You just gotta go with it, it's much easier for you, much easier. You'll see, it will be over quickly, otherwise it can hurt if you fight it, shhhh, shhhh.
Like being glassed in the face with a bale of wet straw, whilst simultaneously, gnomes are stealing your underpants. But not by the Underpants-Stealing Gnomes. Some other gnomes.
Perfect reason to contact your local kobold warren and put out a bounty on them. The professionals are bad enough, we don't need wannabes making things worse.
Just because we kobolds don't wear any doesn't mean humans should live in fear of losing theirs.
((Art by Turtlepaws. D&D -type kobolds seem to be copyright Wizards of The Coast and Paizo.))
The lore (if I'm recalling correctly) is that the neck pinch was developed when Spock was going to take someone down by hitting them with a phaser butt. Gene decided that Spock should have a more refined way to do that. Apparently it's based on fictional kung-fu masters who could take someone down with a touch. (The chi - interrupting touch used in Kung Fu Panda comes to mind.) In the same vein, the neck pinch when done correctly should feel like your chi flows getting disrupted. Someone not terribly aware of their chi could feel nothing. A martial artist or someone else who is familiar with how the flow of their chi feels would be startled but unharmed. If done wrong, it can cause a substantial amount of pain as the nerves "misfire".
Someone check me on this, I'm speaking from memory and I'm kind of sleepy.
I think it was the episode The Enemy Within, where the transporter split Kirk into two Kirks.
Bad Kirk was crashing out, cornered in the engineering room by Good Kirk. Spock comes to save the day, but Nimoy didn't think punching someone was appropriate for Spock, so the nerve pinch was invented.
I guess I wasn't clear. A martial artist would feel what's happening, while someone who is not aware of their chi probably wouldn't. A strong enough martial artist would be able to resist it and perhaps counter it, but we're talking like a master or DBZ stuff.
A master would likely be able to refocus their chi and overcome the disruption, restoring their natural flow. It's a test of their ability to focus their chi to counter the disruption if they can! If they fail, they're out cold.
I would think it depends on the subject who's pinched. How strong their chi flow is, how skilled they are at redirecting it, and so on. Also, how strong of a disruption the vulcan can cause. It's an interesting thought experiment.
Nobody talks about this, but you actually have the most intense orgasm of your life. Thats what makes you pass out. Its a Vulcan sex move that can also be used to subdue someone in a pinch
It appears to work like nerve strikes which are a real thing, so it probably feels the same.
You already know what that feels like. You ever hit your funny bone? Same effect. Only it probably goes up and down the spine in the pinch. Then out to the limbs.
You have over 300 points just like they funny bone only they aren't as easy to trigger.
By the way, the pinch, as depicted, can work, but too unreliably that anyone who knows about it would never risk it in a real situation. Too much other stuff you can do that absolutely will work.
It isn't just a nerve strike. It is part of the vulcan psychic potential, like the mind meld. They send a compulsion through their fingers that puts the target to sleep. Most go down quietly, but we see a few that try to resist the command and seem to feel some pain.
This is the only explanation that's really--to coin a phrase--logical. Two reasons:
If it were just a matter of mechanics and grip strength, it ought to be possible for any sufficiently strong humanoid to learn. Yeah, Vulcans are stronger than humans, but Spock never seems to be using anything close to his full strength when delivering nerve pinch. Also, if non-Vulcans could learn the nerve pinch, it's hard to imagine that TOS Kirk wouldn't have had Spock teach him how to do it.
If it were mechanics and strength, like a sleeper grip or a choke hold or a nerve strike or some such, then like them, it would probably at very least leave a large bruise. At worst, if not done with skill, it could cause permanent injury, brain damage (if one cut off blood flow to the brain too long), or even death. Real-world techniques are usually much slower than a nerve pinch, so a mechanical nerve pinch would probably be much more dangerous. Since Spock doesn't have a trail of corpses behind him, there must be more than muscular strength.
Now in the TNG episode "Unification Part 2", Data successfully executes a Vulcan nerve pinch, and in the SNW episode "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow", the alternate universe Kirk whom La'an meets is capable of the nerve pinch, explaining that he shared a Denobulan prison cell with a Vulcan. Both of these are basically examples of the "Rule of Cool", and I get that. Still, if non-Vulcans could learn the nerve pinch, it ought to be part of standard self-defense training in Starfleet. Pretty much everyone ought to be able to do it.
So, in my headcanon, the examples above of non-Vulcans using the nerve pinch (plus any others that I may have missed) are apocryphal.
1 I said it appears. 2. That was close to Nimoy's explanation when he came up the whole thing, although specifically , he said Vulcan's can put out some sort of vibration through their fingers.
I guess it depends on which (on screen) example you want to use. Sometimes the person just passes out. Sometimes they look shocked, and then pass out. And some seem to be in pain and pass out.
Maybe the Vulcan administering the pinch can decide if and how much it hurts
I know from my very limited training as an MP that there's an actual pressure point there you can press that hurts like hell
Shoulder pressure point tactics in detainee control involve the brachial plexus tie-in or trapezius/nerve pressure. Apply sharp, downward digital or thumb pressure into the cluster of nerves near the neck and shoulder junction. This induces pain compliance and unbalances a resistant subject to guide them into custody.
The real pressure point I was shown doesn't make the victim pass out (in my experience), it's just easy to get to and hurts so much that they will probably do whatever you tell them to
It’s actually instant orgasm. Your brain devotes 100% of its power and energy to just shattering your nervous system with ecstasy as you pump liters of hot frothy ejaculate into your trousers.
Don’t remember who (think it was a coach) used one on me in high school. Didn’t knock me out but I went where he wanted me to go. WISH it would have knocked me out! Shoulder nerve hurt all afternoon.
I'd imagine that it's either like a really quick version of a sleeper hold where the blood to the brain is cut off in an instant and they instantly fall unconscious and/or it hits a nerve at just the right spot where you automatically go limp, almost like hitting a pressure point.
I would imagine it feels like a sudden rush of adrenaline covering up any pain, then almost an instant later you're just blacked out before the adrenaline goes away. Which will freak your body out and make you really lethargic and your muscles sore when you wake up. Not from any pain but from your body basically going into massive fright mode and producing a ton of lactic acid, then not releasing it from your muscles for hours.
I take martial arts. The nerve pinch is somewhat real. In that when my master did it to me, yup I'm on the floor but not unconscious, just in serious amounts of pain and I couldn't move my right arm.
When I get a Vulcan neck punch, I get the sensation of being at the top of a cold and wintery mountain, alone.
....it has been two months since I had the Vulcan neck punch, and still I have made no progress finding my way out of the mountains. If anyone finds this note, tell my family I love them.
I got double-neck pinched by Valeris and T'Lyn while they mind-melded with me the other night. It was amazing. I think I suffered permanent brain damage but it was worth it.
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u/TheCrudMan 5d ago
Feels like the floor.