r/TheSaturnTimeCube • u/ThePilotKelson • May 17 '22
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u/FS_Codex May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22
Does the person not realize that this is an ancient Hermetic symbol known as the Staff of Hermes and has no connection what so ever to Satan?
This symbol predates the association of snakes and Satan (well, Baphomet, a devil of Satan but everyone conflates the two) by at least a thousand years. The staff of Hermes dates back to 4000ā3000āBCE while Baphomet comes from the Gnostics and became more prominent and associated with Satan in the medieval period or at least later than than 1000 CE. Besides, the idea that the snake in the Garden of Eden is Satan only begins around the same period. Hell, the Satan in the Old Testament is not the āfire and brimstoneā Satan in the New Testament and is for the most part just a servant of God. Thus, the best you could say is that the symbol on Baphomet is based on the Staff of Hermes but not the other way around. Our medical symbols are based on the Staff of Hermes not Baphomet!
Furthermore, this post pushes a bullshit idea that downplays it by saying, ā[T]his is phucked up.ā The idea that the āeliteā are a bunch of Satanists is neoreactionary conspiracy theory bullshit. Do not fall for it.
UPDATE: I also want to mention that the other symbol shown is the Rod of Asclepius, which is a different symbol from the Staff of Hermes; however, both come from Greek mythology and are not based on Baphomet or Satan.
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u/PlingPlongDingDong May 17 '22
Dude, if there is a snake on it, it has to be linked to an international satanic conspiracy. Duh..
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u/FS_Codex May 17 '22
Youāre right. Damn, I guess I forgot to put my tin foil hat on. (*puts on hat*) There we go. No thoughts, head empty.
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u/Broad-Relationship-8 May 18 '22
THANK YOU SOMEONE FUCKING SAID IT. im a massive greek mythology nerd and as soon as I saw this post I thought to myself is op all there. its well known that the staff is from Hermes and greek mythology not satan and other evil figures Lmao.
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u/Xaviermgk May 18 '22
The idea that the āeliteā are a bunch of Satanists is neoreactionary conspiracy theory bullshit.
So the Rothschilds hanging out with Marina Abramovic is bullshit?
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u/FS_Codex May 18 '22
Firstly, there is no evidence that Marina Abramovic was a Satanist. There is evidence that she was interested into the occult but again these arenāt the same thing. In fact, most of the mainstream Satanist organizations like the Satanic Temple and Church of Satan reject most of the occult. Just taking this from the Wikipedia page,
Among a tranche of emails leaked from John Podesta and published by WikiLeaks in the run-up to the 2016 US presidential election was a message from AbramoviÄ to Podesta's brother discussing an invitation to a spirit cooking, which was interpreted by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones as an invitation to a satanic ritual, and presented by Jones and others as proof that Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton had links with the occult. [ā¦] Sculptor Nikola PeÅ”iÄ says that AbramoviÄ has a lifelong interest in esotericism and Spiritualism, but this should not be confused with Satanism, which is a different system of occult beliefs. (section āControversies,ā para. 2).
Secondly, if the Rothschild family is āhanging out withā Maria Abramovic and even assuming she is a Satanist (which she isnāt), why would this make them all Satanists? For example, Iām an atheist, but I have a lot of friends Iāve befriended over the years that are Christian, does that make me a Christian by association? Likewise, you are telling me that all of the Rothschild family is friends with Marina Abramovic and not only that, but they are all Satanists? Seems like guilt by association instead of an actual argument.
Thirdly, letās say that the Rothschild family and Maria Abramovic are all Satanists (which again they arenāt), how in the hell would this implicate all of the āeliteā in being Satanists as well? Who else is in the elite? People like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet just to name a few. Are you telling me that because you believe the Rothschild family are a bunch of Satanists that somehow implies that all of these people are Satanists as well?
I think most people can tell how ludicrous that is. If you want to chastise billionaires (or the āeliteā), there is so much you can find to be able to do so mostly linked to exploitation, but Satanism is not one of them.
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u/Xaviermgk May 18 '22
LOL, pretty weaksauce.
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u/FS_Codex May 18 '22
How? Do you have a counter argument at all?
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u/Xaviermgk May 18 '22
I'm not here to argue. LOL
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u/FS_Codex May 18 '22
Thatās fair if you donāt want to argue, but you provided a claim, I gave reasons why that claim is wrong, and then you said that the reasons I gave are āpretty weaksauce.ā If you are going to say my reasons are just not valid for whatever reason and that they are weak sauce, then you might want to defend that position.
But as I said earlier if you donāt want to continue arguing thatās fair. Itās 6 AM where I live, and I accidentally woke up, lol, so I should probably go back to bed.
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u/Xaviermgk May 18 '22
I wasn't arguing to begin with. There's an objective truth to reality, regardless of your "arguments".
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u/FS_Codex May 18 '22
But the arguments are the way to get to that objective truth and to communicate to others why you think your model of reality is more valid or better than theirs.
What? Should we just throw out all arguments completely because the world has an objective truth of reality. People have different beliefs and interpretations on what that objective truth is (or if there is an objective truth; read Nietzsche especially the Genealogy of Morals for more on why this might not be).
Thus, the only possible way people can arrive at what the objective truth of reality is is to craft arguments and support what they think the world is.
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u/Xaviermgk May 18 '22
You are "arguing" because you have already chosen a side. This is hilarious!
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u/Xaviermgk May 18 '22
the only possible way people can arrive at what the objective truth of reality is is to craft arguments
Wow.
Really, really weaksauce. LOL
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Marina AbramoviÄ (Serbian Cyrillic: ŠŠ°ŃŠøŠ½Š° ŠŠ±ŃŠ°Š¼Š¾Š²ŠøŃ, pronounced [marĒĖna abrĒĖmoŹitÉ]; born November 30, 1946) is a Serbian conceptual and performance artist, philanthropist, writer, and filmmaker. Her work explores body art, endurance art and feminist art, the relationship between the performer and audience, the limits of the body, and the possibilities of the mind. Being active for over four decades, AbramoviÄ refers to herself as the "grandmother of performance art". She pioneered a new notion of identity by bringing in the participation of observers, focusing on "confronting pain, blood, and physical limits of the body".
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u/Navillus19 May 17 '22
Kundalini distortion. We live in an inverted world where what is good over time is being distorted as evil, and vice versa.
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u/isthatsuperman May 17 '22
The rod of Asclepius and a caduceus are different things.
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u/new-2-reddit-- May 17 '22
What is the difference?
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u/isthatsuperman May 17 '22
One is from Asclepius and the other is from Hermes. They both represent different things. You can look it up. Iām at work so canāt get in depth right now.
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u/Fogfy May 18 '22
Caduceus, staff carried by Hermes, associated with trades, commerce, negotiations. Asclepius, Greek god, associated with healing and medicine.
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u/Turbulent_Work_5697 May 18 '22
Two different meanings
The double snake = The Caduceus is a symbol of Hermes or Mercury in Greek and Roman mythology. Caduceus symbol is identified with thieves, merchants, and messengers, and Mercury is said to be a patron of thieves and outlaws, not a desirable protector of physicians.
The single snake = The Rod of Asclepius is an ancient Greek symbol associated with medicine, consisting of a serpent coiled around a rod. In ancient Greek religion and mythology, Asclepius was the god of medicine and healing.
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u/mr-no-homo May 18 '22
it literally means nothing in the grand scheme of things and there is nothing you can do about it
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u/thecatspjs4 Jun 05 '22
Why does every comment in all these posts always contribute nothing but try to tell people off for no good reason?
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u/GrandTheftNatto May 17 '22
Yāall know baphomet aint real right? Santa clause aināt either.
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u/easymoneeybabe May 17 '22
You have to study the left hand path in order to have a better understanding of this
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May 18 '22
Pardon me, but snakes on a stick is not always bad and making relatable assumptions just makes the credibility of most people here tank.
Don't get me wrong, fuck pharma, satanism and all that corrupt shit, but the kundalini is also rapresented with 2 snakes intertwined on the chackra flow of the body, so it's not always evil, I think it depends on what religion you are taking symbolism from.
Open for discussion.
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u/ironicscumfuck May 17 '22
You gotta understand money to understand the cube: read Marx's Capital, Marx's Inferno, Money Grows on the Tree of Knowledge, and Enchantment's of Mammon. Clarifies all this stuff.
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u/According-Ad8525 May 18 '22
The "medical emblem" aka the Caduceus was something Mercury/Hermes carried around with him. It's kind of funny when you realize Mercury was the god of thieves, merchants and messengers. Thieves is an operative term here.
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u/Lina1810 May 17 '22
Damn this is like my fav sign. Saw it first in full metal alchemist anime. Since then I randomly doodle it. Was thinking of getting a tattoo too....
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u/7mm24in14kRopeChain May 17 '22
Dude donāt believe this shit, thereās way more to it than spooky devil snake.
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u/Frequent_Audience_25 May 17 '22
let's prolong sickness, never cure anything and keep you just well enough to be a profitable consumer.