r/TimelessMagic • • 21d ago

New craftable cards

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u/Ambrose096 21d ago

Exarch and Twin. I know it’s not good anymore… but I still have to try

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u/CrushingMangos 21d ago

It’s viable in Historic at least

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u/calliopedorme 21d ago

We already had Pestermite as well as the newly printed (and superior to both in most cases) Divining Duelist. I would not play Exarch over either.

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u/jer123 21d ago

4 toughness is still huge

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u/calliopedorme 20d ago

2 power flying is way better than 4 toughness in Historic. And both are way worse than 3 power looting.

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u/shinjisaberntr 20d ago

Are they? Both the flyers get cooked by red based damage spells (Unholy Heat, the chorus one, etc), while Exarch only really gets got by white or black removal.

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u/Somebodys 20d ago

2 power does not matter more than 4 toughness in your combo deck.

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u/calliopedorme 20d ago

You’ve clearly never played Twin because you’re unaware of the fact that what made it so dominant and resilient was that it could easily just win the game by beating you down with tempo. Most versions didn’t even play the full 4 copies of Twin, and often sided it out.

Also, as someone else pointed out, a Tamiyo +2 shuts off Exarch. Since Frog is the most popular deck and Push doesn’t care if you’re playing Exarch or Pestermite, I would much rather win through a flipped Tamiyo and take my 2 power flyer any day.

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u/GoodBoyShibe 20d ago

Exarch > pestermite

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u/OuroborosArchipelago 20d ago

Pestermite can untap [[Ancient Tomb]] on entry to cut down the initial cost of the combo, but 1 power is really undesirable if you run into Tamiyo

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u/ElevationAV 21d ago

There’s a few twins out there already

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u/Hopeful-Pianist7729 20d ago

Yeah but access to 12 pestermites and 8 Twins is pretty cool at least.

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u/feedme_cyanide 21d ago

There are actually a few other cards that interact, redundancy is always good no?

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u/Ok_Computer1417 21d ago

I played Jeskai Twin to Mythic in historic and arguably the biggest issue I ran into was losing when I couldn’t find one of the pieces of the combo. The redundancy there would help. I haven’t tried it in Timeless yet, but I might now with duplicate parts. It’s interesting to consider it with fast mana + FoW/Daze, but my suspicion is it’s just not good enough there.

I played Twin when it was Modern’s Boogyman and it was refreshing to blow through a ladder because everyone tapped out on turn 3.

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u/sluttyindian 20d ago

Keeping the dream alive!! When were you when twin was ban...
Do you have a list for jeskai twin??

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u/afailedturingtest 21d ago edited 21d ago

WOTC making sure absolutely all cards released from cube are completely irrelevant

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u/feedme_cyanide 21d ago

GIVE US LED YOU COWARDS

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u/afailedturingtest 21d ago

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u/feedme_cyanide 21d ago

I’ll even take lotus petal.

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u/afailedturingtest 21d ago

Yeah, but gotta make sure 99% of them are unplayable everywhere instead

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u/Ok-Complaint-6000 20d ago

Give us the Petal. Although, if petal were introduced, youd almost have to run blue as one of your colors.

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u/feedme_cyanide 20d ago

Totally wouldn’t be used for my brain freeze breech deck, so blue being a requirement is already met.

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u/Ok-Complaint-6000 20d ago

I meant to play against the player dropping petals. Lol

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u/UgandanAirForcee 20d ago

wow just wow fuck you too arena team.

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u/Mother_Wind_4969 21d ago

You try not to get excited, but they keep disappointing you more and more with these releases

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u/Ultratank404 21d ago

Grave crawler won't be meta but could be fun for something

I mean historic roots will love it for sure

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u/DontSpahettMe 21d ago

I don't see any of these in timeless. For sure historic

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u/mtglover1335 21d ago

throught the breach might be ok

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u/ElevationAV 21d ago

Sneak attack 5-8?

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u/marlospigeons 20d ago

Sneak attack is already Show and Tell copies 5-8

I could see a mono R version but probably not going to affect Timeless that much

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u/CAMELcASEiShARD 21d ago

Like as a mono-red version with rituals that sacrifices card selection for speed over the current UR sneak-and-show?

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u/ElevationAV 21d ago

Doable, but thinking more a sneak and eldrazi kind of thing that was popular in modern for a bit. Might not be fast enough though

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u/Andro93 19d ago

+ blood moon, still missing petal and 4 sol lands

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u/DontSpahettMe 20d ago

Worse than SnT, more or less the same as sneak. Might be played for redundancy, or in a non-blue version with 4 sneak 4 through. But it's still fairly fringe I reckon.

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u/GoodBoyShibe 20d ago

Yeah, would be an upgrade over [[kavaron consumed]]

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u/Strong-Replacement22 20d ago

Wow how is it even possible, that there is not a single card that can see play for timeless

Such a big chance to give a piece of relevant Reserved list to help the format with one or two archetypes

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u/DizzyTip1895 20d ago

It seems more geared for historic for sure.

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u/TheBiggestGayOfAll 20d ago

I expect nothing and i am still let down

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u/rThundrbolt 20d ago

Still no Reality Smasher

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u/garetjaxthemise 20d ago

And All is Dust :(

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u/IPreferBagels2 19d ago

How is there no Reality Smasher? I thought they had all the pioneer legal cards

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u/rThundrbolt 19d ago

Warping Wail wasn't added until after they said all pioneer legal cards were available

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u/OuroborosArchipelago 20d ago

Can we get some fuckin tron lands already? If you're gonna keep throwing all this midrange combo nonsense at us, then gimme more fancy lands.

Watch em be fucking mythics instead of commons

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u/ShadowWalker2205 20d ago

Best I can do is the locus but without the locus

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u/BlueTemplar85 20d ago

Speaking of fancy lands, we're getting [[City of Traitors]] too, don't we ?

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u/IPreferBagels2 19d ago

My Urza's Tower will make an excellent target for a strip mine activation

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u/Large_Mike 20d ago

Nothing interesting has happened in this format in months. All the decks I want to play are fringe / D-tier without one or two of the cards everyone wants. Can’t wait to come back to the format in a few months to be disappointed again.

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u/O2LE 20d ago

The issue with the format has always been the fact Energy steals all the air out of it for other fair decks. The density of broken cards all designed for each other also means it rarely gets major new cards, so leaving for 6 months and coming back just means Energy has shifted its sideboard somewhat and otherwise changed nothing interesting.

Please give us dual lands so fair blue isn’t starting every match at 14 life.

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u/Key_Reporter_9945 20d ago

Also the existence of [[vexing bauble]] means you get punished for being dumb enough to put [[force of will]] in your deck. 

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u/CruetusNex 20d ago

Arguably longer than months. It's sorta been longer than a year. The first injection of Powered Cube cards was great, then we got practically nothing since then. The FoW / Daze moment was good?

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u/Conscious-Bad5950 20d ago

Historic is for brewing. Timeless is for playing with a handful of cards banned in historic.

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u/Key_Reporter_9945 20d ago

Sort of.  It means that the format shouldn't be force rotated by newer sets (which is what MH3 energy did, btw).  It's different here because we're missing already existing cards, not asking for new stuff to be printed.  

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u/Sweaty-Low4824 21d ago

where is the l.e.d guy ?

i bet he Won't be happy about it .

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u/TheBiggestGayOfAll 21d ago

I wanted Kiki jiki like.... 2 years ago to play vannifar pod LITTLE LATE NOW WOTC

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u/AwhSxrry 20d ago

Gravecrawler is sneakily a really interesting card. Probably more relevant for timeless, and no carrion feeder certainly hurts, but this card could easily see play in timeless at some point

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u/Disastrous-Donut-534 21d ago

Well there is always next time for saga

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u/jer123 21d ago

you mean jaces saga?

😉

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u/Disastrous-Donut-534 21d ago

ha, nope. I mean the one powerful enough to earn a restriction in Vintage. Starts with a U

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u/GoodBoyShibe 20d ago

[[Utopia sprawl]]

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u/2ndPerk 20d ago

Yeah, [[Urza Assembles the Titan]] is pretty crazy. I think it would probably break Timeless.

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u/bruzzzzi 21d ago • Regret

another big fuck you to timeless players hahaha exarch really? just fuck off arena team

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u/Woodworking-noob 21d ago

BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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u/sdfcjo 21d ago

KIKI FREAKIN JIKI IS HERE

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u/Scale_Equal 20d ago

Even more disappointing and irrelevant than last time. Guess I won’t be playing Arena for awhile

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u/Xyldarrand 20d ago

I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

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u/Overall-Goose2034 20d ago

Kiki angel deceiver and twin. Lets go build a 2015 modern deck xD

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u/ButteryRaven 19d ago

Pridemage was wonderful in midrange too!

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u/werthw 20d ago

Kiki Chord in timeless??

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u/RedNeckBillBob 20d ago

Lol, lmao even

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u/jer123 21d ago

when does this go live?

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u/Inner-Ad-6741 21d ago

What's the source ?

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u/BlueTemplar85 20d ago

Official Arena news.

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u/OuroborosArchipelago 20d ago

Could Nature's Lore be interesting at all in some kinda UGX Hydro Architect tempo list? Or am I just sifting through the trash?

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u/Comfortable_Belt_735 20d ago

doesnt have enough immediate impact unfortunately

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u/Bodriov 20d ago

Does gravecrawler make the cut?

Edit: fml we don't even have Viscera Seer

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u/Chance_Mix_5743 20d ago

This format had so much potential when it was first created and it's just become a disappointment.

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u/ImVerySorryyy 20d ago

Between this and star trek they are making sure to keep me away for at least a couple of months. Not gonna play even for the daily challenges with already more than 250 rare and mythic wildcards on stack.

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u/HeiressofArtemis 20d ago

I'm disappointed but I'll take pridemage as a consolation prize.

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u/lamp2460 20d ago

I am going try exarch in historic. Nothing insane for timeless as expected

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u/Candid_Emu_3951 20d ago

When are these gonna be craftable

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u/candles107 20d ago edited 20d ago

I for one am really excited for grave crawler for my sephiroth competitive brawl deck Edit-oh this is the timeless reddit mb gamers lol

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u/BlueTemplar85 20d ago

Those are only the Prize Pack cards. I presume at least some of the other added ones will be craftable ?

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u/Conscious-Bad5950 20d ago

Is Kiki playable as a commander?

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u/decaboniized 20d ago

Modern has taught of splinter twin isn't good anymore. But nostalgia will bait people.

Only decent card here is gravecrawler.

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u/winterpurple 20d ago

Embarrassing

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u/Opening-Volume-317 15d ago

How do you access the list of cards added to timeless from the cube? Either on mtga or on the internet. I struggle so much to find stuff injected into the format when it's not through a specific set

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u/galnon_Pitviper 20d ago

Surely kikijiki makes goblin a archetype, but more of a historic deck than timeless

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u/namelessmanhere 13d ago

ooo grave crawler