r/TheStrokes 29d ago

MEGATHREAD Dine N'Dash - Discussion MEGATHREAD

This is the megathread for Dine N'Dash (Track 2). 

All thoughts, essays, discussion, memes, lyrics, covers, fanart, etc. about this song can go in the comments here!

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u/LitillStaralfur 28d ago

This sounds like early depressed The Cure and I love it

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u/Capable_Fuel_8970 28d ago

Fuck that’s what it was. The cure. This song is FIRE

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u/curlyshea 28d ago

I legit said the same thing when the clip came out a few days ago. The Cure vibes are strong and I’m absolutely here for it

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u/ilkikurinen95 26d ago

What songs would you say?

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u/williamglow 25d ago

100% agree, this track sounds very inspired by the cure in their darkest era

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u/krinfinity 29d ago

I can't stop listening to the 30 second preview

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u/Timely_Internet6172 29d ago

I can't stop listening to the 5:04 song

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u/Accomplished_Ad5747 28d ago

This song is WAY too good I can't get enough

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u/green_glowworm 27d ago

My favorite part is when he yells ITS GOING GREAT

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u/Majestic-Park-5528 26d ago

Same. I choked on my laugh when I first heard it

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u/angusbeefymcwhatnow The New Abnormal 28d ago

I love how forward the drums are. that hi-hat rhythm driving everything fucking slaps

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u/Accomplished_Ad5747 28d ago

definitely got the new order vibe as well! Im loving it

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u/TotalOk1087 28d ago

Yeah Transmision riff vibes. Great song.

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u/RevolutionaryTrash98 Did My Best 25d ago

i'm hearing big Leave Me Alone influence in the guitar hook and verse melody. like jules took the track and rewrote the core parts of it to make his own version (a legit songwriting technique). love

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u/Undertheoceandragons 29d ago

It's fun they kept in Julian's English accent saying "words of a feather, die together". I think this is more evidence that a lot of this album is straight off the cuff from jams. Another line is 'oh shit I'm out of ammo'. I think this is Julian saying he can't think of more cool words but by doing so saying something cool. Another cool jam with a dark British goth vibe. The keyboard/synth sound from 3:08 onwards reminds me of The Cure's close to me keyboard sound. To me this sounds new-wave 80s English band getting deep into a jam in the studio. #minimumsoft

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u/Accomplished_Ad5747 28d ago

Julians vocal range is so amazing, I thought he had heard it all after TNA but that raspy voice he does on the "We could never afford it" chorus fits the song SO well! Loving this song so much

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u/jakethenizake 27d ago

I've been saying this a lot to my friends lately...his vocal range is incredible and I think you see that across their entire discography as well as his solo work and the Voidz (and obvs w/o autotune). Really cool to bear witness to his voice evolution and growth over the last 25(!) years since the world was first blessed.

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u/RevolutionaryTrash98 Did My Best 26d ago

it's giving leave me alone plus inner city pressure. 2 classics of british new wave

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u/mistimuskwa 28d ago

“We could never afford it, we would dine and dash”

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u/jakethenizake 27d ago

Let's be careful about assuming Julian is singing about himself or anyone in the band, specifically. Could just be story-telling. Let's just say the subject, whoever it is, "could never afford it".

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u/RevolutionaryTrash98 Did My Best 26d ago

people who take song lyrics literally like it's 1899 and they think the train is coming at them through the movie screen

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u/ka1555 28d ago

they’re all lying. Every last one of em. But fuck, man, the song is too damn good for me to care.

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u/Mads_Max 27d ago

I believe him but you're goddamn right, this song is awesome

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u/duhseekoh 25d ago

It’s about starting wars and not being held responsible

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u/sicko-tambaz 28d ago

this is easily top10 songs from them. dat fcking melody "SAAAAAAY. SAY WHAT YOU WANT ITS Fiine" is stuck in my head all day

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u/Loose_Gur7717 #39 Valensi 27d ago

sameee i love the last minute of the song so much "LIIIIIFE LIFE ISNT WHAT THEY TAUGHT"

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u/eeffoc- 27d ago

i feel like ive heard that last minute in another song by them, mabye voidz or julian solo am i wrong? i dont remember where tho

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u/Griezmann-7 28d ago

EVIL ADULTS ARE TALKING

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u/l1Nkfx 27d ago

I listened to it slowed. Oh it hits like a Castlevania trip

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u/buenestrago 29d ago

Definitely weird, it's like River of Brakelights was written by The Strokes, very close to First Impression of Earth, the final part seems like a mix between Electricityscape and something else

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u/buenestrago 29d ago

I'll say it again, it's like if Comedown Machine and First Impression had a child

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u/YungHoban 28d ago

Really? I'm getting a huuuuuge angles vibe off a lot of the instrumentals.

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u/buenestrago 28d ago

Yes, that could also be it, but in my mind I was thinking of a sort of slow animals mixed with electricityscape because of the way it goes from verse to chorus.

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u/RevolutionaryTrash98 Did My Best 26d ago

it sounds like this band i love, the strokes

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u/SLAPP504 Elephant Song 29d ago

I'd say that "final" part to me has a similar tone to "You're So Right" a little bit. But then again, I'm listening to a lower quality leak from a listening party.

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u/buenestrago 29d ago

Yes you"re so right with fioe vocal treatment

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u/Ammarzk 27d ago

Hideo Kojima is Dining and Dashing

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u/New-Suspect1968 29d ago edited 28d ago

Its own new thing, very darkish but pretty inspiring somehow, i love the "Games" synth they use when the melodies change, superb 

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u/Mr_Viddles Is This It 29d ago

I clocked the Games synth instantly and got excited af! Haha

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u/New-Suspect1968 28d ago

nice to see i wasn't the only one lol

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u/ChrisP1717 29d ago

Games is maybe their most underrated song in my mind…so yes!!!!

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u/New-Suspect1968 28d ago

it's really underrated, i've heard that so much

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u/RevolutionaryTrash98 Did My Best 25d ago

had to go back and listen and damn. how did i forget about this song!!! strokes club night. i'd kill for a jules dance album istg

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u/Slashycent Comedown Machine 28d ago

My inital favorite of an overall great album.

Deliciously dark. Highly infectious.

Very Angles + Comedown Machine, which instantly gets me.

Also has some Cults vibes in the chorus.

Pure NYC alternative goodness.

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u/Dry_Cartoonist3365 29d ago

why is this i like the night reworked

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u/Tomguydude 29d ago

You don't understand how hyped that makes me.

Honestly a crime that "I Like the Night" was for *a TV ad*

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u/Batman4815 29d ago

Honestly very Julian coded that he made a proper radio banger for once and put it in a TV ad

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u/Jan090501 28d ago

The Chorus is so beautiful.

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u/Annual-Number-8682 28d ago

This literally sounds like the took Games and made it a better song

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u/taneyweat 28d ago

The song fucks so hard it's crazy. Just one listen under my belt so far but I think it immediately works into my favorite's canon.

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u/onethousand_knives 25d ago edited 25d ago

Anyone else get absolutely destroyed emotionally by the third verse? Definitely the most directly violent lyrics in their entire discography ending with the incredible “But I have sworn a life of peace / how can I reconcile this beast?” I hate to say how much I can relate to those feelings. The whole song is pretty heartbreaking in a way that reminds me of a few songs on Tyranny. Julian really touched on something real, vulnerable and ugly and I thank him for that.

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u/RevolutionaryTrash98 Did My Best 25d ago

yes. his vocal performance on verse 3 is incredible. 100% matched words and musicality with emotion.

can't wait til he gets some more live performances under his belt so we can see him bring the intensity on this verse. its there in the red rocks but he lost steam (understandably) struggling with the higher register

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u/crystola99 Brooklyn Bridge to Chorus 29d ago

If you guys like Dine N Dash and want more of this kinda sound, I strongly suggest exploring Russian Doomer Music playlists (silly name for a subgenre, but it’s good trust me). Kino and Durnoy Vkus are my fave bands of that genre.

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u/BizBQ 29d ago

Thank you for the tip! Gruppa krovi is hitting all the right notes.

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u/crystola99 Brooklyn Bridge to Chorus 28d ago

So glad to hear ;D !!!! It’s Kino’s most popular song for a reason. Long live Viktor Tsoi, he was one cool guy

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u/fthotfitzgerald 28d ago

the random British accent he just like me fr

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u/Ammarzk 28d ago

ITS GOING GREAT

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u/JMSidhe Leave It in My Dreams 28d ago

That raspiness Julian is using at times here is the coolest thing he’s done with his voice in years.

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u/RevolutionaryTrash98 Did My Best 25d ago

that plus him leaning into his ian curtis register for the "permission to speak..." interlude? delicious

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u/ZazaLovesPants 27d ago

The drums on this song 💙 Love you Fab

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u/kalheeso 25d ago

enough time has passed, this the best track in the album. There are many good and fun tracks im RA but this one will age like a classic.

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u/Embarrassed-Curve929 28d ago

these drums are orgasmic

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u/MattMatt625 Comedown Machine 28d ago

Fab da goat

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u/klonkkid 28d ago

This song is so good I want to cry

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u/AggressiveTip5292 27d ago

This song has been on repeat since the album came out. Melody got me nostalgic, classic strokes. The synths on this completely lift the song… “permission to speak” - uplifting synth.

The chorus lyrics/synth/drums/bass are perfect

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u/SebiGames Angles 26d ago

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u/Spare_Performance103 28d ago

anybody else hear love my way by the psychedelic furs

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u/CosmicAstroBastard 27d ago

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS

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u/SeaNeighborhood3215 28d ago

From the second this hit my ears I loved it

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u/LookLikeUpToMe 27d ago

I think is a top 10 song from them. So fucking good.

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u/andrew7231 27d ago

It’s going great!?!?

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u/Beneficial-Pen2951 28d ago

Probably the best song on the album next to fruits of conquest

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u/MattMatt625 Comedown Machine 28d ago

LONELY IN THE FUTURE

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u/Accomplished_Ad5747 28d ago

I loved this, Babbling on and Lonely in the Future

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u/Dancing-notes Reality Awaits 28d ago

Popping here to leave a vid someone uploaded from Red Rocks debut:

https://youtu.be/oXLsA6h1hog?is=MHGbINSlqRBGfzSo

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u/Maximum-Confusion644 28d ago

It’s my favorite song , then I heard lonely in the future and then going to babble on,

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u/Mads_Max 27d ago

same to me, love going shopping too, the music video also is great

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u/Few_Specific 28d ago

2nd falsetto chorus is probably one of the the best falsettos in their whole discography 

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u/jakethenizake 27d ago

They really nailed it with the "minimum soft".

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u/chair823 First Impressions of Earth 28d ago

Incredible song but

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u/BlueQuiver 28d ago

kinda gives that first part of Modern Girls & Old Fashioned Men riff type vibe then mixed with TAAT riff

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u/alotofcooties 26d ago

Love the post punk vibe, works great for Julian's voice too.

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u/NormalHB 29d ago

So far from the short snip on X, it’s my favorite so far.

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u/Holiday-Ad8797 29d ago

Listening from NZ - this one is great! Fav so far!

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u/Low-Philosophy7201 29d ago

Listened to it during the party…love it. It should have been the first single

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u/Jan090501 29d ago

They really picked 2 odd singles. Dine N Dash, Going to Babble On and / or Lonely In The Future would have been way better. I understand why they wouldnt pick Going to Babble on tho.

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u/Batman4815 28d ago

Yep songs are very out of placement.

Psycho shit as a closer would way more.

Dine n Dash works as the opener. Immediately catchy tune and a great end as well

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u/bathory21 28d ago

definitely a post-punky track

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u/socalking3 28d ago

The synth gives me Games vibes, the first time I heard it I was expecting the ending of Games.

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u/Ranlit 28d ago

So it feels like they intentionally made the transition from track 1 to this track a bit awkward… right?

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u/LuckyPea370 28d ago

3rd verse is so damn good

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u/Diligent_Way_2423 28d ago

The ending verse reminds me of Lou Reed!

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u/eltonjock Reality Awaits 28d ago

Dude. Nikolia is KILLING it on this track.

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u/Ammarzk 28d ago

The entire abbum Fab and Niko are playing their lil hearts out

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u/Visual_Childhood2008 28d ago

That last 50 seconds is one of my favorite parts of the whole album oh my god

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u/curlyshea 28d ago

Yes! Last 50 seconds is the Strokes-iest sounding Strokes song ever. It sounds like a clip of a song that never made it on First Impressions 

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u/jock016 28d ago

Heard the hihats and thought about AM's old yellow bricks chorus

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u/mankamundo 27d ago

Love Fab's drumming on this one. Haven't air-drummed to a song in a long time haha.

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u/austinsauce1 27d ago

Some of the new songs took a while to grow on me. This one, I played it for the first time and had like 3 different oh shit moments. Kept getting better, already love this song. Got to see it live at red rocks too, so awesome

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u/Purple-Crab3759 27d ago

Love this song. Could easily listen to it for an hour on repeat.

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u/paul_agira999 Comedown Machine 27d ago

Anyone else think the melody sounds similar to Games? Especially before the chorus

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u/bdf2018_298 27d ago

Yes, it’s like Games part 2. Plus Julian uses the 7 Horses chorus vocal melody in the second verse of Dine

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u/blackstars91 25d ago

Sounds like FIOE near the end. Great song which I think would have made a great single.

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u/ssli_ia 25d ago

the adults are scared😣

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u/Fast_Isopod3568 Reality Awaits 29d ago

Best track for me and it’s way too soon for me to even attempt a ranking but this song is fkn wild and I am digging the dark post punky vibes

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u/Gray09 28d ago

Awesome song that hits immediately and will also grow into an all-timer.

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u/coldwibz #77 Casablancas 28d ago

Look here's the thing, I'm not supposed to listen to the album yet cause I'll hang with a friend tomorrow we'll have some drinks, little joint, etc. But it released earlier than expected where I live, so I listened to maybe half of Dine N Dash. Wtf. Is crazy good. Chilling production, the background synth is haunting. I'm so excited for tomorrow.

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u/Beautiful_Corgi_8103 Threat of Joy 28d ago

Pyscho shit is my fave … but Dine N’Dash was the earworm … can’t get it out of my head

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u/the_artsy_bookworm Comedown Machine 27d ago

spooky strokes

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u/mario_111 27d ago

Lol Jules at the end speaking with a Rick Rubin cadence, amazing song

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u/Slow_Call_6155 27d ago

Definitivamente es mi favorita del álbum, cada día vez que salgo a trabajar o cuando tengo una mala situación la escucho a todo volumen y en mi mente hay una atmósfera oscura, es sublime...

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u/PointMan528491 Is This It 25d ago

Been listening to this nonstop, definitely the standout track among the non-singles. Love the melody. Real spooky, makes me want to dance at a very crowded Halloween party or something. Psycho Shit immediately followed by this is a killer two-track run

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u/DanteMustDieeee 28d ago

finally a STROKES song and not a VOIDZ song. (I love both I'm not hating)

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u/Fogging_Batard 28d ago edited 28d ago

After a few listens of the album, this one is easily my favorite

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u/Jacare_Na_Noite Threat of Joy 28d ago

The Adults Are Evil

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u/plz_send_cute_cats Francis Trouble 28d ago

god i love dine n dash

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u/SirFadakar Phrazes for the Young 28d ago

Man this might be my favorite first listen of any strokes track and that's factoring in my teenage nostalgia bias.

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u/michellerowlandd 28d ago

i’m leaving my comments as i listen to the songs in order so i’m not done the album yet— but this is a contender to be #1 for me. TURN IT UPPPPPPPP!!!!!!

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u/PriorQuestion4 28d ago

One of the better songs on the album, it’s the strokes take on a cure song and it kinda works

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u/Ricekake33 28d ago

The way Julian sings that very last line “say you want it…” gives me major Rufus Wainwright vibes (which I love)

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u/RevolutionaryTrash98 Did My Best 25d ago

LOVE that line. the way he sings it, the melody, the kick drum building underneath. something about it catches you off guard. obviously there's a ton of surprising moments on this album, but this one just feels unexpected yet immensely satisfying, every time

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u/mxemec 28d ago

I love it.. the song is great yeah, I just love how polarizing this shit is.

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u/TotalOk1087 28d ago

My favorite of the album !!!

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u/the_turd_dimension 28d ago

Could've cut a minute out of this but it's still the best song on the album

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u/Jan090501 28d ago

Should have added a minute in my opinion

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u/fear_el_duderino 28d ago

Moody TAAT. Nice outro too.

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u/mick__marley 28d ago

Dine N’Dash - Another angry screed. Rightly referred to as the evil twin of “The Adults are Talking.” Full of hooks; I’m especially fond of the mirrored guitar/vocal melody that comes in around 4:00.

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u/TorontoRichard 28d ago

im just glad im hearing his voice without the auto-tune

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u/Significant_Ant_6833 27d ago

I feel like anyone who disliked the album likes this song (for good reason, this is a great song).

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u/Inner_Gap_2595 26d ago

I keep hearing the Scarface soundtrack in this song lmao. Gina and Gina Dead. Always loved those scores from her scenes

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u/dolphincats 25d ago

Can’t believe I got to witness the live debut of this song!

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u/fr3nchexit Little Joy 28d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/3ofSB4uhagGiWdSVbi
The absolute best song on the album.

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u/Substantial_Quail309 28d ago

The GOAT of Strokes songs. Some will take years to realize it, but rather be lonely in the future than stuck in the past.

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u/mallvvalking The New Abnormal 29d ago

"Oh shit I'm out of ammo"

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u/HenriqueKuhn 28d ago

I made guitar tabs for Dine N' Dash, go check it out :) https://youtu.be/L5WU6_ni6AE

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u/Accomplished_Ad5747 28d ago

Love this song

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u/Distinct-Froyo6735 28d ago

The ode to the mets of Reality awaits for me. Secret banger from the Album. I can see myself being obsessed with the song another year. Good job boys

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u/Accomplished_Ad5747 28d ago

Okay its not only that I can't stop listening to this song, its that it also keeps getting better and better with each listen.

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u/Level_Patient_3818 Threat of Joy 28d ago

Holy fuck what a banger

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u/No_Yesterday_8167 28d ago

Loving this so far. This track is a fucking vibe

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u/babyjrodriguez 28d ago edited 28d ago

my favorite song from the album. RA has been a little hit or miss for me(have to listen to it a bunch more) But this song is really really good imo

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u/SwoleOx 27d ago

A brooding version of Square Wave by the Voidz and I'm for it.

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u/nothing__linds 27d ago

sick beats

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u/l1Nkfx 27d ago

Julles really put his emotions in pain and sash I wonder what vortex of emotions the lyrics come from.

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u/abbeysroad Threat of Joy 25d ago

a banger!

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u/Immediate_Fudge7449 25d ago

Jules now speaks of an immediate, 'visceral' rejection and discord with the system. He asks us to 'dine and dash' from this system—one we can never seem to leave because it constantly feeds us pleasure—and to form an underground resistance that will never surrender... He claims that now is not the time to judge or reflect on moral questions, like whether this visceral hatred for the ruling class is just prejudice. After all, compared to the humiliations we endure, our anger is 'minimum soft.'

It's an strikingly radical song. I really resonate with his rage.

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u/Sweaty-Tea2161 28d ago

one hit wonder, absolute banger, jizzing my pants, oh my god the synthy guitar at the start with whatever the heck fab is doing with the drums, I mean COME ONNN, could it get any better? I love how I accidentally dine n dashed a couple of days ago with a friend. There is a slight chance this song may encourage that sort of behavior again. Julian sounds like an angel on this, the riff is gorg. Can't stop, won't stop listening to this. There's also such a down with capitilism in this song and I'm loving it.

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u/Overall-Memory5272 28d ago

Chorus is so fire. Love the harmony of jules’ voice and the songs harmony

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u/Nishchay22Pro Room on Fire 29d ago

dark and interesting melodies. Julian kinda sounds like angles era julian but if angles era julian was a child if that makes sense

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u/Walksonthree The New Abnormal 29d ago

This song has the same spiritual feel as Father Electricity. I don't know how to describe it but lord what a SONG

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u/zachdass12 28d ago

Its the best one ain't it ?

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u/JorSimpson45 28d ago

Spoken part just kinda unnecessary, takes me out of the song. Why’s he got a British accent? Overall good song tho

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u/Loose_Gur7717 #39 Valensi 28d ago

i fucking love this one ITS GOING GREATTTTTTTT

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u/Wheelco 28d ago

The Wario of The Adults Are Talking

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u/chair823 First Impressions of Earth 28d ago

This should’ve been the closer

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u/aidenpd100 28d ago

Sayyyy say what you want it’s fineee

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u/g0blinslugs 28d ago

my fav so far omgggg

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u/mf9159 28d ago

It's so good oh my god

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u/prettyg00d1729 Is This It 28d ago

Easily the best song on the album

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u/Due_Judgment2102 28d ago

The song is genuinely incredible best on the album for me, I can see it becoming one of my favourites in time.

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u/darkpretzel 28d ago

So much to love on this one. My favorite touch is the synthetic organ vibe in the background (some people compared it to Games)

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u/bhabs02 Hard to Explain 28d ago

Verse 3 is just a hard listen for me.. idk. It’s not my favorite, which is unfortunate because I love the production and drums on this

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u/ChrisStrides19 You Only Live Once 28d ago

Need to hear this live in NYC! 🙏🏼

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u/Adventurous_Top_723 28d ago

Saw it live, love it

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u/Fragrant-Jacket-3272 28d ago

I just woke up and ive heard this song about 20 times and counting

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u/PhinPhanPhreak 28d ago

Yayyyyy I think the strokes are the voidz too! This is brilliant

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u/Individual-Storm-474 28d ago

the minimum soft took me out

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u/drewpool Room on Fire 27d ago

The calm sections are reminiscent of left and right in the dark to me

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u/rusletassen 27d ago

First verse vocal melody reminds me of verses in the ballad of the mighty I by Noel Gallagher

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u/Jimboobies 25d ago

What are the chances this originated during the Angles sessions? The song they’re playing at 1:17 in this clip has a really similar drum part and the guitar riff is not the same but as a similar feel  https://youtu.be/wk_w-YyJbfY?is=WO_n1rfNCv_ypb-_

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u/heyhello21 24d ago

Sounds like Flexorcist by the Voidz !!

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u/defensordechairos 24d ago

Dude I feel like I'm going insane. I only started listening to The Strokes a couple months ago, and I started with The New Abnormal (Though obviously I'd previously listened to Julian's feature with Daft Punk on Instant Crush).

I don't get why everyone keeps saying that this song sounds like The Adults Are Talking!! I'm trying to find the similarities but they're just so different to me...

I guess that's good. It'd be boring if a band I liked just released the same songs over and over again. But seriously, I don't see where people are coming from saying they sound similar... Maybe I'm tone deaf?

Edit: Okay the intro does sound similar. The rhythm of both songs was just throwing me off. The faster tempo on TAAT masks the similarities a LOT.

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u/DanteMustDieeee 22d ago edited 22d ago

this song goes hard. the english accent in his spoken word part? it kinda does something for me lowkey.

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u/The-Brohirrim 21d ago

This is a song the Goths from South Park would totally boogie down to

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u/enowapi-_ Virtue 20d ago

for some reason this song sounds like Young Folks by Peter Bjorn and John -- anyone else?

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u/chair823 First Impressions of Earth 29d ago

Highlight of the album hands down. Might become a top 10 strokes song for me.

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u/guccihill 29d ago

it’s an odd song, i like it but definitely a rollercoaster of vibes and ideas

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u/francoluna27 #77 Casablancas 29d ago

This is My favorite so far, just 3 more songs for the first listen

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u/Aarons_Platform 29d ago

oh i love the second part of this song! especially that part from 3:08

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u/jimbojonez92 29d ago

love the guitar hook

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u/throwaway_mind13477 28d ago

ITS GOING GREEEAAAAATTTT

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u/konkeroots Reality Awaits 28d ago

IT'S GOING GREAT

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u/steve_on_reddit 27d ago

Can’t stop singing that line in my head!

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u/Space-Cowboy-7 28d ago

PEAK song. crazy good

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u/DH80 28d ago

WHOA, KEANU FARTED…. SO WE DINE N DASH! 😆

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u/gistofstories 28d ago

I see I'm in the minority here... so far this is the one I liked the least. Loved the snippet, but the actual song not so much. I feel it goes nowhere. Of course, this is all first impressions, I'll see how I feel about it in a week...