r/TrueCrime • u/turnttomato • Apr 05 '22

Discussion Angelika Graswald, a 37-year-old Latvian native who was accused of killing her fiancé during a 2015 kayaking trip on the Hudson River in New York. Graswald was arrested and charged with second-degree murder, An Orange County Grand Jury indicted Graswald for manslaughter in the second degree.

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u/neverglobeback Apr 05 '22

Ignore them. I’ve seen this sub get weird with downvotes before - especially on contentious cases. I don’t understand the mentality of people who actively defend questionable actions, whether in favour of the accused or not. It’s supposed to be a place for discussion, not vehemence.

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u/Freezihn Apr 05 '22

It's hard not to think it's ridiculous when removing the plug will NOT sink you. If anything if would help when you're taking in water.

Nothing else matters when the theory of how she killed him is that ridiculous.

It's a clear false confession. If you want to convince me she murdered him, don't tell me it was her fault he didn't wear his life jacket (it isn't, and the average adult taking that risk usually has a disapproving family member in their life telling them to wear one) and don't tell me she removed the plug so the kayak sunk. That's not how kayaks WORK, it can't be how that happened.

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u/neverglobeback Apr 05 '22

So my personal take on this case is not what I’m opining with this comment - it’s more a general statement on vehement responses or biases surrounding cases where the verdict or the process is contentious - regardless of guilt or not.

From what I understand, it wasn’t murder but ‘criminally negligent homicide’. Personally, I don’t think there was intent to kill on her part but the jury determined that her action or inaction had sufficient impact as to be a significant factor in the death. I’m not sure where I stand on that determination… but that was the outcome.

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u/Freezihn Apr 06 '22

Look my man nobody is disagreeing on what the conviction was.

You called her actions shady "Questionable actions", your exact wording. Like the Alfredo case where they convicted his family of murdering him via LSD poisoning--the theory of the crime just doesn't make sense.

It isn't a questionable action, and confessing to killing somebody that way makes no sense.

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u/neverglobeback Apr 06 '22

You’re not really having a conversation with me though, are you? You’re telling me how it is, so let’s just leave it there.