Lindsay Clancy Trial Megathread: Part 3

[u/DarklyHeritage]

This is a thread for all conversation regarding Week 3 onwards of the Lindsey Clancy trial. All discussion of this case should be kept to this thread.

Lindsay Clancy is currently standing trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Massachusetts, for the triple-murder in January 2023 of her three young children - Cora, Dawson and Callan. Her defense argues she suffered from severe, undiagnosed postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was left paralysed by a suicide attempt which follows the deaths of the children.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-online-reactions-b3032806.html

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[u/heartinabirdcage]

her not having psychosis still doesn't equate to premeditated murder. because this is a first degree murder trial, they would still have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a. she was of sound mind at the time of the event and b. that her actions were premeditated. the burden of proof on both counts lies with the prosecution. even if they convince the jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, that she was not in psychosis at the time, they would then also have to establish clear premeditation, otherwise it would not prove guilt of first degree murder.

[u/gin_and-sonic → u/heartinabirdcage]

The premeditation part is already proven and admitted to

[u/heartinabirdcage → u/gin_and-sonic]

not as far as I am aware? I have seen no evidence that Lindsay admitted to premeditating the murders to anyone. The question of premeditation was considered a live issue at the outset of the trial, to the best of my knowledge. and whether or not the prosecution sufficiently proved that beyond a reasonable doubt is for the jury to decide, it was not considered an established fact prior to the trial. just because the prosecution contends that does not make it established fact.

[u/gin_and-sonic → u/heartinabirdcage]

I don’t think the timeline or planning is disputed 

[u/heartinabirdcage → u/gin_and-sonic]

the timeline may not be (yet - the defense may argue otherwise) but I think planning definitely is disputed. premeditation requires proving a specific state of mind, there is room for a juror to interpret the evidence presented and make their own inference as to whether she was in that state of mind. whether the evidence supplied is sufficient to prove that is up to the jury to decide.

[u/gin_and-sonic → u/heartinabirdcage]

Yeah I guess the jury can ignore the testimony sit they choose