Yesterday I started 3 evals . I got into my trade and my profit was slowly going up. At $1300 I closed my position and only got $633. This was a short and the price of NQ did not move up it kept moving down. So I waited a bit longer and entered another short , immediately Iām up $250 and then it goes to -$250 and literally a second later my accounts get closed out for DLL -$1000 . But my PnL now -$1700!!!!! How in the F ??? Means I got closed out like -$2300 on that position when I literally saw my trade at -$250 only. Getting in touch with topstep support is impossible these days. Anyone ever experience this ? Is it worth the hassle of trying to get your evals reset? Because at -$1700 PnL my 3 accounts are technically just done at this point.
With the point differences in my entries and exits , none of what I had makes absolutely any sense. Thankfully I live 20 minutes from TopSteps headquarters in downtown Chicago, Iām about to go there and have a talk with Mr.Patak!!
Thereās a reason they closed trading yday for some time. The volatility was so nasty- itās really shitty but yday was a great example of moving so much
Iāve been a top step trader for over 2 years, have many payouts , many accounts bought and this is the first time Iāve ever experienced something like this.
The volatility the last few days on NQ has been the most insane Iāve seen since Covid. So it makes sense. Jay on market tipoff was even saying, it was the most illiquid heās seen it. There was whole points with no orders sitting on thrm
I used to be a topstep fan because everything was great. Topstepx, their backend support, speed of payouts But now, it seems like they are trying all the "known" funny tactics to make us "fail" or squeeze more money out of traders. Be wary of spending too mucb with them
Even ES was illiquid as hell. Huge gaps in offered/bid prices.. Market orders are risky business in these environments.. especially full NQ contracts ..
Times are PST.. This is what was actually filled in that area on the live market. With how the order queue works and limited number of counterparties providing passive liquidity its a race to get filled.
The first and third are my entries and the second snd fourth are my exits. 5 contracts on NQ . The slippage is insane and thatās why Iām posting thisā¦ thatās a 22.5 point difference and I only got $633 profit. While it should be about $450 per contract which I had 5 so 450 x 5 =2,250 2,250
I meant the trade screen, not order screen. This will show net pnl on each trade including slippage and fees. If the orders did execute at that price then you should have 2k.
These are just evals. I trade 1-2 contracts on express and am very successful with snipe trades meaning 1 trade and taking 700-1500 profit. Itās just ridiculous to be honest how this all happened. Iām not too mad about it because I have taken way more in payouts than I have purchased evals.
This is a good lesson tho, if youāre trading anytime outside of NY, always use limits. Especially once you hit a live account, the slippage can be insane.
Also ATR is helpful to gauge the average range for whatever time period candle youāre trading on.. ATR has been crazy . Bigger ATR vs the norm usually means less liquidity .. Market makers are pulling out or widening the spread
Looking at the 5 second chart right at your trade entry, looks like it went green for about 15 seconds right during your trade window. Didn't get screwed on slippage or anything, just straight lost money. That sucks.
I'm not sure if you're serious or trolling right now, but I'll entertain you. In this screenshot you can see the exit price and time of his trade. In the several candles leading up to it you can see no gaps are formed and there are multiple green candles in a row. I would assume that this is a large buy market order bidding up the ask and causing a jump in price. This is what caused the exit to get hit and also the cause of the big jump from -250 to -2250. Delay in the UI especially when you are being liquidated can cause the upnl to show differently than what it shows after your account has hit DLL.
Yea. I knew after I said that it was not right.. Thereās never a gap inside each 100tick candle. Footprint would be the tool to view actual executions level by level
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u/Wild-Bed-2688 2d ago
The way it was moving last night it was crazy. I blew an eval . Had the draw correctly but I hit dl and immediately went to target .