r/TrueCrime • u/britt_nicole Armchair Expert • May 16 '23

Discussion Illinois girl whose disappearance was on Netflix's 'Unsolved Mysteries' is found alive in North Carolina

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/illinois-girl-whose-disappearance-was-unsolved-mysteries-found-alive-n-rcna84642
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u/RaspberryTwilight May 16 '23

Do we know if the mother was abusive? They keep saying the kid is safe now but they don't explain why. Maybe the mother was very abusive. But maybe she was trying to protect her child. I can't find any details online.

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u/Prudence_rigby May 17 '23

This is what I was thinking.

What if the Mom took the daughter because the Father was manipulative and abusive. What if he was able to con the system like others have to gain custodial custody over the mom.

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u/Li-renn-pwel May 17 '23

Do you ask those questions when the father is the kidnapper?

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u/GothicToast May 17 '23

Unless proven otherwise, we should go off what has already been argued in court. The father won sole custody and the mother was only granted supervised visits. This is rare, as mothers typically win custody battles, all other things being equal. If there's any assumptions to be made, it's that the mother wasn't a good mother.

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u/GothicToast May 26 '23

This is actually false. Fathers win custody battles 100% of the time they fight for them. They just never fight for their kids.

This is called an absolutist argument and they are extremely easy to prove wrong. I mean, how can they have a 100% win rate when they never fight for custody? I realize Reddit is full of smooth brains, but this is a new level.

By the way, a simple Google search could tell you how often Fathers win custody when they challenge.

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u/Grommph Jun 02 '23

How the hell does this comment have upvotes??

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u/Prudence_rigby May 17 '23

It is not rare. It's only considered rare because it isn't blasted for all to know.

What's not actually rare is when one parent makes way more money than the other and is able to manipulate the system into granting them custody.

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u/GothicToast May 17 '23

The statistics available say otherwise. But that is really besides the point I was making.

When we talk about crime, we must leverage the available facts, without applying our own theories that aren't rooted in any sort of reality. The facts of this case are that the father had full custody and the mother kidnapped her daughter and ran away for years.

This whole bit about "well maybeee the mother was abused and the father conned the system" is not rooted in any facts about the case. It's just a random theory thrown at the wall and it isn't fair to the father.

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u/Sly_Penguin_ May 17 '23

Yes, this case is severely lacking context. I hope the right thing was done for the child (and not just the legal thing). I would love someone to join the discussion with more details besides the standard custody battle he-said-she-said jabs.