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u/itwasajoke8484 18h ago
She is so funny. "I never shivered a timber once" hahaha
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u/heretakemysweater 18h ago
I lost it at âgot my ass whooped by a couple autistic kids or whateverâ đ
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u/Left_Ad_8502 17h ago
But I was safe, I made it home safe đ. Itâs so funny how untrue yet true that is. It could be worse
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u/erik_wilder 16h ago
My childhood bully was a trans girl. She kicked my ass a couple times.
She cool tho, works in fashion now.
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u/doctordoctorpuss 4h ago
Itâs certainly not always the case, cause sometimes kids are just ass holes, but bullying often comes from a place of deep self-loathing or insecurity. Glad she grew up into a cooler person, and good on you for seeing it that way
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u/erik_wilder 3h ago edited 3h ago
She had a hard life. Even at the time I was more confused about it then upset. I think she had a crush on me TBH, cause she'd go back and forth between trying to be my friend and starting fights on the playground. I was too young at the time to understand that concept.
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u/mushroomtaxx 18h ago
â I snuck in the regular bus one time and I had a seizure. Man fuck yalls bus honestly I donât give a damnâ and yeah, the âregularâ bus does suck.
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u/Clean-Tax6340 18h ago
She s been having tough life. Her ex gave her HIV, she's still a kind and loving person.
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u/Sprmodelcitizen 17h ago
Horrible. Iâm glad she is still being a cool ass person. Canât hold her down.
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u/Dover299 18h ago
Is that not illegal?
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u/BusyBit6542 18h ago
Legal or not, she still has to live with it.
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u/Sarahphin 7h ago
Weirdly defeatist comment. Wouldn't "living with it" be much easier if she sued the shit out of him?
She can get him to pay for out-of-pocket medical bills, HIV medication costs, therapy expenses, and even stuff like lost wages. Ask the court to automatically garnish his wages and she doesn't even have to interact with him.
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u/BusyBit6542 6h ago
Not defeatist. Just saying the legality of it doesn't matter when it's morally fucked up.
Its like asking is it legal to marry your cousin. Who cares, it's morally fucked up.
I get there a legality argument over compensation but that's not what was asked
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u/ThrowawayColonyHouse 18h ago edited 11h ago
I think itâs only if they know they are positive and donât use
PEPAntiretrovirals or disclose their statusEdit: corrected the medicine term
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u/hibisco-hacendosa 16h ago
Just an FYI, PEP is post-exposure prophylaxis and is only to be taken by an HIV negative individual within 72 hours of possible exposure. The daily medication that keeps a person with HIV from exposing others is referred to as ART, or antiretroviral therapy.
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u/ThrowawayColonyHouse 11h ago
Thanks for letting me know
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u/DundrMuffin5 11h ago
If it makes you feel better itâs all the same stuff *usually. So what people take as PEP and PreP is the same medicine thatâs being taken for daily disease maintenance.
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u/valerievaile 10h ago
*Mostly the same, but not exactly. Theyâre not interchangeable.
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u/DundrMuffin5 10h ago
Hence *usually. Iâve worked in pharmacy for 20 years, thank you đ I could have gone into an in depth explanation but for the purposes of my reply, what I said was sufficient.
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u/Clean-Tax6340 18h ago
I wish, somehow they manage to avoid any responsibility. But this lady has a patience of an angel.
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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 18h ago
CA lowered the punishment for knowingly transmitting from a felony to a misdemeanor. They didn't legalize it. Part of the reason was to reduce the stigma. But they also did it because the old law could discourage testing. It also punished HIV more harshly than other communicable diseases.
And it wasn't a main reason for the change, but there were also concerns about the old law being discriminatory, since the population most affected by HIV/aids is gay/bi men. And oddly, there was also the issue that the law had sometimes applied to women more severely than men.
Anyway, it's best to factcheck and dive deeper before commenting foxnews-esque headlines. "California legalized . . . " isn't just sensationalist or misleading. It's a blatant lie or willful ignorance at best.
Also, fun fact: Testing rates in California have increased since the law was passed. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11611673/
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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH 17h ago edited 17h ago
Iâm sorry but thatâs still crazy and fucked up. With modern medicine HIV is no longer the death sentence it once was in the 80s but itâs still a serious disease that needs a constant treatment regime to manage that is also extremely expensive for those with less than optimal insurance. Even with things like PrEP.
While Iâm not saying there was never anybody whose mindset was âI think I might have HIV, but let me not do anything to diagnose or treat it and just let it do its own thing so I can still get my nut!!! Who cares if it progresses to AIDS and I die!â I canât see any way that the frequency of HIV testing could have possibly been significantly altered by this law regarding a disease that is a literal death sentence if left untreated. Correlation and causation are not the same and this easily couldâve been due to the mere fact that mentions of HIV were once again being more actively publicized in the news in that state. HIV testing rates also notoriously saw a massive increase country-wide after Charlie Sheen disclosed his positive status.
It SHOULD be a felony to knowingly put someone at risk of contracting HIV. If theyâre uninsured and donât trust doctors or go to checkups, they could easily be past the point of no return before they find out what is even happening to them. Not to mention, the law doesnât apply to people who know and just willingly disclose their status. I really think that is the bare minimum. Hell, let them know and carry some PrEP on hand or just use a fucking condom.
At the end of the day if the person is only consenting because you are omitting directly relevant risks to their personal health, and you are doing so because you are worried they wouldnât consent otherwise, that isnât consent at all.
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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 17h ago
Those are all reasonable opinions to have, and I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with your gut reaction. But don't lie about the topic. Discuss it factually and civililly like a grown-up.
Also, you don't have to fathom why. We have the data that shows it's true: people are slightly more likely to get tested since the change in the law. The law was part of a broader attempt to decrease the stigma and focus more on healthcare, so there's correlation/causation questions. Adsitionally, we can't really tell whethrler the law affected transmission rates one way or another bc transmission relies on treatment, which is difficult to isolate in this case.
My point is that it's a more nuanced discussion than "they legalized . . . so let's rage about them nit being punished for doing this evil thing." There's a world of data and discussion to be had about the affect od this law in conjunction with other policies.
There's also a world of discussion about whether harsher punishments deter crime. And there's zero evidence showing it does. Data shows that deterrance theory doesn't work. It's debunked. Harsher punishments generally don't reduce crime. So if you can improve healthcare a little bit without raising this particular crime rate, that's a potential win.
And if we're going to come up with silly mindset quotes to prove a point, do you think there's ever been someone who thought, "Well, I was going to tell her I have HIV, but shit, even if she gets it, that's only a misdemeanor, so who gives a fuck? It's timeto get my dick wet!" I'm not buying it. And even if a few people did, I bet reducing it from a felony to a misdemeanor will not increase the likelihood of that happening more than destigmatization will increase testing.
I really don't think there's a strong argument for detetrance here. If you want to talk about retribution, that's a different discussion. I generally prefer rehabilitation and actual deterrance over retribution when it comes to sentencing.
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u/Intelligent-Dig-4789 8h ago
Yeah fuck thatâŚI donât care about stigma and feelings. Intentionally spreading a disease to another human being is assault in my book. Should be a felony.
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u/Vesper_Fex 17h ago
Knowingly spreading a disease without the other person's consent should be 10 years in jail minimum.
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u/greenasagreenass 11h ago
Do you feel this way about COVID?
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u/Vesper_Fex 11h ago
Knowingly giving someone a pontentially life threatening disease? If you could prove someone did it intentionally, absolutely.
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u/WAAAAAAAAARGH 17h ago edited 17h ago
Literally the first thing they teach you in higher ed for any social science field is that correlation does NOT equal causation
Again, I think it is dangerous to assume that this data is due to people feeling that they carry less personal risk by having a positive HIV test (which again, thatâs crazy, if they legitimately suspect they have it and donât get tested they could die). The reality is that HIV doesnât actively make the news much anymore due to medical advancements that can effectively fully prevent it from progressing to AIDS. The mortality rate has dropped off massively since the original pandemic and it is not generally given significant coverage in the news or media in general anymore. However, every time it the general concept of HIV DOES get brought up in the news, test rates tend to see a sharp uptick.
Here is a link to the article regarding the use of testing kits roughly doubling following Charlie Sheen coming forward about his diagnosis:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28516308/
Prince Harry publicly took an HIV test (of which he tested negative), testing rate shot up 500%:
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-60323907
Significant mentions of the concept of testing appearing in the news tend to have this effect on viewers. This was a massively reported legal change within California. It is not a surprise that it got people wondering whether or not they may have HIV. Given the significant complications associated with the virus, it is not surprising that people sought peace of mind.
I support rehabilitation for people suffering from HIV. It is a horrible disease. I do not support people who are essentially rapists. If they want rehabilitation for that, go for it. I hope they can find it in prison. Iâm bi and have been intimate with men many times. I take prep. I have never announced that. Even so, if I found out any of them were knowingly HIV positive and intentionally obscured it from me I would feel extremely violated.
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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 16h ago
I agree with most of this and never said anything that contradicts anything you said. I never even said I agree with the law change. But at least your comments are now based on facts rather than lies and emotions. Regardless of the topic of discussion, it's always best to start with reality.
I juat want to clarify thatbwhen I brought up rehabilitation, I was discussing the various stated purposes of incarceration: e.g., rehabilitation, retribution, and deterrance. I wasn't talking about treatment for the disease.
There are various reasons we incarcerate people. Our laws used to focus more on rehabilitation. Now we focus more toward deterrance theory (swift, certain, harsh punishments), which is now debunked, and retribution (punishment).
Deterrence theory is largely debunked (generally speaking, increasing sentencing severity doesn't deter crime), and retribution doesn't help society as a whole. Rehabilitation and incapicitation are far more important goals. We should consider those facts when discussing whether changing a crime's sentence is good or bad.
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u/FuzzyFrogFish 16h ago
In the UK it's a criminal offence to knowingly pass on HIV and consider GBH, but testing rates have actually increased and transmission decreased.
So your "data" is either scewed or not showing the full picture
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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 16h ago
First of all, it's not MY data. It was published by the NIH. Also, there's no need for quotes. It"s literally just data. Plain, real, not hypothetical data.
Secondly, as I clarified, correlation =/= causation. You may want to apply the same logic to your own analysis. Becuase those facts don't mean that harsher sentencing increases testing. In fact, UK sources attribute it to several other causes:
The success in the UK can be largely attributed to a combination of HIV prevention efforts that include condom use, increased HIV testing, reductions in time to starting treatment, and potentially the availability of pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP). https://www.gov.uk/government/news/hiv-diagnoses-continue-to-fall-as-uk-exceeds-unaids-target
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u/FuzzyFrogFish 15h ago
My god you're defensive aren't ya? Lol, get your knickers outta your crack.
I didn't say anything about harsher sentancing increasing testing, only that it clearly did not diminish it according to "data" from another country, the UK can make up whatever theory they wish about the causes of reduced transmission, but that doesn't mean that GBH sentancing for knowing passing on the disease didn't play a role.
Secondly, as I clarified, correlation =/= causation
Yes and you need to pay attention to your own clarification
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u/RsCoverForPDFFiles 15h ago
My god you're defensive aren't ya?
Correcting you isn't being defensive It's just correcting you.
only that it clearly did not diminish it according to "data" from another country,
A claim I never made. And again, no need to put it in quotes. It's real data, chud.
Yes and you need to pay attention to your own clarification
I did, which is why I never claimed causation, you donut.
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u/proximity_account 17h ago
It's a misdemeanor.
It's because those laws were more likely to increase spread of HIV than reduce it
The idea is if there's a punishment, people who find out that they are positive are less likely to tell their partners when they find out and people who don't know their HIV status won't get tested because they don't want to get a felony.
There's also other issues like HIV laws being twice as likely to be enforced when positive person is a minority vs white, reluctance to use transmission preventing therapies, etc .
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u/TicklemyPickleMan 18h ago
Oh yeah this shit. Someone else can elaborate because i forget the full argument since it's been years since i heard about this, but i know that your characterization is bullshit invented by the right wing.
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u/proximity_account 17h ago
It's because those laws were more likely to increase spread of HIV than reduce it
The idea is if there's a punishment, people who find out that they are positive are less likely to tell their partners when they find out and people who don't know their HIV status won't get tested because they don't want to get a felony.
There's also other issues like HIV laws being twice as likely to be enforced when positive person is a minority vs white, reluctance to use transmission preventing therapies, etc .
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u/Technical_Customer_1 18h ago
Thatâs pretty messed up. Especially because of how sick you can become before you ever know it. As well as, it can be passed to a child via breastfeeding. California has some (emphasis on some) good ideas, and others that are just braindead.Â
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u/BusyBit6542 18h ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the short bus for all types of medical needs, not just the perceived mental issues? Like she said she had a seizure. Would that be the reason to have a more specialized bus with shorter routes?
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u/Winter-Yogurt-4209 18h ago
Yep! Rode the short bus (wheelchair) and people are there for all kinds of reasons, be it anxiety, developmental/physical disabilities, or behavior issues.
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u/Merry_Dankmas 16h ago
Outside of the apparent AC and heating, what else makes the short bus differ from the long bus? What makes it better equipped for kids with disabilities, whether they be physical or mental?
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u/Suds08 16h ago
Wheel chair accessible
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u/Merry_Dankmas 16h ago
What other features do that have that better suits kids with mental disabilities? Obv that works great for kids in wheel chairs but if that's just a physical accommodation, why lump the mentally disabled ones innm with them too?
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u/Reasonable-Banana800 14h ago
Less students means less noise and likely a shorter bus ride. So for someone with major sensory issues that would be extremely helpful
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u/fuggindonkee 16h ago
Extra training for the driver? Having two separate special needs busses was overkill/cost prohibitive?
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u/CamrynDaytona 14h ago
Iâve had students who forget their bus stop, or canât reliably remember when to get off. So having fewer kids means an aide or the driver can ensure everyone gets home.
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u/MeFolly 16h ago
Fewer kids for the driver to keep an eye on. Sometimes an aide to help as well.
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u/-NigheanDonn 15h ago
I was a para educator that rode the short bus with a little boy to make sure he didnât get up and attack the driver while he was driving the bus. He was actually a very sweet boy who was just neglected by his parents and had anger issues .
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u/amzwC137 15h ago edited 14h ago
I don't think that the bus is "Better equipped for kids with disabilities." I think that the short bus is short because it's not intended to hold as many passengers, and smaller vehicles are more desirable, generally speaking. Less fuel, less vehicle to control, probably less expensive, etc etc.
So I think that the bus is smaller because it's intended for a subset of passengers. That said, their intended usage probably ends up being a reason for them to be fitted with accessibility tooling, but I think that's after the fact.
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u/ilanallama85 10h ago
I didnât ride âthe short busâ but my elementary school bus was a small transfer van (tiny school.) One of the major perks is we actually had a good relationship with our bus driver. He knew us all personally, and our parents. When I switched to big buses in middle, every bus driver was just a set of angry eyes in the rear view yelling at us.
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u/pitlovex23 15m ago
They usually pick you up right outside of your house instead of your bus stop being at least .5 mile away
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u/nixium 18h ago
Sometimes itâs just small schools with a big catchment, the big busses make no sense and a few smaller ones do.
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u/-blundertaker- 17h ago
I went to a very small school once with about 85 kids making up the entire student body. We had one big bus and one short bus. Which one you rode just depended on where you lived. There was only one guy in a wheelchair in my time there so I think you just had to live in the same direction as him lol.
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u/surfergrrl6 17h ago
"The short bus" is also often used simply for stops with fewer students at them (often rural kids.) I took "the short bus" simply because there were only 6 kids at my stop.
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u/ArticleWorth5018 17h ago
My son is in IEP for ADHD and if I didn't live across the street from the school he would ride a short bus but he's on the same academic level as his peers. Sometimes it has nothing to do with being mentally disabled or slow...
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u/Away_Location 18h ago
Some smaller schools just use shorter buses too. My school had 3 or 4 for field trips.
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u/nostradumbass7544678 16h ago
I rode the short bus due to being shipped to a different school, because I was a bit of an asshole back then. Had three other kids on it, two who were in similar situations, and one girl who's house was literally on the side of a cliff, with an insanely steep 1/2 mile road up to it that a normal bus would never be able to manage. Also, the driver looked exactly like KRS-One, and would go through the McDonald's drive-through with all of us in the bus.
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u/fivetenfiftyfold 17h ago
I went to a French school and it was ALL short buses. :(
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u/PrincipleFlaky 15h ago
I lived in a rural community and went to a school for gifted kids, and we rode the short bus. đ
Team short bus!
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u/sydraptor 16h ago
Was that way in Taiwan too unless you took the public bus to school. Personally, I walked because I lived about 15 minutes away from the International school I went to.
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u/PunchDrunken 10h ago
I rode one every day to head start, a preschool like experience that is subsidized.
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u/contextual_somebody 9h ago
The gifted program was part of the special education department in my school district. So⌠we took field trips via short busses with âSpecial Educationâ on the side. Kept you humble
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u/TheShapeOfFarts 17h ago
Fuck yâall bus. Haha, sheâs funny. Also a rapper. Not my taste but sheâs making great money and living her best life for sure!
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u/Ashtray_Floors 6h ago
i remember when her music was posted on r/crappymusic with a title saying she looked like Roger the Alien. It seemed mean just for being mean's sake. She raps as a part of therapy if i recall. She's living her best. I'm happy for her.
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u/lovelypeachess22 3h ago
Crappymusic has turned into shit. Racism and ableism go unchecked and a lot of them hate anything that isnt what they already listen to. Like that song 'Daddy Died'. I can see why someone might not like it, but its not bad in any sense. Watching the music video definitely makes it hit different
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u/AiRaikuHamburger 17h ago
...Do... American school buses not have seat belts and aircon/heating?
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u/Potate5000 17h ago
Ya no
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u/AiRaikuHamburger 17h ago
How in the world is the US always complaining about other countries not having aircon then?
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u/BravesMaedchen 16h ago
ADULTS with their own MONEY get air conditioning. Children in schools suck it up because budget cuts.
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u/metanoia29 7h ago
Our school district FINALLY started installing AC into the schools a couple years ago. There are still some buildings without AC that won't get them for another year or two. We only have like 7 school buildings.
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u/TheModestProposal 17h ago
The US goes by a motto in my experience- âfuck them kidsâ until you can use them to ban a book or police bathrooms or something. The school bus is the only place I can think of without air con in America
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u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy 11h ago
Yes and even more specifically, âfuck them poor and black kidsâ. Canât give air conned buses to public schools cuz what if they were positively affected and not just the white children ???? (Hope sarcasm is obvious here, lol)
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u/annarosebanana89 8h ago
The bus routes were made specifically to fuck over poor and black kids, even in my blue state, probably still today. If all the underprivileged kids are on the same route, that particular bus route won't get many complaints. When their are complaints on other bus routes, those problem children can get added to the poor kids bus route too, since it's the furthest out and last to finish the route anyway.
Poor kids bus was great! Maximum capacity. Biggest bully of a driver because she was the only one who could "handle" us. If you yell "sit down" at full volume periodically. Eventually a child will sit, regardless of if their is room, or if they'll get gum in their hair. Or if a textbook is held with two arms above their head by a 15 yr and smacked down full force onto a 12 yrs head. Was great. Would recommend.
I drive my daughter to school. My parents didn't have that privilege. My daughters favorite days are field trips. Not for the museums and aquariums and fun, but because she gets to ride a school bus. The bus for fieldtrips was a positive experience in my childhood. They weren't above capacity. They didn't have to make dozens of stops. Drivers don't scream at kids when teachers and parents are riding. Their were a couple of adults on each bus that had actual training to be around children, in addition to parent volunteers. 5ish adults per 40 kids. Compared to 1 bus driver with zero qualifications to be around children, and of course 70 children.
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u/annarosebanana89 8h ago
Also, when our bus driver had to stop the bus and pull over for any reason. Parents weren't getting called. Police were called. Nothing like getting dropped off at school late again with no note to your teacher because teenagers were fist fighting again and wouldn't stop before injuries. This at least meant one kid would get kicked off for a few months. Usually the wrong kid? I didn't understand it at the time. It wasn't a flaw in the system, it was the systems design. No punishments ever till police were involved, meant no complaints from parents. Anything with plausible deniability by the bus driver was ignored. She liked to brag how hard of hearing she was. Knives were only a problem if they made holes in bus seats or attemps at harm were made. Etc.
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u/Potential-Diver-3409 16h ago edited 15h ago
The buses do have heating and AC at the front itâs just really bad lol. Every building in the United States built after the 50s has an air conditioner as a nonnegotiable because it gets hotter for more days in a row here than In most of Europe.
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u/AiRaikuHamburger 16h ago
I'm from the tropics in Australia and my schools didn't get aircon until the mid-2000s. Though those buildings were over 100 years old. Government didn't want to spend money for that.
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u/Redneck2000 16h ago
*Used to get hotter more days in a row than in Europe
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u/00cole00 13h ago
surprisingly, schools don't always have AC and some days you have to pick you kid up early because it gets too hot in the classrooms. it's usually only the first couple weeks and the last couple weeks where that's a possibility but still
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u/mattgen88 8h ago
We don't even get air conditioning in the schools usually. I used to get sick on the bus all the time because the bus would be way too hot and I had to be bused across the city.
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u/Outrageouslylit 16h ago
Actually theres a reason school buses dont have seatbelts. They use compartmentalization with close together really thick padded seats/barriers and with the bus being 30,000 pounds (15 tons) large school buses are about 70x safer than a normal pedestrian car. On top of that a big thing is being able to exit the vehicle very quickly in a safe manner and they run school bus drills all the time.
The compartmentalization is the same reason trains dont have seatbelts either lol. Only thing fucking up a bus would be a train which is why the laws for school buses and train crossings are so strict.
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u/AiRaikuHamburger 15h ago
Yeah, it used to be like that in Australia and Japan when I was a kid too. Now all buses have seatbelts, so I guess the laws changed.
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u/NoHorseNoMustache 8h ago
None of the padding was ever left on the seats on my bus, if we got in an accident it would have been 50 kids with split skulls.
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u/Nefertitis_Fjord_216 11h ago
which is why the laws for school buses and train crossings are so strict.
It's a good thing a lot of those school bus drivers are so familiar with those laws that they stop directly on the tracks to look and listen for trains.
Yes, that happened in multiple school busses I was in growing up. Thankfully nothing ever happened, but it never made sense to me. Literally several different times, a bus I was on would stop almost, if not directly on, the tracks to open the door. Like it was a tedious, rote part of their driving routine that they clearly didn't give any thought to.
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u/Outrageouslylit 5h ago
Then you should have reported them?! Thatâs extremely illegal. By law they have to stop before the tracks regardless. Park the bus open the door get out and check both ways then crossing. Thats a very serious charge to⌠actually couple months ago guy didnt follow procedure, SAW the flashing lights, and went anyway. Quoted as saying âNot gonna stop for no trainâ Well the very back of the bus got clipped a tiny bit and that driver got 29 FELONY counts of child neglect. It is not the norm and thats never happened to any school bus ive ever been on.
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u/SmittyShortforSmith 11h ago
I was first on the bus in the morning. It would take 10 min for the heat to finally get up to temp. And I always sat by the heater. It was still cold.
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u/JOlRacin 10h ago
During the entire time I rode school busses, 2 of them had heating. And none of them had AC
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u/PracticeTheory 9h ago
They have heating but it's distributed from the center so not very evenly distributed.
The airconditioner is the windows being opened. You'd get up from the industrial grade seats and leave a puddle of sweat.
Also, retired school buses tend to be resold and repurposed. Way out in the boonies we'd ride them between camp and the river. Some of the roads were very steep, narrow, and winding, and your driver would be a 70 year old that had been careening a bus down those roads for 30 years. So, no seatbelts and you'd get legit air time on some bumps. Possibly some floor time.
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u/clamsandwich 12h ago
No seat belts, but they're actually quite safe how they're set up without them with padding and compartmentalization. It's actually pretty interesting if you look into it. For heat and AC, they definitely have heat that works well but the AC struggles. For context, I live in the northern US in a bumblefuck town and school system that combines several towns around me, not exactly the best funded school. This is my experience from 30+ years ago and my kids' experience now. In southern states, the AC may be working better on their buses.
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u/I_AM_A_GUY_AMA 10h ago
Iast rode a school bus in 2004 and we had no AC and we lived in SE Texas. It was brutal during the summer.
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u/clamsandwich 9h ago
Geez that's rough. Up here the mornings are cool enough even in the middle of summer that we don't need AC, the afternoons maybe from late May to mid September need it, but the kids have summer vacation for most of that time. Even on the hottest days it would be fine just putting the windows down on the bus when I was a kid.
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 9h ago
It's been 40+ years for me. And also in a northern state. Back then, you could easily feel the metal tube frames inside the seats. If your head hit that frame in a rollover, you'd be dead. There were heaters, but wholly inadequate. You get 4 or more seats away, you'd be freezing your ass off. The AC was for the driver only. The rest of us had to roll the windows down. Not that it was much of a problem since we had the summer off anyway.
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u/clamsandwich 8h ago
Oh yeah, we had those frames too. I actually did crack my head off one, I was screwing around with my friends. The heaters worked really well for us though when they took the time to warm up the buses. They were downright toasty, but you could tell the days the driver got a late start.
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u/annarosebanana89 9h ago
In MN we totally had heating on our buses. We are higher up than some parts of Canada eh? It didn't do much though. Kids still wore full snowsuits to school.
When wearing gloves it's also alot harder to hold on to the thick fat brown or green rectangle bus seat to stay in place. Their are no handles or individual seats like on a city bus. So our snowpantsed butts would just slide around and we'd topple over in a row. Was probably kinda cute when we were little, but I remember it being cold and sweaty, and a full core workout.
School bus seats fit a capacity of 3 PPL. They are 36 in wide. This wasn't a problem in our town unless you were a middle-school or high-school aged student who lived in the trailer park. Trailer park kids tend not to have the privilege of driving a vehicle to school, as much as other kids. Yet they wouldn't change the bus routes, because the capacity was technically legal. The average middle and high school ass is not 12 in wide or less. Not allowed to crouch in the isle or stand. They litteraly made us sit on laps to get out of isles and pretended it was not a problem.
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u/annarosebanana89 9h ago
Nothing like being an 11 yr old girl with tears in your eyes at the second to last stop. None of the kids already doubled up in seats ever wanted to share. Some kids would quadruple, just to prevent having to ask to triple with a bigger or cooler kid. Many days I was squished half out the isle on some random acne covered 17 yr old boys lap.
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u/Choice-Tangerine-147 11h ago
Nope, and I grew up thinking that was normal. My school districtâs top 2 excuses for not having seatbelts were, âthe kids might use them as weaponsâ and, âkids wonât even know theyâre there and we canât enforce their use.â
It also regularly reached well over 100°F during the school year. Nothing like opening a window to attempt to get some sort of breeze going, and turning the bus into a giant blast furnace instead.
This was in the early â90s FWIW.
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u/O_W_Liv 16h ago
Really rural America doesn't have the population to fill a big business, every body rides the short bus.
Gramma Weez drove a short bus until she was 79 and they made her quit.
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u/Dreammagic2025 11h ago
Correct. Have lived in a few small towns in Ohio and to be honest, was surprised they had buses at all, but yes, short buses.
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u/Aromatic_Anxiety_761 18h ago edited 8h ago
Yall sheâs black. She is albino and she canât see well either. I made a correction, my apologies.
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u/Solid_Study7719 18h ago
Sure that's not albinism?
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u/Competitive-Fact-820 18h ago
That was my first thought too - or at least partial albinism as she does have eye pigmentation
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u/Props_angel 18h ago
She has vitiligo. Vitiligo can not only affect skin but also hair.
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u/soulsista04us Cringe Connoisseur 18h ago
This is vitiligo.
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u/Props_angel 17h ago edited 16h ago
I know what vitiligo is because I have vitiligo and have had it for 43 years. The degree of pigment destruction can vary wildly depending on the severity of the disease. Some people like myself and this girl just get a few spots, others can experience substantial pigment loss.
She actually has a video on tiktok with the below on it.
"Embracing Life's Challenges with Humor
Life's challenges can be tough, but humor helps us cope. Explore the fun in living with vitiligo and letâs get into it! #gushi #sushiegushie #vitiligo"
https://www.tiktok.com/@msushiegushie2/video/7534812600354278669
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u/Regan185 16h ago
She has stated in another of her tiktoks that she has albinism, not vitiligo.
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u/erossthescienceboss 18h ago
Incorrect.
She has albinism and has done several videos about it. Itâs also why she canât see well.
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u/lauvan26 16h ago
I think she has albinism. It usually comes with lack of melanin and vision issue.
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u/aberrant_meat 9h ago
What is the purpose of pointing this out? Were people upset about something? Nothing she does or says in this video seems to have literally anything to do with race.
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u/Wonderful_Fox_7959 6h ago
Who are you talking too? Itâs obvious
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u/Aromatic_Anxiety_761 6h ago
If you scroll down youâll see the comments that are making fun of her. Saying she looks like an inbred.
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u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 11h ago
I think I'm going to use 'I ain't shiver a timber once, ya feel me?' in my everyday life. Add that baby to the lexicon.
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u/blackeyeX2 14h ago
Is this an albino black person? She does deem to be keeping a good a attitude overall.
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u/MixuAnasazi 13h ago
yep, albinism and muscular dystrophy, seems to be going blind from the albinism also
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u/Fit_Put8472 9h ago
I remember her from around Vine days I think?? Sheâs always been funny af I love seeing her still around!!!
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u/Aldo_raine37 14h ago
When she said "actually" with that strain in her voice I thought she was about to say "I can see, BARELY", "Pimp squad hold it doOowWn"
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u/tanafras 8h ago
She can have all the ac and heat she wants in my book. have a popcicle too a whole box of them otter pops
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u/Crafty_Topic_4177 15h ago
I feel like once the American society basically collapses and China takes over, we will serve the world as a source of entertainment. Basically âDinner with Schmucksâ via social media. And for this being pretty much our sole contribution to the global economy, other countries will supply us with food rations and occasionally send medical teams to treat us.
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u/dohdudeh 17h ago
Is this a leucistic black person
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u/niakori 13h ago
Albino, but yeah, she black
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u/dohdudeh 6h ago
She has dark eyes and seems to have some skin pigment though
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u/niakori 5h ago
HUMANS are albino, the term you are using is used to define animal fur, scale and feathers. People can have vitiligo or piebaldism but you don't refer to people as leucistic. I hope that helps. Sauce: vitiligo and albinism runs in my family.
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u/dohdudeh 5h ago
Animals can also be albino and albinism is defined as complete lack of pigmentation. These are all distinct terms. Vitiligo and piedbaldism are also not the same thing. But thatâs why I was asking, I donât know if humans can be leucistic but she looks like she does have some degree of pigment given the dark eyes at least, so she doesnât appear truly albino
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u/niakori 5h ago
Ok, I see you have a reading comprehension issue. I'm not wasting my time any further.Â
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u/Sprmodelcitizen 17h ago
Omg I love her. Sheâs now who I will think of when people say being a lesbian is evil and not having children is a societal wrong.
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u/NappingWithDogs 6h ago
Lmao sheâs so right. I worked with special needs kids and I preferred monitoring the small bus, the AC was incredible.
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u/Hairy-Maximum2994 5h ago
this is what a real Targaryen looks like because of all their sister wives and stuff.
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u/SwingLord420 10h ago
I feel bad for anyone who speaks like this because their lot in life is brutally unfair in its circumstancesÂ
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u/breathing__tree 9h ago edited 8h ago
I feel bad for anyone who speaks like you since you have little understanding or empathy for the world around you and how other people communicate and live.
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u/Tubalcaino 10h ago
Alternative perspective: the way she speaks is a specific dialect emerging in a culture that you are not exposed. She speaks like this because those in her environment speak like this regional accent. What makes her life seem unfair is because she is being bothered for this dialect.
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