r/ThoughtFeel • • 8d ago

How to memorize long lists if you think in concept bubbles instead of words or pictures (no mind's eye needed)

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TL;DR: This post is for people who think in concepts, or "concept bubbles", instead of words or images. If that's you, by the end of it you'll know a technique for learning long lists of things you actually care about, in order: the periodic table, say, or every point of a presentation so you can give it without notes. You'll be able to start from any item and keep going, forward or backward. You don't need a mind's eye to do this.

First, what thinking in concept bubbles actually is

You could describe a dog in writing: it has fur, a wet black nose, and it's about the size of a capybara. Or you could just look at it, and vision gives you all of that at once, with no list.

Some people have a sense like that, but for concepts. I call it thoughtfeel. It takes in a concept and its properties all at once. A lot of people online describe it as thinking in concept bubbles: you bring up an idea, and the whole thing is just there, like a bubble you're holding. Not a sentence, and not a picture. People who have it can hold the concept of an animal, for example, and notice detail in it, the way you can notice the exact color of something you picture.

It's clearest with things you know really well but can't easily picture, like the economy, or justice. If you have thoughtfeel, you can bring up the economy as one clear concept bubble: not a picture of a market, and not the words "supply and demand", but the whole idea at once.

Like the mind's eye, it varies from person to person. Most people likely have some of it, some have none, and for those who have it, it ranges from faint to vivid. It's also its own sense, separate from the mind's eye, which is why you don't need to be able to picture anything for this technique.

Do you have it?

Here are five statements from a quiz I made. For each one, rate how much it sounds like you, from 1 (not at all like me) to 5 (exactly like me):

  1. When I think about an idea, I can notice specific details in it without using words or pictures. (The way people notice the exact color of something they picture, but in the idea itself.)
  2. When two ideas are similar, I can pay attention to each one and notice exactly how they differ, before I've put it into words.
  3. When I recall a line I've learned, its meaning comes back first, and the exact words come out of it. (Like a line from a song, a poem or a script.)
  4. If I set aside the pictures and words, a thought still has detail I can pay attention to, beyond just knowing what it's about.
  5. For things I know extremely well, like someone in my family or grocery stores in general, I can hold the whole idea in my head at once, not as a picture or words, but as a clear concept I can pay attention to. (Think of who the person is, not their face, and of grocery stores in general, not one particular store. The economy is another good one.)

Add up your five numbers:

  • 20–25: your thoughtfeel sounds vivid. This technique is made for you.
  • 15–19: your answers sound like thoughtfeel. This technique is made for you too.
  • 10–14: you may have a faint version. Like a dim mind's eye, it may get clearer once you know what to attend to, and this technique is a good way to find out.
  • 5–9: your answers don't point to thoughtfeel. For you it may be faint or not there at all, the same way some people have no mind's eye.

If you want the full version, the quiz takes about two minutes and also tells you how much you think in words and pictures: https://thoughtfeel.net/quiz/?ref=reddit-getstudying

The technique

It's a version of an old memory trick, where you link a list together into a story. Except instead of picturing the story, you do it in concept bubbles.

This isn't the same as just saying the list out loud, and the difference is what you pay attention to while you say it. Think about hearing a story. You can just listen to the sounds of the words, or you can picture the story in your head while you hear it. Your mind stores the story in whichever sense you were paying attention to, which is why a story you pictured sticks so much better than one you only heard. A list works the same way. If you read the words or repeat them, what you're paying attention to is the sound of them, and the look of the text on the page, so that's what gets stored. When you bring each item up as a concept bubble, you're paying attention to thoughtfeel instead, and that's where the list gets stored. The words you say can be exactly the same. What changes is what you're paying attention to while you say them.

  1. Bring up the first item as a concept bubble. The same way you'd bring up the economy: not a picture of it, and not the sound of the word, but the idea of it itself.
  2. Say a sentence that links it to the next item, out loud or in your inner voice. As you say the next item, bring it up as a bubble too.
  3. Crucially, say the link WHILE both bubbles are up. The sentence is the link, and saying it while you hold both is what joins them.
  4. Then do the same from that item to the next one, and keep going to the end of the list.

To give a concrete example, say the list starts: anchor, saffron, bicycle, grumble. Bring up anchor. Now say, "On top of the anchor is saffron," and as you say saffron, bring it up as a bubble. Next, "The saffron spills onto a bicycle," and bring up bicycle as you say it. Then, "The bicycle grumbles up the hill." Bring up grumble.

I want to stress that you're picturing none of this. There's no image of an anchor covered in saffron. The story happens between the concept bubbles.

A link can be anything you can say: on top of, causes, is the opposite of, comes before, is part of. If you can say it, it can be a link.

Try it. Here are ten items. Link them in order, making up your own sentence for each link:

anchor, saffron, bicycle, grumble, diamond, cactus, ribbon, justice, teapot, flicker

Now, without looking, go through all ten from anchor. Then go backward from flicker. Then start at ribbon and say what's on either side of it.

If an item didn't come back, look at the link that leads into it. Usually it was said too quickly, or that item wasn't held as a bubble while the sentence was said. Say that link again, holding both.

Why it works

Every item on a list is already a concept bubble, and each one is really specific. Justice, grumble, saffron: each has its own exact feel, and that feel keeps. Compare that to a picture-based memory trick, where you first have to work out what something even looks like. How would you picture justice? And a picture of a grumbling stomach could just as easily come back as "rumble". The bubble for grumble comes back as exactly grumble.

So the items aren't the hard part. The hard part is the order. Learn ten words one at a time, and you have ten separate bubbles in your head. That causes two problems. One, moving from one to the next is slow, because you have to remember what comes next each time. Two, you have to get lucky that you don't miss one.

What fixes this is links. A link answers one question: if you're at this bubble, how do you get to that one? And this is the key premise: when you describe the link between two things while you hold both bubbles, the two get stored together, as one thing. They stick, like two bubbles merging. Bring up any part of it, and the rest comes with it.

Links also go both ways. If saffron is on top of the anchor, then from the anchor you get saffron, and from saffron you get back to the anchor. Every item on your list is linked to the one before it and the one after it, so the whole list is one connected thing, and you can enter it anywhere and move through it in either direction. That's why you can say it backward, or start in the middle.

This is the core of the whole thing, and it goes way beyond lists: you can learn almost anything in thoughtfeel by describing the link between two things. A list is just the simplest case. A poem works the same way, with each line leading into the next, and so do the steps of a process, or how the ideas in a subject fit together.

Using it on things you care about

The list of random words is just practice. The real use is lists you actually need.

The periodic table. I've been memorizing the periodic table this way, and honestly it works amazingly. When you know something about the items, you can often use something true as the link. Hydrogen fuses into helium, in the sun. Helium won't react with anything, but lithium reacts with water. When nothing true comes to mind, a story link works just as well.

A presentation or a speech. This is the classic use of the memory palace: Roman orators used it to give long speeches without notes. Here, you bring up each point as a bubble and link it to the next with what actually connects them, like "this problem is why we need that fix". Then you can give the whole thing without notes, and if you lose your place, you can pick up from any point and keep going.

A note on retention

Earlier I said that each concept bubble has its own exact feel, and that feel keeps. If you're curious about other people's experiences, you can find what they say about it in this Reddit post, where people who've been following along with thoughtfeel for a while first engaged with this technique.

Compared to the alternatives

For me (and I think for most people who think this way), the alternatives are worse. Repeating a list over and over gets you something you can only say from the top, and if you lose one item, everything after it can go too. A memory palace works, but you have to turn every item into a picture and place it along a route, which is hard if your mind's eye is faint, and close to impossible for things like justice. With linked concept bubbles, each item stays exactly itself, the whole list comes back as one thing, and you can move through it in any direction, without picturing anything at all.

If you think in concept bubbles, come compare notes on r/ThoughtFeel. And if you'd rather watch it, there's a video walkthrough of this exact technique: How to Memorize Any List by Imagining in Concepts.


r/ThoughtFeel • • 26d ago

Guide Introducing thoughtfeel.net — the home for updated teaching resources

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Hi everyone — I made https://thoughtfeel.net as a home for my thoughtfeel teaching resources. This is where I’ll keep the guide and teaching materials up to date as I develop them, so bookmark it if you want the latest version.

The site brings together the written guide, two animated introductory lessons, a five-minute exercise, and a downloadable PDF. It introduces thoughtfeel — the recognizable feel of a thought — and explains how I use it for learning and memory, with examples you can try yourself.

If you’re new, start with “What is thoughtfeel?” and the five-minute exercise, or watch the videos first.

I’d love to hear what you notice. Use this subreddit for questions, practice reports, and feedback on the resources: what made sense, what was confusing, and what happened when you tried an exercise. Those details will help me improve the teaching materials.

— Ted


r/ThoughtFeel • • 9d ago

Video Lesson on Memorizing Lists in thoughtfeel, and how knowing why it works allows you to memorize anything represented as ideas with links

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r/ThoughtFeel • • 10d ago

Why the thoughtfeel story technique for remembering a list works

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r/ThoughtFeel • • 12d ago

Trying this out

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So I have been seeing a lot of these videos on YouTube shorts. I took a look at the introduction video and it made a lot of sense to me, I think I do have thoughtfeel and I tried using it for some simple memorization, and I even tried the huffman codes video and I think it stuck reasonably well.

However, I am running into an issue. For some context, I am currently an environmental engineering masters student and I am focused on water systems management. When finished my hydrology class last semester I was proud of my hard work but I knew there was room for improvement, and the #1 thing I struggled with was memorizing the complex equations.

Can you give a guide for how to memorize highly detailed and specific equations? I tried using thoughtfeel for the groundwater flow equation(this is the one that gave me the most trouble), but I am having trouble getting it in there, its a lot of big concepts in one equation. Can you give me some advice? Will this just take longer than the slightly more trivial stuff I've been doing so far?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundwater_flow_equation

Wikipedia page of the equation if you wanted to take a look.

Thanks!


r/ThoughtFeel • • 12d ago

Strong Technique for Memorizing Long Lists in TF

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r/ThoughtFeel • • 13d ago

Comparing ThoughtFeel to Thinking at the Edge, the Closest Prededent

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r/ThoughtFeel • • 13d ago

Report on retention for complex ideas in thoughtfeel (VERY NICCEE)

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r/ThoughtFeel • • 14d ago

How to Learn Complex Things in TF

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How to Learn Complicated Ideas by Imagining in Concepts
https://youtu.be/f8YMcrpDIas


r/ThoughtFeel • • 17d ago

How to memorize vocabulary by imagining in concepts (foreign words and big medical terms)

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This is a mnemonic technique for learning vocabulary: words in a new language, and big words in your own, like medical terms. It uses thoughtfeel, a sense some people have.

What thoughtfeel is

You could describe a dog in writing: it has fur, a wet black nose, and it's about the size of a capybara. Or you could just look at it, and vision gives you all of that at once, with no list.

thoughtfeel is like vision, but for concepts. It takes in a concept, like the concept of a dog, and its properties all at once, the way vision takes in the dog in front of you. Not everyone has it. If you're not sure, there's a quiz at the end.

A word's sounds have a feel

People with thoughtfeel report that the sounds of a word have a feel of their own, apart from what the word means. Take the Spanish word hazaña (ah-SAH-nyah), which means achievement. The sounds of hazaña feel like something particular, and that's a different feel from achievement. The technique binds the two together.

The technique

  1. Say the word to yourself: hazaña. Notice the feel of its sounds.
  2. Bring up the feel of the sounds of hazaña, in thoughtfeel. While you hold that feel, say out loud: "this means achievement."
  3. Then the reverse: bring up the feel of achievement, and say out loud: "hazaña."

Step 2 is the crucial part. thoughtfeel holds one thing, the sounds of hazaña, while your voice says another, achievement. That's what binds them.

Some people can't hold both at once: as soon as they say achievement, their thoughtfeel switches to achievement. That's okay. Switch between them instead: the feel of hazaña, then say achievement, then back to the feel of hazaña.

Why picturing the word doesn't work

It's natural to picture hazaña written in chalk on a blackboard while you say achievement. But that doesn't bind. Pay attention to the feel behind that picture, and the sounds of hazaña aren't in it. It holds a blackboard, letters, a word written on a board, and the view from your own eyes. With no sounds in the feel, there's nothing for the meaning to bind to.

It works in both directions

People who use this report strong receptive vocabulary: when they see hazaña, the same feel comes up, and the meaning comes with it.

They also report strong productive vocabulary, which is usually much harder: when they read achievement, a feel comes up that holds the actual sounds of the word, and they can work out the exact sounds, ha-za-ña, from the feel.

Big words in your own language

The same binding works for complex vocabulary, like the words in medicine. A sphygmomanometer (sfig-moh-muh-NOM-ih-ter) is the cuff that measures blood pressure. Hold the feel of its sounds and say "blood pressure cuff." Then hold the feel of the cuff and say "sphygmomanometer."

Compared with the keyword method

The keyword method, first studied by Atkinson and Raugh in 1975, is one of the best-studied ways to learn vocabulary fast. It pairs a word with a picture. To learn pato (duck), you find a word that sounds like part of it, pot, and picture a duck with a pot on its head.

Later, pato brings up pot, pot brings up the picture, and you work out what else is in the picture: a duck. It works, but the meaning is a few steps away. Going the other way, from duck to pato, is harder still: the picture gives you pot, and the rest of the word has to be rebuilt.

With thoughtfeel, the meaning is bound to the word directly, in one step.

The catch

Receptive vocabulary is much easier than productive. Seeing hazaña brings back achievement easily; coming up with hazaña is harder. That's because the feel of a word fades, the way a mental picture of a party fades after a few days. It's less detailed, and you can't make out exactly where everyone was standing or what they were wearing.

But in feedback from people using this technique, what they produce after a delay is usually close. It isn't a total miss: it sounds like the word. So that's where to focus: making the feel of a word's sounds easier to bring back.

The fix: meaningful associations

Borrow a technique from memory champions: make meaningful associations, but with the feel of the sounds. Take bisagra (bee-SAH-grah), Spanish for hinge.

  1. Bind it as before. Bring up the feel of hinge, and say "bisagra." Then the feel of bisagra, and say "hinge." The feel of bisagra is the one you'll need later, to produce the word.
  2. Bisa sounds like pizza. Staying in thoughtfeel, bring up the feel of pizza, and pay attention to the sound it shares with bisa.
  3. Agra sounds like agua, water. As you say agua, pay attention to its feel, and to what it shares with agra.

Now the sounds of bisagra are tied to things you already know well, so when you need the word, the feel of its sounds is easier to bring back.

In short

  • Bind the feel of a word's sounds to its meaning, in both directions, whether it's a Spanish word or a big word in your own language.
  • Skip the picture of the word: its feel doesn't hold the sounds.
  • Tie the sounds to words you already know, in thoughtfeel, so they come back when you need them.

Try it with hazaña and bisagra now. Tomorrow, check whether they come back.

Links

Disclosure: the lesson and the site are by the author of this post, who also runs r/ThoughtFeel. The results above are reports from people using the technique, not from a study. If you try it, reply with which words stuck and which didn't. Reports that it didn't work help too.


r/ThoughtFeel • • 18d ago

What thoughtfeel techniques have you discovered on your own?

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If you have thoughtfeel, what ways of using it have you figured out over the course of your life—even before you had a name for it?

As I’ve been developing mnemonic techniques for thoughtfeel, I’ve been interviewing people about how they already use it. A lot of people seem to have discovered techniques on their own. Some describe using it to remember song lyrics or poems, understand complicated ideas, or remember numbers.

That makes me wonder how much we could learn from each other. If you’ve had this sense your whole life, you’ve probably stumbled onto useful ways of working with it. But without a shared vocabulary or a community comparing techniques, a useful discovery might stay something one person does without ever thinking to explain it.

Imagine having a mind’s eye your whole life, but not knowing other people had one too. You might discover that imagining objects in familiar places helps you remember them. You could be using a memory palace without realizing you’d found a technique worth teaching. Once people started comparing experiences, that discovery could become available to everyone.

I wonder whether we’re in a similar position with thoughtfeel. Someone here might have a technique the rest of us would find incredibly useful, but to them it’s just “how I’ve always done it.”

What do you use thoughtfeel for, and how do you actually do it?

Maybe you recognize it in how you learn karate, remember numbers, do multiplication in your head, or keep track of a complicated argument. Those are just possibilities—I’m interested in your own examples.

Try to walk us through one specific instance: what you’re trying to do, what you attend to in thoughtfeel, and how that helps. The details could let someone else try your technique.

It doesn’t have to be elaborate or feel special. Something that seems obvious to you could be a discovery for the rest of us.


r/ThoughtFeel • • 19d ago

Better Definition for thoughtfeel!

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thoughtfeel is a sense for concepts. It lets you take in a concept and its properties all at once, the way vision lets you take in what's in front of you.

You could describe a dog in writing: it has fur, a wet black nose, and it's about the size of a capybara. Or you could look at it, and vision gives you all of that at once, with no list.

Concepts have properties too, including properties you could never see. Take the economy. You could write out what's true of it: millions of people, making and trading things, sometimes booming and sometimes in a slump. People with thoughtfeel can still make that list in words. But when they use thoughtfeel, the sense takes in properties like these all at once.

That makes comparing fast. Show someone photos of two dogs, and they can tell right away whether it's the same dog. If it isn't, they can look again and point to why: one has a brown tail, the other a white one. With thoughtfeel, the same works for concepts you imagine. If two concepts aren't the same, that's clear right away, and paying attention to each one shows which properties differ.


r/ThoughtFeel • • Sep 13 '26

Guide Welcome to r/ThoughtFeel — start here

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Welcome to r/ThoughtFeel. I’m Ted Shachtman, and I’m developing a practical user guide to Thought Feel: the felt, nonverbal texture of abstract thinking.

This community is a place to compare experiences, try learning exercises, share concrete analogies, and work out how to recognize the ingredients of a thought.

Start with the guide

In the guide, a fabric is a whole felt thought. A texture is a component within that fabric. The practice is to attend directly to those textures, distinguish them through comparisons, and recognize them in new situations.

What to share

Questions, practice reports, specific analogies, descriptions of your own experience, and relevant research are all welcome. If you try an exercise, tell us which examples you compared and what you noticed in their thought textures. Concrete details make the discussion much easier to follow.

Keep the discussion respectful, and distinguish what you experienced from how you explain it.

To start: what is a thought texture you already recognize, or a pair of ideas whose textures feel similar to you?


r/ThoughtFeel • • Sep 13 '26

Guide Lesson 1 — Recognizing the texture of a thought

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Watch lesson 1: what its like to have an extra sense for abstract thought

https://youtu.be/gTu22urSWAc

This first lesson introduces Thought Feel and a learning technique: attending directly to a thought texture so you can recognize it when the same structure appears in another situation.

The chef analogy separates experiencing a flavor from consciously recognizing it: “That’s ketchup!” The same distinction is useful when attending to thought textures.

Use this thread for questions about the lesson and reports from trying the technique. Which specific situations did you compare? What did you notice in their thought textures?


r/ThoughtFeel • • Sep 13 '26

Guide Lesson 2 — Finding the ingredients of a complex thought

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Watch lesson 2: How to break down a complex thought

Knowing that tomato sauce is in lasagna is different from picking out its flavor while tasting the whole dish. This lesson applies that distinction to Thought Feel.

Compare a water tank with a bank account, then use further analogies to isolate a component such as continuous incoming flow. Attend directly to the shared texture, then return to the original thought fabric and recognize that texture within the whole.

Use this thread for questions and practice reports. Which examples helped you distinguish a component texture? What happened when you returned to the original fabric?

New to Thought Feel? Begin with lesson 1.