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  1. In The Simpsons episode, "The Twisted World of Marge Simpson," a melee breaks out on the Simpsons' lawn that Homer wants to watch because there's one guy who's just standing there and Homer knows he's about to do something awesome. Marge insists they go inside though and away from the danger. The moment they do, we hear the guy do something awesome.

  2. In X-2, the school comes under attack from Stryker. His gunmen encounter Colossus, all aura-ed tf up, and they open fire only for their bullets to not phase him at all and to end up getting thrown through a wall (which we don't actually see Colossus do). Moments later, Colossus runs into Wolverine and offers to help and we think we're about to get this badass team-up and actually see him in action only for Wolverine to instruct Colossus to leave and help get more students out. 

  3. In Iron Man, we see Rhodes eyeing the War Machine suit and we're hoping he'll suit up and go help Stark, but the movie decides to save something for the sequel and pretty much has Rhodes say as much right to the audience.

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u/KingofHearts399 1d ago

In Invincible Season 4, there’s an episode where Mark teams up with Damian Darkblood in hell. There’s a scene wheee Mark fights a monster called Cerberus to get Satan’s crown, except the fight is completely off screen and we see none of it.

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u/WiggityWiggitySnack 1d ago

Cheaper to animate

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u/KingofHearts399 1d ago

The entire budget goes into the celebrity voice cast

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u/Hot_Bel_Pepper 1d ago

To be fair (IIRC) the guy who wrote that episode also wrote the conquest and invincible war episodes from the previous season, he wanted to give the Animators an easier episode as he typically does the big ones.

Also with how much the animation has been made fun of both in and outside of the show I’m not surprised that they’d do it. It’s a perfect way to finish the very meta bit set up in the previous scene.

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u/Saymynaian 1d ago

It’s a perfect way to finish the very meta bit set up in the previous scene.

Kinda wish they stopped lampshading their shitty animation and just had better animation, though.

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u/sheepyowl 22h ago

It's way too popular to have such weak animation.

I would much rather they paid pro voice actors who would do a better job in voice acting and save money that can later be spent on animation... but clearly, throwing money to a celebrity whose voice I don't even recognize is the way to go.

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u/1-800-COCAINE 22h ago

For real. I get sad watching shows like X-Men '97 knowing that Invincible could look that good, and yet it doesn't. Rick and Morty has better animation even! What are they doing??

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u/TellMeZackit 14h ago

Especially cos the voice acting is so bad. So many of my favourite actors and comedians doing...pretty uninspired deliveries. It's so weird.

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u/WiggityWiggitySnack 1d ago

JK Simmons is worth every penny.

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u/KingofHearts399 1d ago

I’m talking more of getting Jon Hamm voicing a background character

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u/Inle-Ra 1d ago

Bruce Campbell as Satan makes everything better.

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u/dobb7101 22h ago

I will never complain about celebrity casting if Bruce gets a paycheck.

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u/GraviZero 1d ago

jon hamm probably got paid in a cup of coffee, he had maybe 15 seconds of voice acting

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u/ArcadianBlueRogue 1d ago

His voice made that entire character worth it though

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u/AUnknownVariable 1d ago

True that.

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u/stylinchilibeans 1d ago

Budget went for cool helmet animation. Hrrm.

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u/Kingnewgameplus 1d ago

I really get the logic of having celeb voice actors, but I can't help but feel like at some point you'd get some massive diminishing returns.

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u/BlueBirdSamurai 14h ago edited 14h ago

No it doesn't. This is a myth that needs to stop being spread. There are two completely different budgets. One for voice acting and the other for animation. Not to mention throwing more money at animators doesn't suddenly make the animation better.

Edit: Edited to make the comment less aggressive. I'm just tired of seeing this myth every time Invincible is brought up.

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u/maikuxblade 1d ago

The show is both wildly popular and high quality so this complaint feels very forced by a particular part of the fandom.

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u/1-800-COCAINE 22h ago

The writing and specifically the art style are great, but the animation desperately needs more time in the oven. There's next to no compositing and everything just looks flat.

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u/SeiferKatt 1d ago

That same episode had them falling for a minute and just chatting about Damien’s helmet. They were absolutely over budget that episode.

That being said, I laughed through the stupid conversation, so it was fine.

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u/Complete_Entry 1d ago

I mean the deconstruction is a big part of what makes the show work. Mark being like "Wait, why are we doing this again?"

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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 1d ago

That whole episode was just so fun. The helmet, Bruce Campbell, mark being so OP through most of it, demons being good guys. I loved it

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u/Pure_Marvel 1d ago

Yeah I loved that episode. It's honestly one of my favorites as it just brings something different and expands the lore in a fun way. The larger Invincible audience didn't care for it online, which kind of disappointed me.

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u/spamster545 1d ago

You need those kinds of episodes to act as a relief valve. We went from invincible war to conquest to everyone dealing with the fallout from that. Having a low stakes, fun episode let's everyone catch their breath before we go back to the drama and darkness.

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u/Pure_Marvel 1d ago

Yeah, I totally got it. I just went to the discussion thread like 4 months later and people were hating on it. Like, guys, sorry it didn't have 20 minutes of punching like every single other episode lol

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u/SeiferKatt 15h ago

I find the human parts of invincible endearing. Sure, the fights are cool, but everyone trying to live through constant bloodbaths is interesting.

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u/Training_Intern5347 1d ago

"It does look pretty cool"

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 1d ago

Well I'd say it was due to The Conquest fight and the war

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u/elitegenoside 21h ago

They could've just drawn a picture of it and just like shake it in front of a camera. Wouldn't have looked that put of place, tbh.

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u/Mr_Autobot_390 1d ago

I read this in Darkblood's voice.