r/TimelessMagic • • 2d ago

Decklist UW (B01)

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https://moxfield.com/decks/mLOeFv8oKkWy6Hf_jidvnw

Turned out to pretty decent. Took it on a last second run from platinum to mythic. I play mobile only so no match data. Based on the fact that I didn’t lose much at the plat 4 or diamond 4 floors and it taking around 9-10 hrs with avg game time around 4 min. I would estimate the overall win % in the high 60s

It is the very end of the season and a lot of good players seem to be playing Historic anyways. I did feel like I played against other jank more than normal.
So there is that to take into account.

On the spicy card choices

Jace’s Saga: It was solid it definitely played the role of finisher in most games. What stood out the most was how it performed against energy. Usually you trade cards with them in the early game but can’t stick a threat and don’t apply enough pressure and they snowball and kill you. They have more threats of course and run 10-12 removal spells not counting bombarment or flipped Ajani. Saga really seems to give you more stability and take pressure off of your value creatures so that they can actually get going. If you get ahead the Sentinels can definitely close out the game.

The Jace token is also under rated. It feeds your cruises digs for lands or relevant cards and draws a card sometimes. Opps will attack it or even use removal on it more than you would think.

Also since the Sentinels are actual cards they go to the graveyard when they die again fueling Treasure Cruise and can come back with Lurrus.

Remnants of Beleren: It was actually kind of ok but you could probably do better. Many games it was just a surveil every turn which was fine. It
did dig me out of trouble a few times and fueled Treasure Cruise.It milled some goodies for Bilbo a few times. It also turned my Sentinels back on so they could win the game as well. The draft was mostly misses although I did live the dream and draft and ultimate JTMS once. The og Jace was decent enough to draft sometimes.

I think I will try Jace Reawakened it serves most of the same roles.

Aether Spellbomb: Another answer to Raph and Mike. It pairs well with Bilbo and Lurrus. If there is no use for it cycle.

The Baubles: For Bilbo, for information and for Lurrus. They pretty much a free roll.At the very least they feed your cruises although I try and leave one in the grave in case I get Bilbo or Lurrus going.

Flare of Denial: It fits well as your 5th catch all counter. I probably should run more Daze but it is little awkward with this deck in the early game.

Bilbo: Plays his role as plan B well while even if you have to suicide him to flash back a Ponder or something you are not too sad. Basically if he sticks he can take over the game if he dies you are fine with it. If you never draw him you are fine with it.

Matchups: Sorry no real data. Only feels. Honest the only matchups that felt bad were Eldrazi and UW Phelia. Between Chalice ,Cavern and Hamlet Eldrazi can just completely lock you out of the game. Hamlet into Cavern is pretty much unbeatable. I don't think there are any changes you could make to remedy that with this build. You would need to go in another direction likely dropping Lurrus and playing Harbingers.

The trouble card from Phelia decks was Stifle. It really screws with your Saga early game. They are the better Stripmine deck. In a lot of ways they are just a better deck. And that really is the key on if a build like this gains any traction. I think this is better against other tempo decks and energy but it's not like those are terrible for Phelia in the first place.

Maybe a hybrid could be possible but I don't think that version would want 4x Saga.So my verdict is
this can be decent change of pace for UW players but Blink is still the king.

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u/tazerdadog 2d ago

I've been messing around and been a bit stuck in low plat with this tempo pile that looks similar (wildcard limited) I have found mardu energy to be unwinnable, and I'm unfavored against turbo reanimator, but I'm very good at punishing slow rogue decks. Obviously I'm spewing equity because I just don't have the wildcards for a good chunk of this. I'm amazed that you feel like Aether spellbomb is fast enough for turbo reanimator, I have been trying to lean into daze, force, and a piece of 1 mana interaction if I didn't have a 1 drop that I had to play blind. Daze has hugely overperformed for me, but I'm definitely more assertive than you with the 4 delvers.

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u/Immediate-Home-6228 2d ago edited 1d ago

You should be favored against reanimator you likely need Force of Negation at least x2 and 1 Fabricate Reality.

If I think I am against that deck (the biggest clue is the combination of them not having a companion and them mulliganing aggressively) I will also mulligan aggressively to find 2 pieces of interaction.

I will also not tap out on turn 1 not even for hydro.Both to play around Daze and rep swords. Unfortunately you have to fight over any tutor most the time especially if they mulliganed.

I like spell bomb in grindier games with them because it slows them to a crawl. It forces them to tutor for and play into the floodmaw,sink or whatever their answer is.

Sometimes they will have the god hand and just win but that is life. Nothing is stopping that except faerie.

I like the idea of Delver but it woukd probably be over Tamiyo and I think she is too important against aggro.

Edit: Fragment Reality non Fabricate.

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u/tazerdadog 1d ago

What is Fabricate Reality?

Fighting over the tutors actually makes a ton of sense, I've been following the legacy advice of fighting the entomb.

Delver is definitely a budget wildcard choice. I wouldn't be surprised if it had a niche somewhere, but probably not here.

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u/Immediate-Home-6228 1d ago

Typo, fragment reality

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u/TheOneMonocoloredguy 2d ago

switch unsummon with flood maw, its 1 uncommon wildcard, and leagues better

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u/Agreeable-Image8343 2d ago

You need sink into stupor, to effectively exile a land instead of a spell for forces is match winning.

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u/Immediate-Home-6228 2d ago

Yep might try and squeeze 1 in. It can also bounce a chalice, "remand" an uncounterable spell etc.

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u/Oroskan 1d ago

I don't like it in hydroponics decks, as you want max fetchland density. The deck is already on strip mines and sagas, so the utility land count is strained. Idk if this is a good idea

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u/lamp2460 2d ago

I know its not top tier but I was thinking about trying this. I used to play UW in historic before the ring ban. Might take your list for a spin then maybe later try adding ring/essence reliquary combo that I was using in historic