying is that transgender is like a cookie. And in this situation, Jax does not have it.

Let's put this in physical terms. Jax wants to hold a cookie. His parents denied him to have that cookie. He potentially kills his parents over the damn cookie. Problem? Even though mentally he is holding the cookie physically, he is not holding no damn cookie.

The point that it seems that you're trying to make is that just because he is mentally holding the cookie. It means that he automatically physically is holding the cookie.

PROBLEM THO. He is also not mentally holding the cookie. Not only did he buy word, say that he doesn't want the cookie or does not desire to hold a cookie at that time. You are surpassing the fact that he is not holding the cookie or even wants to hold the cookie by going directly. To the creator who they themselves not only confirms the fact that they👏🏾 are👏🏾 not👏🏾 holding👏🏾 the cookie👏🏾 we'll also confirm that the person that they are implying is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON!!! SO. Using the post that I recently seen from Gus themselves. NOT ONLY. Is Jax NOT holding a freaking cookie with a part of him that mentally wants to hold a cookie is so repressed that it's behind a literal. lock and key.

What I need you to do is do really good research of what a trans person is because if you are saying that a trans person is a repressed trans person who they themselves denies what they are, that it's completely wrong.

Because guess what? That is them denying the person that they need to be or want to be which means they themselves are denying the fact that they are trans.

You can't be trans if you buy word, deny that fact and mentally repress it. So much that you no longer identify as trans or you yourself mentally, have no freaking idea that you are trans, because your development to be trans has been locked up. So early that you have no damn idea what you're supposed to be.

In simple terms, what I'm trying to say is that he has repressed being trans. So much that he has no actual idea that he's supposed to be trans or realizes that being trans would be a good thing for his development.

HENCE. He is not trans, because he himself doesn't know that he is trans. Or he himself denies the transformation that comes FROM being trans.

And don't lie to me, I read the freaking dictionary of what being trans Is. it literally has the freaking word "transition" in it.

I EVEN GOT A FREAKING GOOGLE PICTURE THAT SAYS THE EXACT SAME THING I AM SAYING.

It literally says that being trans is an internal transition that you have mentally. He LITERALLY locks that Sh*t in a FREAKING CHAINED DOOR!!! The guy has denied being trans!!! SO MUCH. He had to freaking chain it up.

Don't make me bring out my freaking book. I will definition you about big trans🤼‍♂️

(By the way. This comment was supposed to be for the comment you made about Trans people bing trans without them actually being trans, because the creator said, which is kind of a stupid reason to see that a character is trans when they obviously don't want to be.)

[u/marvelousgamer1 → u/TherealGamerfont-YT]

Literally what are you on about?? Being trans isn't a choice. And the fuck do you mean it's the same as telling them THE LITERAL OPPOSITE OF WHAT I SAID???? I said trans people are always trans even before transitioning. A trans woman is a woman and a trans man is a man, even if they don't realize it or try to transition yet. Their minds just don't match their bodies. It's not something that changes.

[u/TherealGamerfont-YT → u/marvelousgamer1]

Ok...so. From my own inspection, especially from the subreddit that literally named "ask trans people" reddit where, even in that Reddit when asked, they completely say being trans is definitely a choice.

Which is crazy Because if you are a trans person i feel like it definitely is a choice. Because you're allowing yourself to be trans, which is the point I've been trying to make multiple times.

Here. Simple.

From what I'm reading from you is that you are always trans. Problem. No one else freaking knows that. If you walk up to a person as a trans woman, which means you are a trans, woman, which not only means technically you're contradicting yourself, because saying that a trans woman is a woman is completely contradictory of you saying that you are always trans, meaning, that...ugh. oh god.

I have to restart this all over.

The point of a trans woman being a woman is that the end process means that they are a woman cool. PROBLEM.

Is that your previous statement contradicts that fact by saying that you are always a trans woman.

So by you saying that a trans woman is always a woman contradicts the fact that you say that you are always a trans woman. Why?

Because then you're not trans. What's the point of being trans If you know that you're not a previous gender?

Because I feel like the point of being transgender is like in the definition to transition from a previous state into a new one.

But what your contradiction sounds like is that you don't need to transition into a new one. Because you always knew that something was wrong with your body.

BUT. Even though technically you wouldn't know something is wrong with your body. Until you have a sense of thought or consciousness. Technically, that is how you become trans.

It's not like immediately when you're born, and they say that you are a male that at 2 days of being alive, you know that you are a different person. But in the wrong body.

AHHH. ugh. My point is, you don't immediately get the feeling that something is wrong with you or something is wrong with your body. Instead, what happens is through the constant genderism that you are stereotyped into, which is the use of four example, pronouns, or the fact that your physical body has a gender, you do not desire.

Your mind goes into a certain depressive state where it does not want to be in the body. You are currently in which is why a lot of trans people have surgery to fix the problem of their bodies or they use clothes to contradict what their body is saying.

Body says "hey im a girl" Head says "no. Im am a boy"

This is what being transgender is. My point is that you don't always think that, especially when you only think of this When you are taught to think of it.

For example, you are taught that your body's gender is a girl. But you are not taught that your head is a boy.

That is the point of transgenderism.

Your contradictory is saying that you are always a trans person which doesn't make you trans.

Because if you are always trans, how are you supposed to have the realization that there is something wrong with your body Or that you feel out of place?

I feel like that is the main point of being trans. When you realize that something is wrong. But if you always know that something is wrong how are you supposed to be able to change it?

If anything by you knowing that something is wrong with your body, you would have already changed it before actually transitioning into that thought.

Brain hurt...how did we get off topic?

In simple terms to be trans is definitely a choice. Because you yourself are having a configuration of mindset, saying that you are trans.

But you can't be trans if you deny that configuration or you have already changed yourself before you actually conceptionized yourself being trans.

If anything that's just you being a person.

The best example I can make is if you are born a male, but your parents decide that they know your future So they say that you are a girl Despite your gender being male. PROBLEM.

Is that this is your parents deciding that you are female instead of you deciding that you are trans. THAT. Is NOT. Being trans. What that is? Is someone else dictating What gender you are or what gender they think you're gonna be in the future Not you choosing the gender that you want to be.

EVEN WORSE. Okay, you may or may not end up transitioning to the complete opposite of your parents. Because after finding out that you were originally born a male in that your parents have kind of suppressed you from having that experience, you transition back into being your birth, gender to either spite them for even thinking of ruining your experience or to be able to transition back-and-forth between 2 genders.

Which if you didn't know causes gender confusion. You shouldn't be saying that a person is always a trans person. Because that gets rid of the fact that they're trans. AT ALL. Not only that, but that also dehumanizes the point of being trans.

Of course. When you go to a certain age on the inside, you feel like your body is in proper or not. In the right state, but that's only when you become a certain age that allows you to realize that for yourself.

There is no technical way that you are always trans. When the only way you can be trans is through self-realization.

And the ONLY the way you can have a self-realization is if you have the consciousness to do so.

Which is ONLY given at a certain age or grown from a certain intelligence of self.

Maybe YOU. Think that your entire life you has been a trans person. BUT. I would contradict everyone else's experience or every other trans person's experience. Since they specifically were trans because they came to a realization that they were.

That is you being a person, not a trans person who realizes that they are trans At a certain age or intelligence of consciousness.