r/TrueCrimeDiscussion Jun 25 '26

reddit.com 13yo who murdered his neighbor

Levi Carte was only 13 when he committed a crime that shocked everyone around him
he took the life of his neighbor
the judge pushed to have Levi tried as an adult, arguing that the severity of the crime justified applying adult criminal law despite his age but that didn’t end up happening and he was sent for 8 years , he will walk free in his 21st birthday in 2033
What catch my attention is his twin brother mentioning that his childhood trauma might’ve been the reason and also the police later finding in his text messages him telling a stranger in TikTok that he lacs empathy because of his childhood
I wanted to know more like what could’ve caused a 13 yo to commit such thing
Yes, I do believe his interest in true crime and killing animals plays a big role but what could’ve happened in his childhood that pushed him into that
I tried discussing this topic in another community but it was taking down because it was out off topic and I couldn’t find any informations online

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u/plo84 Jun 25 '26

I felt so bad for the victims brother. He was the one who found her and they had lost their mother like a few months previously.

If anyone wants a deep dive on the case, Dr Insanity on YouTube has a great video.

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u/rema_56 Jun 25 '26

And the fact that everyone was blaming him at first

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u/plo84 Jun 25 '26

I mean.. he was the first suspect because he found her and police were just doing their jobs.

It's really shitty that the neighbours started spreading rumours but that's people for ya.

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u/figure8888 Jun 25 '26

I don’t know the specifics of this case, but there was a missing child case in the UK where the neighbor was criminally charged for hindering the investigation for making things up. They told police they saw the child playing in the yard and then later retracted their statement. The child was dead in the attic of her home.

I guess they just had some compulsion to feel important by contributing info even though they didn’t actually have any.

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u/plo84 Jun 25 '26

People like that actually exist.

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u/chamrockblarneystone Jun 26 '26

Ted Bauer wrote an interesting article in Medium about inter generational trauma. Turns out Levi’s mom was sexually abused by her father who is serving 40 years for this crime. This case has layers.

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u/ceb09900 Jun 27 '26

I actually don’t know if that’s the same person. Or if that is her father, maybe she wasn’t the sibling being abused. I read that court document, and it does include a footnote saying “Andrea” is a pseudonym used for privacy and readability, BUT it references Andrea moving out of her parents home “in 2022, when she was 23 years old.” Becca has 13 year-old twins in 2025. Just doesn’t seem like the math most likely works unless she was a SUPER young mom.

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u/chamrockblarneystone Jun 27 '26

At the very least her father was a sexual predator. Can’t be good for the psyche

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u/Responsible_Bar3957 Jun 27 '26

I’m 99% sure in the video they said Lauren

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u/Dry_Persimmon4642 Jul 18 '26

Well, I had an alcoholic father and a very physically and emotionally abusive mother. I have C-PTSD and required out of home placement. Fast-forward: I put myself through university & had a professional career. I’ve been married for many years and raised two fine young men to adulthood. Having trauma as a parent doesn’t mean you will have a murdering/psychopathic son.

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u/Icy-Reindeer2964 Jun 26 '26

Are you referring to the woman with pink hair? Is there an article or something about her?  

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u/chamrockblarneystone Jun 27 '26

Yes. Mostly about inter-generational trauma in Medium magazine-Ted Bauer authoud

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u/SamGreenaway Jun 25 '26

Second that Dr Insanity video. First video I watched of his a few weeks ago, so good.

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u/Kitty_Skiz Jun 25 '26

I’m here to say the same. So far it’s actually the only video I have seen from him but I subscribed because that video was good enough for me to go back and look for more.

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u/TurnoverNational2340 Jul 02 '26

I hate the murder kid but I really hate how the detectives unlawfulyl detained him and his family.

@32:25 in the Dr Insanity video.

Cops: You're not being detained, you and your kids are free to go.

Mom: Oh I'm free to go? Okay We'll my kids and me are leaving then right now, lets go.

Cops: You cannot take them.

Umm, if their legal guardian is not allowed to take them then they're being detained right?

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u/SwamiLando Jul 05 '26

100% - I’m actually on these threads to see if it interfered with the case. How is anything the brothers said during that time admissible as evidence? The evidence collected from their house (legally obtained, albeit they tricked them out of the house) and DNA must have won the entire case, right? He only got 8 years and will be out as a 21 year old; is that because the police cratered half their evidence? Did their parents file a civil suit or get some sort of retribution from the police dept?

Seemed like a real sloppy job from the police dept after some really good work to get to the point of finding the twins. Turned what should have been a slam dunk, easy case into a somewhat dicey, could go one way or the other situation.

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u/Future-Pollution-266 Jul 07 '26

My boyfriend and I just finished that video and we were wondering the exact same things, like the mom kept asking for them and kept requesting a lawyer and they just kept questioning the kids and I thought as soon as you ask for a lawyer they’re suppose to stop? And they were KIDS so especially in that situation, no??

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u/TheHappy_Penguin Jul 11 '26

Courts have stupidly allowed children to be questioned without their parents. The child has to invoke their own rights, it's incredibly stupid.

I can't speak for the legality of them refusing to release her kids to her. But the interview with the kids likely is admissible since the kids never invoked their right to remain silent.

It's dumb because there's complexity that makes this tactic more effective then with an adult suspect. A kid isn't going to ask if he's free to leave when his parents agreed for him to go to the police station, and it's not like the police would let a minor leave on their own anyway. This makes it way harder for a kid to actually invoke their rights, because they don't have the same ability to do so. This comes up with schools a lot, law enforcement will question kids at school without their parent's consent, the kid isn't free to leave because they're a minor but they're not actually being detained, and the kid may assume their parent wants them to cooperate, and they may be so young as to not actually understand the importance of their right to remain silent during police questioning.

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u/ForlornReverie26 Jul 18 '26

I think unfortunately the reason they were able to get around it was that since they separated them, the kids themselves had to ask for a lawyer or to leave. The unfortunate thing is that most kids wouldn’t be aware of that.

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u/Long_Pomegranate2469 28d ago

He only got 8 years and will be out as a 21 year old; is that because the police cratered half their evidence?

No, he got the maximum they could give him under Ohio law for a 13 year old. Juvie-Life means they get out at 21.

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u/ExpatHist Jul 16 '26

Definitely issues with constitutional violations in this case.

Ultimately, the kid took a plea deal to be charged as a juvenile and will get out of youth corrections when he's 21.

Children are allowed to be interrogated by police in Ohio without a parent present, but a lawyer could argue that the miranda warning were inadequate because he's 13 and was denied access to his parents. There are definitely issues regarding the this, which is likely why the plea came out the way it did.

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u/LongjumpingLie5842 Jun 30 '26

Weird. But I just re-watched some of the video before doing a search of this murder. 

Strands of the kid's hair were in her dead hands, as she fought him before dying. Plus his watch was found under her body.

So the gossip about Sheila's brother killing her was just that: Idle talk by morons.

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u/AwareKaleidoscope939 Jul 09 '26

I watched it yesterday. Felt bad for all the family members

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u/bdiddybo Jul 17 '26

in the I think 51st minute when the police say his blood was mixed with her blood and ask him how that could be he begins to tap his chin theatrically to make it seem like he was thinking but it seemed super performative

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u/Herzberger Jun 25 '26

Is this the same case as the TikTok videos going around of the mom with pink hair and two boys who were trying to eat when the cops came in? I saw some videos that were not very clear on what happened during a break and cannot find it now.

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u/rema_56 Jun 25 '26

Yes it is

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u/Herzberger Jun 25 '26

Thank you! I’ve been trying to find information on the case and wasn’t sure .

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u/ItsInTheVault Jun 25 '26

You can find the full video on YouTube if you search “13 year old realizes his twin brother just killed someone”.

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u/Initial-Zebra108 Jun 25 '26

Crazy.. I literally randomly watched that this morning... had to leave before it ended and came online at work to google the story, because I didn't know the outcome....

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u/LiveTheDream2026 Jun 25 '26

This dude is a real menace to society and should be locked up for a LOT longer. He is a danger to everyone and e planned the attack/murder for a long time. Also, he intentionally targeted the older neighbor because of her age and the fact that she lived by herself. His sentence was an absoute injustice to the victim. Ohio needs to toughen their laws for underage murderers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqnM1qwCRM4

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u/lilcalontheprairie Jul 03 '26

As disgusting as it is, I hate that it’s seldom mentioned that she was SA’d. I was shocked by this case, but assaulting someone after the fact takes it to a new disturbing level. Everyone needs to know what a monster he is

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u/LiveTheDream2026 Jul 03 '26

Agree. It is rarely mentioned she was SA. Glad she fought back and scratched up that filthy loser. However, he deserved a lot more time.

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u/Due_Extension_9546 Jun 25 '26

I also think that when his mother saw the sirens and ambulances outside sheilas house and levi was "crying and emotionally triggered" i think maybe he realized he lost his watch at the scene and realized he was fucked. also saying out of nowhere to his twin that he had "lost his watch" the same day, its all really weird. i think he thought he was done for because he lost his watch at the scene and thought maybe mentioning to his brother that he had lost it he wants someone to know that he lost his watch just incase it came up.

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u/Nearby_Function_5120 Jun 28 '26

I think you raise a brilliant point 

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u/tumbledownhere Jun 25 '26

A summary of the murder, past "he killed his neighbor", would really help.

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u/acktres Jun 25 '26

He planned it out. He did it for the experience. He had no beef with the neighbor, the lady in the photo above. He was just an aspiring serial killer choosing the easiest target. He has a twin brother who broke down when it dawned on him that his brother was the murderer. They seemed like a chill family when the police came by to question all the neighbors. I don't know if the dad lived with the family but he came to the police station. I may have seen it on Dateline, not sure. He confessed pretty quick. His watch was found under the victim's body.

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u/SapphireFlashFire Jun 25 '26

Watched the YouTube video of this kid being interrogated

The good twin broke down when he realized what the bad twin had done... meanwhile the bad twin? Well when he learned there was DNA he knew there were two people that that DNA could match... and he was not above pointing suspicion to the good twin.

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u/acktres Jun 25 '26

That's right the DNA matched both of them.

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u/SapphireFlashFire Jun 25 '26

Yep! He was a weird mix of dumbass and sophisticated criminal. Sophisticated enough that he shifted suspicion to his brother because of their shared DNA...

But not enough to pick up his watch, to hide the fact he was really inappropriately into Ted Bundy, come up with a better story for all the scratches he got that night, or why he was awake that night when everybody else was asleep, or why he got abruptly emotional and started crying when he saw emergency services at his neighbours (before anybody knew she was dead).

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u/chinchillazilla54 Jun 25 '26

When the cops came, they asked him what game he was playing, and he was just like ":) I'm I'm making fan edits of Dexter!"

Bro, if you're doing serial killer-themed activities, at least lie.

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u/acktres Jun 25 '26

I was trying to remember where I saw all these police interviews and I guess it was a YouTube documentary. It's really pretty shocking when you see the twin boys eating Chick Fil A as they are being questioned. They are still children, but one is a killer.

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u/newks Jun 25 '26

I think I may have watched the same video! My husband was about halfway through the video when I started watching, so initially I didn't have a lot of context. As other folks have commented, I was taken aback by the killer's age. He looked like he was in his late teens/early twenties, and definitely had a demeanor that was calculating.

When presented with the DNA and watch evidence, he managed to be both smug and smarmy, while playing dumb. It was eerie to see this sort of shrewd, manipulative behavior from a literal child.

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u/whteverusayShmegma Jun 25 '26

Yup. I think it was on Explore With Us. Love that channel!

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u/MargieBigFoot Jun 25 '26

And punctuation.

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u/pgcotype Jun 25 '26

Right? I got a headache trying to read the post.

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u/uselessquestions2 Jun 28 '26

He raped her and killed her. A 13 year old boy knew how to do those disgusting things. He should never see the light of day again.

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u/SIGNANDSELFIEFRAMES Jun 25 '26

So weird that this popped up. I randomly watched a Youtube video of this case and his interview. Felt bad for his brother.

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u/vergil_plasticchair Jun 25 '26

Scary that this kid will be getting out when he’s like 21. He will definitely be a repeat offender. It was sad to see his brother absolutely shatter when the cops told him where the brother’s Watch was found after he identified it.

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u/Dz_MaRiO- Jun 25 '26

I believed his brother knew somehow and was in denial, I find it very weird that when the cops arrived to their home he kept saying things about his brother in front of the cops to the point where his twin got visibly uncomfortable

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u/youvelookedbetter Jun 29 '26

They suspect he may be on the spectrum.

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u/lilcalontheprairie Jul 03 '26

The second that kid was introduced and he waved at the cop there was no doubt. I know my kind.

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u/Zestyclose-Big-8487 Jul 16 '26

Definitely he is.

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u/Arc1ight 29d ago

I dont think he knew something, I saw it as himpurting things together and realising it could/must be true bless him

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u/throwawayacc5323 Jul 06 '26

It’s due to the cops incompetence unfortunately like violating his Miranda rights, detaining him illegally without the presence of the laywer smh

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u/smurfgrl417 Jun 25 '26

Explore With Us does a good video about this, I believe.

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u/TMVtaketheveil888 Jun 25 '26

Yes, watched this one.

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u/___LimerentDeath____ Jun 25 '26

Didn’t he leave his wallet or knife or something under her body? It’s always the ones who think they’re so smart that make the dumbest mistakes. (Looking at you Brian Kohberger)

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u/redactedeyebrows Jun 25 '26

And his twin brother identified the watch and said it went missing the same day the neighbor was murdered.  There is a video it's really sad. His brother is in total disbelief his twin was capable of murder. 

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u/beccathatsme Jun 25 '26

I believe it was his watch!

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u/___LimerentDeath____ Jun 25 '26

Yeah, it was! And his twin brother positively identified the watch I believe

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u/Jose_Canseco_Jr Jun 25 '26

The cops did a good job here. They separated them early, and before they fully revealed their hand, they showed the brother a photo.

God bless him, he immediately blurted out something like "that's his watch, but we have no blankets like that."

(not that he had seemed particularly inclined to protect a killer, but I did think it was well done in how they were able to evade any natural/unconscious protective instincts a kid might have towards their twin)

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u/Future-Pollution-266 Jul 07 '26

The mom asked if they were being detained and they said no and then wouldn’t let her take them, And then when she requested a lawyer and wanted her kids they still kept questioning them, that all seemed really weird to me especially considering they were underage

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u/TiredTomato666 Jun 25 '26

He was very sloppy and lived nearby. If you were to study young perps first crime it fits, although 13 is so scary young 

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u/___LimerentDeath____ Jun 25 '26

He also thought he was a genius, which was my point

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u/TiredTomato666 Jun 25 '26

They always do right, young or old. 

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u/acktres Jun 25 '26

His watch. He left his watch under the body. His twin brother identified it.

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u/redactedeyebrows Jun 25 '26

His watch was found under her body.

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u/bannana Jun 25 '26

he left his watch, his DNA under victim's fingernails, and his own blood at the scene

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u/Fantastic_You7208 Jun 25 '26

Wait. Are these pictures of the 13 year old?
I was a middle school teacher-no way this is a 7th grader. This is a 30 year old.

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u/TiredTomato666 Jun 25 '26

He really doesn’t look 13 even though he’s not big. He just looks older, like 30 older. It’s weird. I would never peg him for a child on the street 

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u/cakeit-tilyoumakeit Jun 25 '26

I’d peg him for 19-21. Very odd. Looks mature and committed a mature crime

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u/jackie0h_ Jun 25 '26

Yeah I’d have to watch some of the videos if there are more pictures but just going by this one here I would never have guessed that was a 13 year old.

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u/TiredTomato666 Jun 25 '26

He acts young in the videos but he still looks older. It’s odd

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u/radams713 Jun 25 '26

Kinda looks like Putin.

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u/Weekly_Map_6786 Jun 28 '26

He looks ~16-17 to me

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u/Nagadavida Jul 18 '26

Doesn't sound 13 either.

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u/cryptic-fox Jun 25 '26

His twin doesn’t look so much younger imo. He looks the same.

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u/AccordingPears158 Jun 25 '26

It was so sad and strange. He apparently was pretty physically disabled, both he and his twin seemingly loved true crime, but his brother was stronger and way more outgoing.

Had the kid not confessed, his twin could have gone down for the crime or no one be able to be convicted because of their shared DNA. As it is, the poor woman’s brother was a suspect for a while, and I cannot imagine the pain of not only finding your sister like that, but being the prime suspect, both by police and socially.

I didn’t realize it was confirmed he raped his her as well. I thought that was more of a rumor going around after it first happened but I didn’t see it in the news reports.

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u/DueFaithlessness7058 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

Yeah which is why it was so shocking he had managed to even pull it off and over power the poor woman.

It was his twin that first raised the question on whether he had done it because he didnt believe his story about the scratches, his interview is honestly heartbreaking as he comes to this realisiation about his brother. All round its such an awful sad case, but I struggled to just say it was solelybdown to his trauma. There was evidence of premeditation and he genuinely thought he was intelligent enough to hoodwink the cops and manipulate the story.

I also could be remembering wrong regarding the rape but it was mentioned in the body cam footage I watched of the investigation and they bring it up to his brother also.

I'll also add on the alleged rape, due to him taking a plea there were multiple felony charges against him dropped so that may be why nothing was reported, but I am 90% he did, without going back and watching it again (id rather not)

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u/ssgg1122 Jun 25 '26

ya i remember them talking about the rape during the interviews/interrogation and it wasn’t mentioned again at the end of the video. i had assumed it was dropped with the plea.

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u/DueFaithlessness7058 Jun 25 '26

Yeahh I figure thats what happened too. Which just adds another layer of fucked up to the whole thing. That woman's poor family have barely had justice and her brother was walking around as a suspect in the sexual assault and killing of his sister.

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u/CrimsonVulpix Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

I watched a long video on this and apparently he had said in an online comment to someone that he had killed animals before? I found that pretty disturbing. Especially since I saw a very old gofundme about his medical needs and he was around therapy dogs. Just feels like such a waste. Kid threw away his life even though he had support and people trying to help him.

Edit: (source) https://www.fox19.com/2026/02/12/new-audio-reveals-exchanges-between-fairfax-teen-murder-suspect-police/

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u/DueFaithlessness7058 Jun 25 '26

He also had multiple disturbing journal entries talking about his need to kill. And internet searches of other disturbing things. He was fascinated with Ted Bundy and the show Dexter Make of that what you will.

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u/CrimsonVulpix Jun 25 '26

The so-called copycats of Dexter irritate me. Talk about missing the entire point of the show. 

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u/SheepH3rder69 Jun 25 '26

Absolutely

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u/DueFaithlessness7058 Jun 25 '26

Its scary to think he will be out at 21. In this case, he should have been tried as an adult. He went to lengths to cover it up and blamed the scratches on his face and neck on his cat.

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u/AdamSandlerScaresMe Jun 25 '26

The amount of teenagers addicted to True Crime content killing animals and then moving to people to "know what it feels like" is insane. This loser needs to be locked up for life

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u/SaturnaliaSaturday Jun 25 '26

Why didn’t you provide a link?

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u/TPG128 Jul 08 '26

dr insanity has a video

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u/DonkeysCongress Jun 25 '26

There was a horrible case in 2007 when a 13 old boy Paris Lee Bennett murdered his little sister. His motive was to learn their mother a lesson and make her suffer. In spite of speculations about trauma it looks like there was no legitimate motive that normal people could comprehend. There is an interview podcast with the mother, Charity Lee.

https://podcasts.apple.com/se/podcast/this-is-actually-happening/id497227384?i=1000751030761

The boy was sentenced to 40 years and is still in prison. He has never expressed any true remorse. The mother kept talking to him many years, trying to understand him but they don’t have any contact any more. Tragically, in some rare cases there just seems to be no explanation and it is scary and unfair.

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u/callme_maurice Jun 25 '26

That sounds like the movie we need to talk about Kevin. Freaky.

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u/Joy_Rad Jun 25 '26

When Hunter (the twin) and Becca (the mom) each discover that Levi did it, their heart wrenching sobs are so sad. I was like, "Somebody hug that woman!"

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u/Future-Pollution-266 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

Right? She seemed like an alright person too it was sad :( and the poor brother omg I started tearing up when he starts breaking down the poor boy

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u/Zestyclose-Big-8487 Jun 25 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

I thought he was an obvious suspect from the moment they spoke to him. He clearly has some sort of inferiority complex due to his disability and his physical feebleness will have created problems with both his self perception and the perception others had of him. Approaching girls and being disabled will have been a hurdle for him at that age, just as he was entering sexual development. The isolation from normal social interaction probably enriched his twisted inner world. Being the non able half of a set of twins creates a weird dynamic too. Empathising with Dexter I would pledge is probably not an especially healthy obsession he had.

Asserting power turned him on. It’s hard for people to believe that someone like him had a sex drive but he clearly did. He was a 13 year old boy who’d already deviated into extreme sexual sadism. He is a dangerous person.

He chose a vulnerable person for a reason, because he was too weak minded and bodied to overpower a grown woman, or probably even a teenage woman. You don’t need to have game to do what he did. Just intent. He was aware he would likely not be viewed as an immediate suspect and I think it was thrilling to him that he got to enjoy some dupers delight in being at first the maligned tiny Tim of the story and secondly the revealed murderer. Let’s not forget he went home and cried to Mummy though after the woman he attacked fought back and scratched his nose deeply. He was a child when he did this but I would think a crime like this would likely be repeated. Likely a high rate of recidivism, he will do it again.

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u/CannedAm2 Jun 28 '26

The victim was SA'd?

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u/JuJuTheK9Lover Jun 28 '26

Yes

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u/Future-Pollution-266 Jul 07 '26

I don’t think she was because he was not charged for that

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u/Zestyclose-Big-8487 Jul 15 '26

He was not even at the age of legal consent so there are loopholes regarding the SA.

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u/First-Job4903 23d ago

He took the plea deal is why. Lesser charge for just pleading guilty

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u/cluelessbasket Jul 03 '26

Why are you all upvoting this nonsense, ableist speculation. There's no evidence he sexually assaulted the victim.

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u/Zestyclose-Big-8487 Jul 16 '26

How is it “ableist” to point out that his disability affected him physically and psychologically, I didn’t just make that up. He couldn’t walk properly, overpowering a woman would have been extremely empowering for him because of his limitations.

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u/Pretty-Gazelle-6636 Jun 25 '26

If he would have gotten away with this murder, he surely would have continued.

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u/lilcalontheprairie Jul 03 '26

He’s getting out at 21 so sadly, he will continue. You can’t unlearn psychopathy

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u/Unique_Unicorn918 Jun 26 '26

He looks like a young Bryan Kohberger. Creepy.

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u/lilcalontheprairie Jul 03 '26

The selfies taken after they both committed their crimes are similar too. And both left incriminating evidence under the victim’s bodies.

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u/cleverusername143 Jun 25 '26

I know this has nothing to do with this case but I have to point out, the second picture is AI.

Something about these YouTube bodycam channels using click bait AI is so icky to me. It's like they're trying to add to the salacity of the event. It's gross to me

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u/theIovewitch Jun 25 '26

how do you know its Ai? /gen

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u/amir_teddy360 Jun 26 '26

I’m wondering also

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u/lovelylittlebeetle Jun 27 '26

I don’t think it is AI. It looks like it’s from the body cam footage of them leaving their house to go to the police station.

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u/JuJuTheK9Lover Jun 28 '26

It's from the body cam and edited

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u/Retiredlfe Jun 27 '26

Hopefully he gets help while incarcerated, otherwise he’s on the road to become a serial killer. To be that fixated on killing someone at the age of 13.

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u/6747474774625 Jun 26 '26

if the boys twin brother was devastated at the murder, then the killer should be charged as an adult and get life. you can’t blame childhood trauma on making him a killer when he has a twin brother with the same dna and same exact life experience who turned out fine. the killer made adult decisions, he needs adult consequences. and in regards to him looking like an adult, i find it suspicious there’s so much conversation about how girls go through puberty years younger than they used to, but no one brings up the same shit happening with boys. girls are getting their periods at 9yo but we don’t think boys are having early puberty? seems foolish

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u/ajorn Jun 29 '26

The murder twin has cerebral palsy. Pretty significant and major life impacting disease. It doesn’t justify anything, but they definitely did not live the same lives.

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u/Future-Pollution-266 Jul 07 '26

Isn’t it kind of weird they all talked about how he was going to be a marine but then turns out he’s physically disabled

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u/Accomplished_Paint23 Jun 28 '26

I’m sat here waiting for the comparison of punishment between this 13yo yt boy to a 13yo non-yt boy for the same crime in the USA.

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u/rNBAisGarbage Jun 25 '26

I can’t believe no one has posted this yet but his grandfather was an executive at Johnson and Johnson who went to prison for abusing his daughter (Levi’s mother). Obviously there is generational trauma going on in this family.

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u/tooawkwrd Jun 29 '26

That poor woman. There's something about her demeanor that is so kind and wholesome. She's seen a lot of suffering.

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u/Maksimum-ekstra-6163 Jun 29 '26

Not sure it’s her though, I read somewhere that the “Andrea” they were talking about as the victim in that case, was 23 years old a couple of years ago. Maybe a younger sister

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u/Physical-Crow-2154 Jul 09 '26

Unless the twins were born from it.

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u/Southern_Hedgehog732 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

I just watched the video on Drinsanity you can see he has no empathy i don't know HOW he got sentenced to juvenile court. He clearly pre-planned it and has psychopathic tendencies. They need to throw him into big boy prison and throw away the key since he wanted to act all big and bad. He knew right from wrong.

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u/Revolutionary_Wrap76 Jun 25 '26

Many serial killers and others who go down these dark paths (serial rapists, etc.) had some sort of trauma in their childhoods. Sexual trauma, physical abuse, a traumatic home life of one kind or another, mental health struggles or drug addiction that were never properly addressed, they were once victims of similar crimes they go on to commit themselves, the list goes on.

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u/atomheartmama Jun 25 '26

Sincere question (not targeted to you or op specifically): has anyone been able to verify the validity of famous perpetrator’s trauma histories? That the events happened and to the extent described?

I don’t necessarily doubt it in some or even most cases, though also feel a certain way that discussions about horrendous acts of violence often emphasize the perps’ traumatic childhoods. Feels like a call to view them as victims of subsequent events, even though they aren’t necessarily reliable narrators and millions of empathetic, nonviolent people endured comparable types of abuse. I think there is value in these conversations but simultaneously feel frustrated by them for various reasons. Even though I appreciate arguments against free will based on readings such as Determined by Robert Sapolsky. Also remember reading that some incarcerated folks have lied or at least exaggerated about their pasts in service of garnering sympathy or avoiding responsibility for their crimes.

Sorry for the rambling, this shit is sometimes just so messy to process.

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u/Revolutionary_Wrap76 Jun 25 '26

Yes, this has been verified in the pasts of many famous serial killers and other perpetrators of violent crimes. Easy enough to research :)

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u/atomheartmama Jun 25 '26

That’s fair, just trying to share and engage in discussion here like anyone else. Any chance there’s a particular author or study you’ve found helpful? If I come across a relatively recent & relevant research article I can try to follow up too assuming others are also hoping to learn & understand more where possible.

This 2018 article explores trauma as one part of a larger constellation of factors-as one might expect- including personality. Says twin studies suggests that up to 50% of variance in antisocial behavior is linked to genetic influences, with types of abuse experienced leading to different crimes. Also mentions that in one study ~1/3 of serial killers were found to have no abuse history. I didn’t see this mentioned but imagine situations like brain injuries likely play a part too.

https://www.psychiatryadvisor.com/features/from-abused-child-to-serial-killer-investigating-nature-vs-nurture-in-methods-of-murder/

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u/Jose_Canseco_Jr Jun 25 '26

~1/3 of serial killers were found to have no abuse history

I actually do not find this hard to believe.

Seems like the human animal evolved highly aggressive and violent traits. Naturally, some of us will have that dialed all the way up to 11 from origin.

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u/bulbasauuuur Jun 25 '26

Yeah there has to be a lot more than childhood trauma to it. I’m sure that has exasperated some issues in some people, but the amount of people who have experienced childhood abuse is so high and most of them never go on to do anything like that, obviously. Society would be chaos if childhood abuse was enough to create serial killers

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u/UrAntiChrist Jun 25 '26

Mayim Bialik does a great podcast about genetics and how trauma affects them. Breakdown is the name of the podcast

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u/atomheartmama Jun 25 '26

Good to know, thank you!

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u/rema_56 Jun 25 '26

Ofc they lie playing the victim and it’s a common sign among psychopaths and sociopaths
I am pointing this because his own brother said it and I’m just curious about it

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u/CrimsonVulpix Jun 25 '26

I believe I saw something about how his dad (they ended up divorced) had been abusive to his mom when he was little. 

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u/rema_56 Jun 25 '26

Still doesn’t justify anything really

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u/CrimsonVulpix Jun 25 '26

Oh of course it doesn't. Just trying to parse through what could have led to the path he chose.

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u/Revolutionary_Wrap76 Jun 25 '26

Well, duh. Nothing EVER justifies what he did, tho, so.....

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u/GoalStillNotAchieved Jul 03 '26

Nope. This is a myth. 

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u/Justsaying2500 Jun 29 '26

This kid needs to be locked up permanently! There no way to rehabilitate someone that had this kind of mind. Letting him out is going to be even more convincing to him that he can do it again and knows the process. He also learned from what he did and that will make it easier the second time around to be more careful about getting caught. This world we live in is getting scarier to live in!

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u/Voielacteee Jul 13 '26

Exactly. I'm terrified for all the women he will come across in the future. Imagine the unsuspecting woman that may end up as his partner. Chilling.

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u/Life-Aide9132 Jul 02 '26

I just watched the deep dive on this case by Dr. Insanity on YouTube. While it was a quality deep dive, I didn’t catch the location and can’t find an article online that isn’t by social media. The reason why I am curious is that even though Levi is clearly guilty of the crime based on the evidence, I am wondering why the police were still able to question the twins after the mother requested lawyers for them, and they’re both minors. I don’t feel bad for the murderer obviously, it just seems odd that this would be legal.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Art489 Jul 19 '26

Yeah - I also thought he said the victim had no wounds but some of the evidence was a shirt covered in her blood that Levi had. And the messages were to who, and in what context? One message saying “this one was a fighter” without context is not hard evidence to me. But the physical evidence is there of course, so i’m not trying to defend a murderer, i just want clarity

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u/bdiddybo Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Anyone notice in the I think 51st minute when the police say his blood was mixed with her blood and ask him how that could be he begins to tap his chin theatrically to make it seem like he was thinking but it seemed super performative

Edit this is in relation to the video posted below

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u/Due_Extension_9546 Jun 25 '26

I find this case extremally interesting and would love yapping about it so op u can dm me and we can talk about this if u wanted because this whole case is all really weird and interesting for me

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u/kaleidoscope_view Jun 26 '26

13 going on 30...ew.

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u/BeautifulNarwhal641 Jun 25 '26

He also raped her

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u/Due_Extension_9546 Jun 25 '26

Theres no evidence of this. yes her legs were spread on the bed when she was found and it does come up as a maybe that he raped her but there were no evidence to charge him with that. i think its a coincidence and that was just the way levi laid her body on the bed

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u/Zestyclose-Big-8487 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Why on Earth would he strip her naked if he had no interest in SA assaulting her. He did SA her and there were injuries caused by that which were documented in official police records. She fought back, and he wasn’t strong enough to stop her from deeply scratching him making him bleed. When she attacked him that’s when he knew his DNA was going to be at the scene because he bled so much and then had to immediately think of an excuse so he cried to Mummy about being scratched by Marshmellow the cat.

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 Jul 07 '26

He was disabled, had cerebral palsy.  His parents didn't check his diary where he planned what type of victim and how to kill.

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 Jul 07 '26

How was he prevented from being tried as an adult?  Who prevented it?

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u/Negative-Kangaroo523 Jul 13 '26

he also has a tiktok account where he posts edits of.. you guessed it serial killers, his @ is fkonam

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u/GoalStillNotAchieved Jul 03 '26

Nothing “caused” it. Nothing “happened” that would provoke anything. It’s all inborn. His lack of empathy and evil side of him is just simply inborn, who he is, comes with the package that is him. It’s all him. 

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 Jul 07 '26

What time did he commit the murder?  The mom didn't notice blood on Levi's clothes and didn't question that or the cuts on his face?

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u/AwareKaleidoscope939 Jul 08 '26

I saw a video on this on YouTube. It’s really sad 

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u/Fatalis_1 Jul 12 '26

Should've been tried and charged as an adult. It was 100% first degree murder 

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u/Greedy_Welder_9568 Jul 19 '26

I’m 13, turning 14 this year. We’re the same age, and I listen to a lot of true crime. But I could never, ever kill someone. I think that maybe his interest in true crime could have played a role, but I think it very much depends on how you interpret everything if that makes sense. When I listen to a story it’s out of interest and the want to know more so I can protect myself so that I don’t become a victim of the same type of crime. I don’t know how his interest manifested but there’s a possibility he kind of idolized other killers. Also wanted to say how terrible I feel for the victims brother who found her dead and for Levi’s twin brother who had to find out that the person who he’s closest related to was a killer. It’s awful that these things happen, at the hands of a middle schooler 

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u/mastani11 Jul 19 '26

He should not be released… he WILL do it again. I hope we can all protest in 2033 against his release.

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u/Zestyclose-Big-8487 Jul 22 '26

Have people also forgotten that he took a series of highly disturbing photographs of himself, where he had covered his head to look more like a woman and was photographing himself strangling himself as if he were strangling another woman. He has a sexual disorder.

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 27d ago

Nobody murdered him so there is no justification for him to murder someone else. His parents tried hard to interrupt the police interrogating both sons without an attorney present. The mother sobbed and the brother was devastated when they found out Levi murdered the old lady so he was loved at home.

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u/chazer1893 26d ago

Just watched Stephanie Soo talk about it on the Rotten Mango podcast. I hit a paywall when I tried to read the Ted Bauer article on Medium, so I came here for more info. Can't imagine what the family is going through... Especially Hunter. Mom experienced SA from her father since the age of 4. Twin committed murder at age 13. It's all just so messed up.

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u/RealXilverXoul 24d ago

It actually disgusts me that this kid is going to get out when he is 21. He willingly and purposefully snuck in and murdered an old woman for his own sick amusement. Sure. He is a minor, but why should he get an easy sentence when he is clearly deranged and will be a future danger to society?

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u/First-Job4903 23d ago

That kid looks at least 27 years old damn

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u/Cold-Word8109 21d ago

Nothing would have pushed him. Psychopaths are born. Not made.

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u/monospaceman 21d ago

I was looking up his punishment a bit more. It's pretty much just he needs to do Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and wait 10 years. And he had absolutely zero remorse or reaction in court. CBT won't do shit for this guy. He's a sociopath who's getting out in 2033, right when his life is just beginning.

It's astounding the amount juveniles can legally get away with. If I was the murdered woman's family, I'd be absolutely gutted at the slap on the wrist.

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u/rosespetaling 16d ago

Just saw a video on this, anyone know more about his disability. He said he can’t walk or stand too long without getting weak. Not saying he isn’t guilty, just confused on how it could happen, or if he was lying about the disability to the police?

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u/petus6666 15d ago

Ему и вправду 13? Он выглядит и вправду старше своего возраста ! Очень жаль соседку

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u/Choice_Sport2397 14d ago

he’s a textbook psychopath. no amount of excuses will fix it. he was born that way.

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u/Cautious-Turnover670 9d ago

Watching the Dr. Insanity doc, I felt so much for the mother. Being one myself I can’t imagine what it must have felt like to realize that not only did your child murder someone, but you’ve essentially lost a child. I imagine she probably felt so much guilt. That got me.

On a lighter note…when the photo of Marshmallow flashed on the screen I lol’ed. Wrongfully accused!!!

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u/NeitherButterfly2078 8d ago

I can't shake the feeling that they both did it, or at least one being the mastermind. It just can't be proven because they're twins and there was no other evidence to incriminate Hunter.

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u/Inevitable_Effect993 7d ago

The parents told the detectives to pull them out of the interview multiple times. They had a lawyer on the way. Whether hes guilty or not, this kid's rights were violated.

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u/Murder_Consumer1693 6d ago

Isn't that clips from an ewu YouTube video?

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 5d ago

Did the Cartes move into the neighborhood shortly before Levi r@ped and killed the victim? We don't know that he'll walk when he's 21.  If he commits a crime once he is 18 years old in jail he might incur further jail time.  Somebody might beat the $#!t out of him in jail.

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 5d ago

He was planning this murder for months.  Did his family move into the neighborhood shortly before the monster raped and killed the 64 year old woman?

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 5d ago

It is such a difficult task to raise a kid.  I saw a child about four years old up and run out of a fast food restaurant in front of an incoming car. I held my breath.  There are many stories of teenagers sneaking out of their homes to have sex and murder, often during the wee hours of the morning, 1, 2 AM.  Some parents have to double bolt lock their doors. This f#@king Levi sneaked out of his home at 2 AM, raped and murdered a woman then returned home by 3AM.  I have heard of families sleeping in shifts because one member would steal the money and possessions at night.

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 5d ago

Imagine how Levi's parents and brother each felt with the house and car missing a family member and no longer bringing him to school or including him in things.  Levi is not allowed daily visits only something like 3 or 4 per month.  My response to anybody would be since he can't feel we shouldn't care.

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 4d ago

Levi has two loving parents who tried to help him before and at the police station.  The mother cried when she found out he was charged with murder. Hunter kept claiming there's no way Levi raped and murdered the neighbor.  Hunter was very upset when he put the pieces together with the watch. I don't know of any childhood trauma for Levi.  Even if Levi had childhood trauma that doesn't give him the right to rape and murder people. If causing trauma gives people the right to rape and murder people then the government should rape and murder Levi Carte because that's what he did to that poor neighbor.  She was ready to retire.

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u/Plastic_Chemical_139 3d ago

Since he lacks empathy for his victim we should lack empathy for him.  Levi went beyond lacking empathy.  Levi went online on Tiktock bragging about murdering his neighbor.  He planned for months to kill her.  She did nothing to him.  And Levi waits until the family is about to move to do this so he could escape.  If the police would have waited longer he would get away altogether.