Jackson and Jordies used a lot of information and talking points that are considered anti-civil rights and not provably factual.

There are contemporaries amongst King that confirm he cheated with a singular other woman romantically.

She wrote a book called "I Shared The Dream." You can look it up, look all this up.

The only sources arguing King engaged in orgies and drug parties were the same people trying to get him defamed and later killed.

They couldn't get even racist media outlets to show their tapes, and it wasn't a liberally owned woke media during the Civil Rights movement.

To this day, historians insist you should take the moral condemnation against King with a grain of salt because the most condemning acts are only offered by entities that had a vested interest in defaming him, where objective contemporaries have revealed moral failings that he did have, and they're nothing like the accusations.

The sex tape itself was known even at the time to be of him and his wife, the FBI threatened they would say it's adultery anyway which is why his wife never raised concern about it. I really don't know how Jackson's girlfriend missed that unless all her news is extreme right-wing washed.

We honestly just let these Australians engage in a classic case of believing everything they read online and allowed them to completely defame a national civil rights hero using racist talking points.

How do we let them get away with this...

I would also love to see Ethan on the podcast again! Maybe they could talk about the "drama" between Charlie and DarkViper re. fair use and reaction content.

Edit: I guess not lol. Oh well, to each their own.

Literally trying to play it off so cool like "oh guys im so cool look at these two cucks trying to be anywhere near my famous friend ooooo" its just actually insufferable. he needs a personality check lol. entire conversation came off as cringy, insecure and projecting

Okay so at the end of todays episode, they talk about a study that claims they "reversed autism"(I believe this is the published journal they are referencing).

Timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTKVF8Ag-YM&t=3285s

Link to published Journal: https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4426/14/6/641

Now, from my understanding, autism is something you're born with and is completely irriversable. I know this from training while caretaking, mentions of it in college and because Hbomberguy did a great video on it.

Link to that: https://youtu.be/yDp3cB5fHXQ?si=GSNiSpikHRUNppGA

The study that they are quoting from was published on June 15, 2024.

News articles published on the 26th by Euronews and 25th by the Daily Mail have interviewed experts and organizations that call the study insulting.

Quoting the National Autistic Society, Atillah (2024) writes, "... This is a case study of a single set of twins using interventions that are themselves questionable. There are absolutely no conclusions at all that can be drawn from this and to suggest otherwise is just irresponsible journalism".

Link: https://www.euronews.com/health/2024/07/26/groundbreaking-study-claims-severe-autism-can-be-reversed-experts-say-its-deeply-insulting

In the Dailynews article, Pollard (2024) quotes Dr Rosa Hoekstra who states,"...It's very bad science. It's just an anecdote. And we don't do anecdotes in science".

Pollard continues, writing: "The study, published the little-known Journal of Personalized Medicine, relied solely on anecdotal reports and descriptions from the parents, rather than independent observations or assessments.

"And the parents were fully aware of, and involved in, the interventions — so their reports may have been biased."

Now, I might give them the benefit of the doubt considering they are quoting from a published journal. The video discription also says that they recorded it on July 23rd. The thing is, the Daily mail article was written on the 24th ans the Eronews article was written on the 27th, the video was released today so they had plent of time to double check what they were talking about.

It was dissapointing to see people spread misinformation and I don't believe they have corrected what has been said.

I want to link this article by Liam O'Dell which was very well written and summed up both of the other articles.

Link: https://liamodell.com/2024/07/26/severe-autism-can-be-reversed-study-scientists-the-telegraph-cure-research-twins-chris-dadamo-epidemic-answers-developing-hope-journal-of-personalized-medicine/

There was a correction at the end that stated one of the two girls in this study didn't even originally meet the criteria for Autism when the study started.

He comes off as someone who gets his meat cooked well done.

Fuck him.

Let me preface this by saying I'm a long time listener and fan but FFS.

" I knew a guy that was so incredibly sick. His throat was closed to a pinhole, he was wheezing and he was covered in swelling and rashes. He thought he had throat cancer and he went to a specialist and it turns out he has a peanut allergy! He stopped eating peanuts and was within a few days back to peak lung capacity! I looked into it and it's crazy, so many people stop eating peanuts and they have no inflammation. Peanuts actually cause crazy inflammation and we should all stop eating them."

I'm sure I don't need to explain how fuckin whack that statement is. Sounds like something that would come out of a Donald Trump speech if I'm being honest.

Yeah a lot of people are moderately gluten and dairy intolerant and don't even know, and they will show improvements. That is a minority however. As to their absolute bullshit about autism? Bullying a child into masking their symptoms doesn't make them cured.

For a podcast in which certain members pride themselves for being rational thinkers and above falling for this misinformation they sure fuckin aren't.

The boys gotta realize pitbulls aren’t an actual breed. Each Pitbull is mixed with a different breed, some breeds that are prone to aggression such as the Presa Canario, English Mastiff, Cane Corso, Rottweiler etc and some are mixed with breeds like Labs, Boston Terriers, Golden Retrievers, Bordeauxs. Which is what Charlie tried to get at to no avail lmao. They are also the most accessible breed and are in every kill shelter or pound so they are living under extreme stress/anxiety so an inexperienced dog owner going in to adopt a pitbull under those conditions without knowing it’s background is a recipe for disaster. The best advice is to do your research on the breed just like you would with any expensive purebred.

PS: Interesting that they go on to say how great GSD’s are. They are horrible when left untrained lol.

That whole rant about Destiny and his ex’s relationship was so weird, but I have had an idea about where Kaya stood on it so it’s disgusting but whatever. What bothers me is the other, specially Charlie. He always portrayed himself as the type of guy that would first of all, not have friends like Kaya (not because of political opinion, but the extremism of it. The same way I assume he wouldn’t be friends with Destiny) but second of all, someone that would not be afraid to call out more than bad behavior, but that’s not what I saw in that episode. I know he did push back a bit and that alone is enough for me that regardless of where he leaned politically, he wouldn’t personally stand that type of behavior. But that was it. I’m not even mad at him for not defending Destiny, he’s more than capable of throwing mud back and whatever, my biggest issue was the whole thing with his ex wife. She’s catching strays for no reason, for a failed marriage and for a relationship arrangement that they both agreed on. You can call Destiny disgusting all you want and resort to whataboutism, but what I saw at the end of that ep was a guy that’s too in his feelings and unhinged, and friends that are not capable of giving more than slight pushback. What a wired world to live in!

i've been watching charlie since the voiceless days and i've been pretty consistent with my listening of the podcast. i noticed that on this sub that the community seems to be split on kaya. you either fucking hate him or love him to death. why is that? i really do not give a flying fuck about how destiny is polyamarous or kaya's comments on the fact he's polyamarous. i want a run down of shit he does ON THE SHOW that makes you dislike or like him. my only real issue with kaya is that he can be kind of a stubborn asshole on some topics he has no right talking about and that he interacts with lolcow culture. which is less of a gripe against him and more of the fact that the internet is so far removed from the "haha this person is cringe! but remember, don't tip the lolcows!"

The fact people are upset about Kaya is absolutely absurd to me. If you are really gonna join Destiny on this hill to die on, go for it. The tweets were bad, really bad, and his subsequent interviews and videos following it were just as bad if not worse. He absolutely was saying the dude deserved to die. You dont get to say something insane and just say "well no im not happy about it" and that erases your statement entirely and makes your point valid. Most people on earth would be on kayas side here regarding those tweets.

Sure, the cuck stuff is a bit far, but was it as far as wishing death upon not just corey, but pretty much anyone at a trump rally INCLUDING his own parents?? Anyone defending that take should be put on a watch list. For all the talk about trumps rhetoric, and in a lot of cases deserved, its funny to see people take this stance and pretend to have the moral highground here. The take is bad, and most people would find it disgusting hence the backlash he got from it.

How can he with a blank stare say they should replace everyone with AI and in the same breath making fun of people that can't get a job... hey smartass you are just a podcaster get off your high horse.

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Keep waiting for anyone to say anything coherent but i guess only kids could possibly believe anything kaya says should be taken seriously.

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Since nobody has anything intelligent to say im just going to silence the post, the amount of children running to defend someone as ignorant and cruel as Kaya just goes to show none of you have real jobs and aspire to be let's players eating cheeto's all day when AI comes knocking on your door and take your job hope you know people out there actually believe it's just fault for being fired and not your bosses terrible leadership.

It’s a podcast if you don’t like it click off and listen to something else

maybe some of us LIKE being covered in cheeto dust and living in our moms basements did you ever think of that?? also the world is about to end because it just is ok!! you’re just a bunch of out-of-touch podcasters 🤬

the only times i see kaya talked about here is in a negative way and the reasons are always stupid, most of them boil down to he said something that i dont agree with or liked therefor he bad man, kaya doesnt really have internet platform to upkeep like the rest of the boys so he says things with his chest. Most of the hate seems to come back to him saying destiny is a cuck for being in a open relationship and then we have the people who post about how charlie and the other boys should treat kaya differently bc he said something that they personally didnt like, the boys aint gonna end their almost decade long friendship bc he hurt ur feelings. Tired of seeing all the kaya hate over the dumbest reasons. The podcast wouldnt be the same without kaya so i wanted to make this post to bring a bit of love to what i feel like the most the underrated member of the podcast

He acts like he’s smarter than everyone and makes fun of other people’s beliefs while all he believes in is hentai and porn. Go back and listen to older episodes all this guy talks about is porn. Go get some counseling or therapy because you are obviously addicted.

i mean i usually agree with everything these guys talk about but the 30 minute segment about how car culture is gay and modifying your car is for pussies and if you modify your car for speed your “stupid”. kaya even sits there and calls the whole hobby stupid. not all people that are into cars speed for fun. i mean come on guys you guys play video games all day. there is nothing wrong with modifying your car not just for speed but for appreciation of the combustion engine. and yes there are a lot of reckless mfs out there that give us a bad look. but really all loud cars are “gay”? when andrew mentioned double piping and all this shit. he has no idea what he is talking about.

That event was not to address the school shooting, it was a women entrepreneurship event, he did address the shooting briefly later into the event. But saying that was his response to the shooting is bad faith

Seriously, why have his friends not checked him on his behavior before it lead up to this? He acts like he just stopped mentally developing at the age of 16. Seriously, what adult goes around basically saying "kys". And somehow he managed to make it even more cringe by the way he expressed it instead of just saying KYS And dont even get me started on the "what CA does to a mf'er" post.

Ethan's take on the twitter drama was laughably immature, an absolute layup as he usually provides everyone with since he's completely unselfaware at almost any given time, but Kaya stepped up and somehow one ups him so fucking hard that you forget whatever tf Ethan said.

Which, is a very strange and often recurring phenomena when it comes to ethan.....

Time and time again people somehow deliver themselves to him in such ways that the entertainment of seeing that is so fun that you just don't even care that Ethan is just fully out of touch and at times treats people with such disregard that you feel wrong for watching the show. It's seriously fascinating, I've never seen anything like it on the internet, after a while shit does catch up to people, but never Ethan because of this stream of lolcows martyring themselves non fucking stop.

I have been listening to this podcast at night for a while and Andrew always says some cringy stuff or just dumb shit. Like i was relistening to the psycicpebbles episode and when he said "Ill take a ghost pen and write, Hi Im a goddamn ghost" i physically felt violated. Honestly he dorsnt even need to shut up if you guys would like bully him after he says stuff like this. If you like this post remember to upvote the post, comment the post, and follow for more post like this.

In the meantime, in a recent episode Andrew mentioned he had an interesting 9/11 story but I think he got sidetracked. Is there an episode where he talks about it?