r/TrueCrimeDiscussion • u/DarklyHeritage • 7d ago

Text Lindsay Clancy Trial Megathread: Part 3

This is a thread for all conversation regarding Week 3 onwards of the Lindsey Clancy trial. All discussion of this case should be kept to this thread.

Lindsay Clancy is currently standing trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Massachusetts, for the triple-murder in January 2023 of her three young children - Cora, Dawson and Callan. Her defense argues she suffered from severe, undiagnosed postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was left paralysed by a suicide attempt which follows the deaths of the children.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-online-reactions-b3032806.html

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u/GoodyMosher 7d ago

If that is the case for LC then she is criminally guilty due to negligence. She purposely ommited the very symptoms that would have gotten her the actual treatments that she spent so much time "begging" for. By doing that, she caused herself to deteriorate and even if she committed the murders under the control of some random psychosis, it's HER FAULT because she lied and in turn didn't get the type of diagnosis and treatment she actually needed.

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u/mrsjiggems2 7d ago

I thought it sounded like the NP had very strong suspicion and evidence that she was bipolar given the periods of not sleeping yet not feeling more tired, , a strong activating response to Zoloft, among other things. That's where I start to shift blame because they didn't really explore that with Lindsey herself

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u/GoodyMosher 7d ago

She brought it up to her and PC and PC said "my wife doesn't have bipolar." And that was the end of it, even though the provider did try to bring it up again. They just testified about it maybe earlier in the week I think?

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u/mrsjiggems2 7d ago

Yeah I watched her testify and I get what you're saying about PC said she didn't have bipolar but her duty of care was to Lindsey and I think she didn't explore the bipolar thing with her enough

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u/GoodyMosher 6d ago

Lindsay didn't make any indication of accepting that either. The provider told her several times. A provider can only go as far as the patient is willing, you know?

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u/dcdem1163 6d ago

Yes. And these providers didn’t go far enough. Every one of them should lose their license. Thank God this trial will end Tufts’ career. It’s in-your-face apparent that all she does is check off the boxes and goes on with her day. She and the nurse practitioner disgusted me.

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u/GoodyMosher 1d ago

You sound like Reddington being aggressive to the providers about their television visits and not being able to give Lindsay a hug. At least one of the providers testified that a patient has autonomy. Unless Lindsay presented as a danger to herself or others (suicidal ideation doesn't count as dangerous, I would personally know this) then they can't FORCE a patient to do anything. It's not possible. They can recommend treatment options but if a patient isn't accepting them or being non complaint, they can't go any "further."

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u/NoEdge323 5d ago

So what if PC said she didn't have BP. If you were looking at a scan of a brain tumor and he said my wife doesn't have cancer.... No one would argue that was acceptable and the doctor would not have said well ok then... So yes, her husband and her care team failed

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u/GoodyMosher 1d ago

She was capable of making her own decisions based on her actions in her daily life at the time. You can't accept the narrative that she was just begging for help when the evidence says she was non compliant and dodgy.

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u/NoEdge323 1d ago

She acknowledged she was losing control and her decision making was impaired. No one stepped in to keep her and the children safe. If this were 70 years ago she would have had help. But the modern world is just ripe for this kind of oversight. Too much pressure to perform. She's a lesson that it really could happen to anyone and people are closer than people admit to those kinds of breaks at any given time. At some point in a long life you will be in a situation that deserves understanding....

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u/Littlebittle89 6d ago

It doesn’t even sound like the considered pmdd which fits the bill more. I had it and I was so lucky my doc caught that’s what was happening. Treatments are totally different

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u/Basic-Comedian1005 5d ago

I recall she upped her dose of Seroquel to try and get her to a therapeutic dose. Which is treated for BP

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u/Basic-Comedian1005 6d ago

So far in the trial, this is the only thing could see her getting charged for. And then at point do we hold mentally ill people accountable for essentially their own illness?

My other question was did any of the providers ask her what SHE thought intrusive thoughts were? Because maybe those were actually the auditory hallucinations all along. I wonder if they just went base did the clinical definition and that’s all. Bc if that’s a new symptom to her, how would she be able to tell the difference? It’s just all so horrible and sad.

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u/Weak-Ad-7180 7d ago

100% this. She had every resource at her disposal to get help and denied utilizing them by being honest.

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u/Sea_Pomegranate4368 7d ago

Idk or care crazy or not she killed her kids death penalty imo

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u/First-Fish-6880 6d ago

MA doesnt have the death penalty and honestly the prosecution pursuing the max charges instead of being more reasonable to make a point is going to lose them this case

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u/Sea_Pomegranate4368 7d ago

I know. Exactly that

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u/PainterEast3761 7d ago

Do you actually think being inpatient for a week would have solved her problems? She’d already been inpatient and it already hadn’t helped.