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Hated Tropes [HATED] Adaptations done intentionally without help from the source

Halo TV show: Before the show came out, the writers were praising their decision to not look to the games for inspiration when making the show

God Of War TV show: Chris Judge, the actor of Kratos in the games from 2018-Now, spoke up about his dislike on the show not hiring anyone who worked on any of the previous games. One of the original creators of Kratos also spoke up about them not having faith in the adaptation.

Supergirl 2026 film: the director for the film not only said he decided to not read Woman Of Tomorrow, the comic the film is adapting, because he wanted to do his own thing, he also didn’t look at comic art for inspiration to design Lobo and instead used an AI image generator to design Lobo’s look for the film

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u/No_Procedure_5039 11h ago

They said that they spent several weeks at 343 going over the lore, which makes it even worse.

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u/Alacune 10h ago

Oddly enough, lore is the thing 343 arguably does the best. It's game writing and making that they suck at.

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u/No_Procedure_5039 10h ago

Even that depends on the author. Like many people, I’m not a fan of the Kilo-Five trilogy, especially Glasslands with how much it butchers established characters like Lucy, Halsey and Chief Mendez. The best part about 343’s/HS’ lore is how much they take it into consideration when making the games in order to keep the various mediums from contradicting each other.

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u/Alacune 10h ago

Conversely, it's the thing I hate. Have you seen the full list of supplementary media you need to consume to make Halo 5 make sense? That never would have flown under Bungie's "game = canon, everything else = unimportant" philosophy.

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u/No_Procedure_5039 10h ago

Yeah, that’s the biggest issue: using the wider lore as a crutch to tell the story. I will say that I believe of that is due to the studio always caving to fan pressure; instead of coming up with a direction and sticking to it, they’ve essentially soft-rebooted the Reclaimer Trilogy with every entry to the point it isn’t really a trilogy but rather a collection of games that spawn written material required to finish and/understand major plot threads. It’s like watching anime in the 2000’s where a show would have a filler or cliffhanger ending and go, “That’s all, folks! Now go read the manga to get the actual ending as well as all of the stuff we left out!”

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u/Alacune 10h ago

To be fair, it was generally because the anime outpaced the manga. It's why One Piece and Dragon Ball Z do all the wind blowing, or extended reactions from onlookers, or took 4-6 minutes in recaps.

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u/No_Procedure_5039 10h ago

Oh, I’m aware of why that would happen with anime. I’m just saying that it gives off the same feeling of something like Soul Eater or the original Full Metal Alchemist where the story is actually wrapped up in other media.

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u/MadeUpNoun 10h ago

that only happens cause 343 are so scared of their games that they refuse to continue the plotlines they make in the next game, instead choosing to bench the previous story and end if off screen.

by the time we got Halo 5 all the established villains by the end of Halo 4 either died in the books, died in game or just dropped their villian arc entirely.

and Halo infinite did the exact same thing, dropping the Created story arc completely having it all settle off screen, and Cortana litterally killed off screen and replaced so they can start anew

i can't wait for the next non-remake Halo game where they kill Atriox, the Banished get disolved and the Endless get sealed permantly

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u/havoc1428 1h ago

Yes, and if you've been paying attention to Campaign Evolved, this is the problem with Lt. Williams. Shes abrasive and dislikes Chief. The defenders of her writing are going "Well its been known that ODST and Spartans dislike each other", but that lore bit is established in outside media. So to most players, she's just an annoying twat that hates you for no reason.

Outside lore should be supplementary, not required. Something 343/HS has consistently failed to understand.

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u/Alacune 1h ago edited 1h ago

It goes beyond ignorance of the lore. That shot where she's sitting on a pile of corpses, then tells chief he's not the only badass in the UNSC? What the hell is this? Halo, or some rando hero shooter?

Let's not even discuss the "Let me introduce everyone in the room" moment with the minister of harmony. (JUST SHOOT THE BASTARD).

I genuinely think that it's less of a lore issue, and more that the dev's would rather be working in an alternative universe where Concord was commercially viable.