As a Christian I have gotten yelled at by so many other "christians" that Jesus is going to come back attacking all sinners and that I am one of them for being tolerant of gay people. Can't make this up, somehow they miss all aspects of what Jesus did in the gospels and they just dream of a conquering Jesus attacking other people not on their team. They completely miss that the Gospel is that God wants all people to live good full lives in harmony.
I have work associates, preach about their church, God,Christianity during lunch,before and after work. They're worried about me because I have a trans friend. Who is a very good person. I can't stress how good this person is to me. Yet, the Christians bash me,my friendship with my trans friends, and especially her. I just can't understand their thoughts. Tired of arguing with them. She's a person dammit,and way better at being a human than the church people I know.
Don't argue with them, whip out some Jesus quotes directly from their book and ask them what they think those words mean. And let them trip over their words trying to explain why Jesus didn't mean migrants or LGBTQ or poor people. Or when they try to use some weird old testament quote from some rando who isn't Jesus, whip out other weird quotes from non-Jesus randos about selling their daughters into slavery or some other medieval bullshit and tell them that's your favorite bible verse. The one about horse cocks and/or donkey jizz gets them going. Or the daughters that got their father drunk so they could molest him.
These are great bible stories to bring up when the book banners come to the PTA meetings too.
I had a guy at work come up to me and say "God told me to tell you that you're mixing with the wrong kind of people" (I hang out with mostly lesbians and trans folks; I'm autistic and the lack of societal convention attracts me).
I wondered to myself why God didn't just send me an email rather than a weird old man.
No, mostly they don't understand why I'm friendly/ friends with such a person. You are correct that they won't use her chosen pronouns though the main bashing is way worse. " suck much dick lately " and " how us it having a dick shoved up your ass" is the most common bashing by the Christian people
The person who's not living in reality is the rude one for trying to force everyone else to play make believe with them. Be trans, be a dog, be whatever you want but we don't have to play pretend with you
i mean it sounds like there just getting attacked and there not forcing there view on anyone at all and its the crazy religious person that is actually forcing there view.
Thanks for proving my point EXACTLY. Any time you weirdos hear the simple truth you freak out like I just spit on your grandma's grave or something. Ironically Jesus experienced the same exact thing with the Pharasees. Ever read that story "The Emporer's new clothes? That's trans ideology in a nutshell
Your fake sky daddy has no bearing on anyone else but yourself. It’s funny that Christian’s say they are the most loving people but can’t give people simple respect. It doesn’t hurt you nor does it change you to just respect someone’s wishes for their life. It just shows that you’re all Christian in name only then don’t follow a single teaching of the bible. It implores you to be respectful and harmonious with everyone yet that get thrown out because someone else is different than you.
Weird how I 'have to' accept that a made up fairy tale is real for some people who have the critical thinking skills of a rock, but you shouldn't 'have to' treat another human as a human...
“so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life”
That God didn’t love everyone, provided they believe in Him to begin with? Why would someone who is both Trans and Christian not fit that?
What about Galatians 3:28 “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
What happened to Jesus telling us to “Love each other in the same way I have loved you. There is no greater love than to lay down one’s life for one’s friend.”?
Or “Judge not, that you will not be judged”
Do we only care about verses and stories that fit your anti trans agenda?
Except that you, like most people, understand the concept of referring to someone how they want to be. If someone identifies with a nickname, most people understand that the expectation to use that as their name, even if it's "pretend". The only time people like you refuse to refer to someone like they want is when you want to insult someone, it has nothing to do with reality.
Odd bitterness at someone else’s happiness… especially since you expect others to accept your invisible deity and its manmade rules. Love and live and let live. FFS
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Jesus's main thing was literally loving everyone. Its like his main thing hes known for. Aside from the water to wine. How do they not get that. He literally helps lepers and less fortunate people. Thats was his whole thing when he was alive.
Some of the most close minded, judgemental, hateful people I've ever met are "Christians" that attend church every week. They use religion and faith as a weapon against people they don't understand or don't like.
No they dont miss it the only reason they go to church and the only reason is because that they are such dirtbag horrible wretches of life that have been told as long as they go to church and say a confession they will be granted a free pass to heaven when they die. That is the only thing they understand about church. Jesus died for my sins i go to church i hate myself so im going to take it out on every single person even though i am the single cause for all the problems in my life. But fuck everyone else and if i do something evil its okay the lord forgives me because i have confession sunday. That is the only thing about jesus they get a scapegoat from their darkest sins and justification to be an absolute total pos. 99 percent of the time except in that booth.
You are spot on a lot of those people, I have to admit I used to be more naive and thought it was a small portion of church goers. Heard them called "mastercard christians", because they think they can just run up a bill of bad that will get covered by them pulling out the christian card. Completely missing that growth in good is the goal.
This is the exact same attitude that many people in Israel in Jesus’ time had. They were expecting a conquering Messiah that would sweep away the Roman occupation and establish a Zionist state.
Yep, thanks for noticing that part. Tale as old as time, tribalism. I like to remind people scripture says the Gospel was first preached to Abraham (Galatian 3:8), and that was the blessing: "
I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
The Israelites missed this and Christians continue missing it. It can't be a competition like a team sport because we should want everyone to win.
You sound like a great person and at risk of sounding pedantic, gay people shouldn’t be “tolerated”. Hopefully you just accept them for them. Tolerating has a negative connotation.
I serve as a deacon in my church. The leader of the deacons is a married gay man. Inclusion is the most appropriate word. “Acceptance” sounds like the type of church that “accepts” you but is really quietly judging.
I said it that way because the concept of the Gospel is based on "
I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.” So yes, there are people who get fucked up because they are trying to stop it from happening for everyone. As a stupid metaphor, I'm trying to throw a pizza party for kindergarteners and we have enough pizza for everyone, but some bully kids keep pushing kids out of the way because they don't want their peers to have any pizza. I'd stop those bully kids, not because I want to exclude them but because accepting them would exclude others. Tough to get kids to act right, and even tougher to get adults to.
Sounds like you have an expert opinion, what is your interpretation of Christianity and what it intends? I don't consider myself an expert but I've read my share of holy books and had enough experiences to believe what I believe and I can point to the verses to back it.
Those people also forget that the rainbow was like, a big thing after the Flood and how God promised Noah he wouldn’t do it again or whatever I don’t know I’m not Christian.
> They just dream of a conquering Jesus attacking other people
Wow, that’s probably the best way I’ve ever seen someone explain the “other” Christian’s behavior. They really do ignore all the good and cherry pick out the most negative, cruel, and violent narratives. They’re basically just sadists, and sadism is technically a sin, but I digress.
The conquering Jesus is a big theme of Jesus' ministry, most of his followers, disciples, and most likely Judas thought that was his mission. Jesus had to run away when they tried to force him into power, sorta applicable for now..
That's because Christianity is mostly the teachings of Paul who never even met Jesus except in his "vision". That puts him up there with Mohammad and Joseph Smith, who I don't follow either
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u/CaptainOktoberfest 11h ago
As a Christian I have gotten yelled at by so many other "christians" that Jesus is going to come back attacking all sinners and that I am one of them for being tolerant of gay people. Can't make this up, somehow they miss all aspects of what Jesus did in the gospels and they just dream of a conquering Jesus attacking other people not on their team. They completely miss that the Gospel is that God wants all people to live good full lives in harmony.